x86_64 install

[Jay Scherrer]

I tried installing Fedora core 3 version x86_64 on a new 
Laptop: Asus Z8100 
with a mobile AMD 64 memory is 1 gig.

The install went ok but after logging in the system it seemed very 
slow. I hadn't yumed it yet untill I try the install for FC3 x386
The install of FC3 x386 went smooth and everything runs faster.
When I config cpan it detects my system as a dual proccesor.
Now I am thinking of yum updating FC3 x386 then ugrade to FC3 x86_64 
because during the initial install there were several files that 
remained compiled for the x386.

Has anyone else tried FC3 x86_64 or is this the wrong list?

Jay Scherrer

[Jonathan Berry]

On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 07:54:47 -0800, Jay Scherrer <jay(a)scherrer.com&gt; wrote:
>  I tried installing Fedora core 3 version x86_64 on a new
>  Laptop: Asus Z8100
>  with a mobile AMD 64 memory is 1 gig.
>  
>  The install went ok but after logging in the system it seemed very
>  slow. I hadn't yumed it yet untill I try the install for FC3 x386
>  The install of FC3 x386 went smooth and everything runs faster.
>  When I config cpan it detects my system as a dual proccesor.
>  Now I am thinking of yum updating FC3 x386 then ugrade to FC3 x86_64
>  because during the initial install there were several files that
>  remained compiled for the x386.
>  
>  Has anyone else tried FC3 x86_64 or is this the wrong list?
>  
>  Jay Scherrer 
Hi Jay,
I have installed FC3 x86_64 and so have several other people here. 
There is a dedicated AMD64 list which has a lot less traffic:
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/amd64-list
but you are welcome to ask questions here though that pertain to Fedora.
I don't think you can upgrade from the x86 version to the x86_64
version.  I could be wrong, but I don't see the point.  Did you
overwrite your initial x86_64 install?  If not, you should definitely
update.  How are you determining fast/slow?  I don't understand cpan
detecting a dual processor setup, because I very much doubt you have
two CPUs in your laptop.  The x86_64 version has compatability
libraries for running 32-bit programs on the 64-bit platform if that
is what you are talking about with the last sentence of your first
paragraph.
Have I answered any of your questions?  I wasn't able to get a good
grasp of what you were trying to find out.

Jonathan

[Robert L Cochran]

Jonathan Berry wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 07:54:47 -0800, Jay Scherrer
> <jay(a)scherrer.com&gt; wrote:
>   
>
> >I tried installing Fedora core 3 version x86_64 on a new
> >Laptop: Asus Z8100
> >with a mobile AMD 64 memory is 1 gig.
> >
> >The install went ok but after logging in the system it seemed very
> >slow. I hadn't yumed it yet untill I try the install for FC3 x386
> >The install of FC3 x386 went smooth and everything runs faster.
> >When I config cpan it detects my system as a dual proccesor.
> >Now I am thinking of yum updating FC3 x386 then ugrade to FC3 x86_64
> >because during the initial install there were several files that
> >remained compiled for the x386.
> >
> >Has anyone else tried FC3 x86_64 or is this the wrong list?
> >
> >Jay Scherrer
> >    
> >
>
> Hi Jay,
> I have installed FC3 x86_64 and so have several other people here. 
> There is a dedicated AMD64 list which has a lot less traffic:
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/amd64-list
> but you are welcome to ask questions here though that pertain to Fedora.
> I don't think you can upgrade from the x86 version to the x86_64
> version.  I could be wrong, but I don't see the point.  Did you
> overwrite your initial x86_64 install?  If not, you should definitely
> update.  How are you determining fast/slow?  I don't understand cpan
> detecting a dual processor setup, because I very much doubt you have
> two CPUs in your laptop.  The x86_64 version has compatability
> libraries for running 32-bit programs on the 64-bit platform if that
> is what you are talking about with the last sentence of your first
> paragraph.
> Have I answered any of your questions?  I wasn't able to get a good
> grasp of what you were trying to find out.
>
> Jonathan
>
>   
>  
I agree with Jonathan. I have the x86_64 version running on my Athlon 64 
3500+ machine. You should install the x86_64 version on your laptop as a 
fresh install, and not as an upgrade. Then update to the very latest 
packages using either Yum or up2date.

Bob Cochran

[Rick Stevens]

Robert L Cochran wrote:
>  Jonathan Berry wrote:
>  
> > On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 07:54:47 -0800, Jay Scherrer <jay(a)scherrer.com&gt; wrote:
> >  
> >
> >> I tried installing Fedora core 3 version x86_64 on a new
> >> Laptop: Asus Z8100
> >> with a mobile AMD 64 memory is 1 gig.
> >>
> >> The install went ok but after logging in the system it seemed very
> >> slow. I hadn't yumed it yet untill I try the install for FC3 x386
> >> The install of FC3 x386 went smooth and everything runs faster.
> >> When I config cpan it detects my system as a dual proccesor.
> >> Now I am thinking of yum updating FC3 x386 then ugrade to FC3 x86_64
> >> because during the initial install there were several files that
> >> remained compiled for the x386.
> >>
> >> Has anyone else tried FC3 x86_64 or is this the wrong list?
> >>
> >> Jay Scherrer
> >>   
> >
> >
> > Hi Jay,
> > I have installed FC3 x86_64 and so have several other people here. 
> > There is a dedicated AMD64 list which has a lot less traffic:
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/amd64-list
> > but you are welcome to ask questions here though that pertain to Fedora.
> > I don't think you can upgrade from the x86 version to the x86_64
> > version.  I could be wrong, but I don't see the point.  Did you
> > overwrite your initial x86_64 install?  If not, you should definitely
> > update.  How are you determining fast/slow?  I don't understand cpan
> > detecting a dual processor setup, because I very much doubt you have
> > two CPUs in your laptop.  The x86_64 version has compatability
> > libraries for running 32-bit programs on the 64-bit platform if that
> > is what you are talking about with the last sentence of your first
> > paragraph.
> > Have I answered any of your questions?  I wasn't able to get a good
> > grasp of what you were trying to find out.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >  
> >
>  I agree with Jonathan. I have the x86_64 version running on my Athlon 64 
>  3500+ machine. You should install the x86_64 version on your laptop as a 
>  fresh install, and not as an upgrade. Then update to the very latest 
>  packages using either Yum or up2date. 
I do believe you must do a fresh install to go to x86_64.  You've
already established a 32-bit environment, so any updates would be
32-bit.

A warning, however.  Many browser plugins (Flash, to name one) are not
available on x86_64.  I recommend you install the 32-bit
Firefox/Thunderbird/Mozilla so you can get the plugins.
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