Nagios-plugins packaging change broke my Nagios (plugins moved out of "nagios-plugins" to "nagios-plugins-all")

[Aleksey Tsalolikhin]

Wow.  When I ran "yum update" recently on my Nagios server, it broke
our Nagios, as nagios plugins used to be in "nagios-plugins" package
but now it's just a stub, and the nagios plugins are packaged individually.

I fixed it with installing "nagios-plugins-all".

I am sure there was a reason for the packaging change but it was not
implemented gracefully...  Wouldn't it have been better to deprecate the
nagios-plugins package and stop updating it rather than replacing it
with a stub that effectively broke a working Nagios installation?

If this is not the right forum, please point me in the right direction.

Thanks!
Aleksey

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:17:16 -0700
Aleksey Tsalolikhin  wrote:
> Wow.  When I ran "yum update" recently on my Nagios server, it broke
> our Nagios, as nagios plugins used to be in "nagios-plugins" package
> but now it's just a stub, and the nagios plugins are packaged
> individually.
>
> I fixed it with installing "nagios-plugins-all".
>
> I am sure there was a reason for the packaging change but it was not
> implemented gracefully...  Wouldn't it have been better to deprecate
> the nagios-plugins package and stop updating it rather than replacing
> it with a stub that effectively broke a working Nagios installation?

It's been packaged that way in Fedora for as long as I can recall.

What version of Fedora? What version of nagios were you running before? 
(You can check /var/log/rpmpkgs from the previous day).

Perhaps it was a 3rd party nagios version?

kevin

[Aleksey Tsalolikhin]

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:17:16 -0700
> Aleksey Tsalolikhin  wrote:
> > Wow.  When I ran "yum update" recently on my Nagios server, it broke
> > our Nagios, as nagios plugins used to be in "nagios-plugins" package
> > but now it's just a stub, and the nagios plugins are packaged
> > individually.
> >
> > I fixed it with installing "nagios-plugins-all".
> >
> > I am sure there was a reason for the packaging change but it was not
> > implemented gracefully...  Wouldn't it have been better to deprecate
> > the nagios-plugins package and stop updating it rather than replacing
> > it with a stub that effectively broke a working Nagios installation?
>
> It's been packaged that way in Fedora for as long as I can recall.
>
> What version of Fedora? What version of nagios were you running before?
> (You can check /var/log/rpmpkgs from the previous day).
>
> Perhaps it was a 3rd party nagios version?
>
> kevin

Hi, Kevin.

The source of my nagios-plugins package is the EPEL repository from
the Fedora Project.   I installed Nagios about a year and a half ago.

Thanks,
Aleksey

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:01:32 -0700
Aleksey Tsalolikhin  wrote:
> Hi, Kevin.
>
> The source of my nagios-plugins package is the EPEL repository from
> the Fedora Project.   I installed Nagios about a year and a half ago.

You probibly want the 'epel-devel' list then.

EPEL is in general much more conservative than Fedora when it comes to
changes. nagios in EPEL has been packaged the same way for many years.

I suspect you had a version from another repository (dag? atrpms?
rpmforge?) installed that used a different setup, and only recently the
epel version passed that version so it updated.
> Thanks,
> Aleksey

kevin

[Aleksey Tsalolikhin]

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:01:32 -0700
> Aleksey Tsalolikhin  wrote:
> > The source of my nagios-plugins package is the EPEL repository from
> > the Fedora Project.   I installed Nagios about a year and a half ago.
>
> You probibly want the 'epel-devel' list then.

Thank you!
> EPEL is in general much more conservative than Fedora when it comes to
> changes. nagios in EPEL has been packaged the same way for many years.
>
> I suspect you had a version from another repository (dag? atrpms?
> rpmforge?) installed that used a different setup, and only recently the
> epel version passed that version so it updated.

That is quite possible.

When you say the epel version "passed" that version, are you referring
to relative
version numbers on the "nagios-plugins" package?

Thanks, Kevin!  I appreciate the education.

Best,
Aleksey

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 14:38:44 -0700
Aleksey Tsalolikhin  wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> > I suspect you had a version from another repository (dag? atrpms?
> > rpmforge?) installed that used a different setup, and only recently
> > the epel version passed that version so it updated.
>
> That is quite possible.
>
> When you say the epel version "passed" that version, are you referring
> to relative
> version numbers on the "nagios-plugins" package?

Yes. Version 1.4.14 just came out, so if the other repo still had
1.4.13, the epel version would have been newer and 'upgraded' it.

kevin