Hello,
90% of the time when I open a pdf file from firefox the document does not appear in the right window (I mean not in the firefox window, but in side any window), ie that I do not have any control on the document position !! How can it be fixed ?
thank
On Thu, 21 May 2009, Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
90% of the time when I open a pdf file from firefox the document does not appear in the right window (I mean not in the firefox window, but in side any window), ie that I do not have any control on the document position !! How can it be fixed ?
In fact the problem comes from evince
On Thu, 21 May 2009, Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
90% of the time when I open a pdf file from firefox the document does not appear in the right window (I mean not in the firefox window, but in side any window), ie that I do not have any control on the document position !! How can it be fixed ?
In fact the problem comes from evince
My understanding is that evince does not operate as a plugin, as the Adobe Acrobat reader can/does (at least, under Windows).
If you can find a PDF reader that can act as a plugin to firefox, under Linux, you should be able to accomplish what you want to do.
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 08:36 -0400, Mike Burger wrote:
My understanding is that evince does not operate as a plugin
I'm fairly sure that I've had it do that annoying thing.
On Thursday 21 May 2009 13:36:10 Mike Burger wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2009, Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
90% of the time when I open a pdf file from firefox the document does not appear in the right window (I mean not in the firefox window, but in side any window), ie that I do not have any control on the document position !! How can it be fixed ?
In fact the problem comes from evince
My understanding is that evince does not operate as a plugin, as the Adobe Acrobat reader can/does (at least, under Windows).
If you can find a PDF reader that can act as a plugin to firefox, under Linux, you should be able to accomplish what you want to do.
Okular is a multi-format reader and works as a plugin. It is a kde application, so will require some libraries.
Anne
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 3:56 AM, Patrick Dupre pd520@york.ac.uk wrote:
Hello,
90% of the time when I open a pdf file from firefox the document does not appear in the right window (I mean not in the firefox window, but in side any window), ie that I do not have any control on the document position !! How can it be fixed ?
thank
Sorry to jump in so late - I would suspect the evince simply starts in full screen or presentation mode. Pressing Escape should bring it back to standard within-window mode.
HTH
Peter
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 19:00 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Thursday 21 May 2009 13:36:10 Mike Burger wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2009, Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
90% of the time when I open a pdf file from firefox the document does not appear in the right window (I mean not in the firefox window, but in side any window), ie that I do not have any control on the document position !! How can it be fixed ?
In fact the problem comes from evince
My understanding is that evince does not operate as a plugin, as the Adobe Acrobat reader can/does (at least, under Windows).
If you can find a PDF reader that can act as a plugin to firefox, under Linux, you should be able to accomplish what you want to do.
Okular is a multi-format reader and works as a plugin. It is a kde application, so will require some libraries.
I use Okular, but it doesn't embed the doc in a FF tab. It opens a new tab (my FF is set to open new pages in a separate tab) and then displays the doc in its own window outside FF. The new tab is empty and useless. I don't know if any of this is configurable.
poc
Patrick Dupre wrote:
90% of the time when I open a pdf file from firefox the document
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How can it be fixed ?
have you tried any add-ons/extensions/plugins for firefox?
to see what is available, check;
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search?q=pdf&cat=all
hth.
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 13:38 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 19:00 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Thursday 21 May 2009 13:36:10 Mike Burger wrote:
On Thu, 21 May 2009, Patrick Dupre wrote:
Hello,
90% of the time when I open a pdf file from firefox the document does not appear in the right window (I mean not in the firefox window, but in side any window), ie that I do not have any control on the document position !! How can it be fixed ?
In fact the problem comes from evince
My understanding is that evince does not operate as a plugin, as the Adobe Acrobat reader can/does (at least, under Windows).
If you can find a PDF reader that can act as a plugin to firefox, under Linux, you should be able to accomplish what you want to do.
Okular is a multi-format reader and works as a plugin. It is a kde application, so will require some libraries.
I use Okular, but it doesn't embed the doc in a FF tab. It opens a new tab (my FF is set to open new pages in a separate tab) and then displays the doc in its own window outside FF. The new tab is empty and useless. I don't know if any of this is configurable.
---- My experience with Adobe_Reader_enu suggests that this is preferred behavior because it operates in its own memory space instead of within Firefox which has been problematic. I have been known to install Adobe_Reader and remove the FF plugin just to get that behavior.
Craig
Anne Wilson wrote:
Okular is a multi-format reader and works as a plugin.
No. It works as a KPart in Konqueror, but not as a Firefox plugin. You may be using mozplugger which forces standalone apps to embed inside Firefox with ugly XEmbed hacks, that should really work for any PDF viewer.
Kevin Kofler
Hi Kevin,
I do have installed: mozplugger-1.10.1-3.fc10.i386 !!
Anne Wilson wrote:
Okular is a multi-format reader and works as a plugin.
No. It works as a KPart in Konqueror, but not as a Firefox plugin. You may be using mozplugger which forces standalone apps to embed inside Firefox with ugly XEmbed hacks, that should really work for any PDF viewer.
Kevin Kofler
On Friday 22 May 2009 01:55:50 Kevin Kofler wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
Okular is a multi-format reader and works as a plugin.
No. It works as a KPart in Konqueror, but not as a Firefox plugin. You may be using mozplugger which forces standalone apps to embed inside Firefox with ugly XEmbed hacks, that should really work for any PDF viewer.
Apologies - memory failure again.
Anne
| From: Patrick Dupre pd520@york.ac.uk
| 90% of the time when I open a pdf file from firefox the document | does not appear in the right window (I mean not in the firefox window, but | in side any window), ie that I do not have any control | on the document position !! | How can it be fixed ?
I find it too. This is very annoying.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=456475
Here's what I think is going on (copied from a posting I made to another list).
If you type "evince x.pdf" into a shell, it does what I'd expect: display the file and, when the user dismisses the display, the evince program terminates and the next shell prompt appears.
Do the same again, but don't stop the display. In another shell, evince something else. That second evince command will exit immediately, after passing the request to the first evince. The second file will be displayed but the second command will have quit early.
Another surprise: if the first file display is dismissed, one would expect the first evince command to terminate. It does not do so until all evince windows (including those for other commands) are dismissed.
These are manifestations of an optimization. Optimizations should not produce surprising and undocumented effects but this one does.
Why do I know this? Because Firefox really screws up .pdf displays for me. If I already have evince running for some reason (say, because firefox is showing me another .pdf) and I try to get firefox to show me a .pdf, it will create an undecorated window with the display. This window is out of control: I cannot move it or close it (except by using the File drop down menu which sometimes is off-screen).
evince's behaviour is confusing mozplugger. More magic. https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=20686
(Oh, Firefox isn't innocent: it has a similar optimziation which even reaches across a networked X connection to use a local running firefox even if the command was issued on the far side. Result: files local to the other machine cannot be viewed. At least firefox has a flag to suppress this.)
This evince optimization has eaten several hours of my time. All that diagnosing time has not actually yielded a technique to fix the problem.
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