7:25 p.m.
As a longtime gnome user, I've been disappointed in finding my hardware
simply can't handle gnome3 of FC15 and have switched to KDE. I've
connected to the Internet and now want to enter the names of IP
addresses of my other boxes in /etc/hosts. Something that used to be
simple -- i.e. open Konsole, then as superuser, kwrite /etc/hosts & --
doesn't work and instead delivers error messages that make no sense to
me, let alone give me anything to work with.
Clearly there must be an easier way to do this but, so far at least,
Google has not been my friend. One "howto" suggested using the "Run
command..." from the K menu and then completing the "run as different
user" section of the "Options" menu, but the "Options" menu
doesn't
exist in this version of KDE.
Any suggestions would be most appreciated so I can continue with this
upgrade. I don't mind using Linux being an ongoing adventure, but this
is a bit much.
Jerry
1:01 a.m.
On 09/12/2011 10:47 PM, Peter Gueckel wrote:
nearly unusable editors like vi or nano and the like.
I, OTOH, find nano exceptionally easy to use because the most common
commands are listed at the bottom of the screen, including ^G to get the
rest of them. Of course, I go back to when the CLI was all there was,
so I have no problems with an editor that isn't GUI-dependent.
12:47 a.m.
Gerhard Magnus wrote:
open Konsole, then as superuser, kwrite /etc/hosts & --
I haven't tried all of that, but I use sudo kwrite /etc/somefile all the time
when I want to do some configuration. There are a lot of messages about
connecting to deprecated signal, application may misbehave, but after a few
oments kwrite opens up and I can edit the file as root and don't need to bother
with nearly unusable editors like vi or nano and the like.
7:39 p.m.
On 09/12/2011 05:32 PM, Elliott Chapin wrote:
vi should do it - elementary use is actually easy. Other editors are
blocked in many environments.
Or, for those of us who neither know nor want to learn its arcane,
obfuscated syntax, you can use nano. All you need to know is that, as
used to be customary, it uses ^G for Control-G and so on, and Bob's your
uncle.
1:16 a.m.
On 13/09/11 01:25, Gerhard Magnus wrote:
As a longtime gnome user, I've been disappointed in finding my
hardware
simply can't handle gnome3 of FC15 and have switched to KDE. I've
connected to the Internet and now want to enter the names of IP
addresses of my other boxes in /etc/hosts. Something that used to be
simple -- i.e. open Konsole, then as superuser, kwrite /etc/hosts & --
doesn't work and instead delivers error messages that make no sense to
me, let alone give me anything to work with.
Clearly there must be an easier way to do this but, so far at least,
Google has not been my friend. One "howto" suggested using the "Run
command..." from the K menu and then completing the "run as different
user" section of the "Options" menu, but the "Options" menu
doesn't
exist in this version of KDE.
Any suggestions would be most appreciated so I can continue with this
upgrade. I don't mind using Linux being an ongoing adventure, but this
is a bit much.
Jerry
Jerry,
To run a GUI application as the root user with KDE you need to enter
"kdesu kwrite", either from a konsole or krunner. You will then be
required to enter the root password before kwrite will start as a root
application.
Alt-F2 should bring up krunner for you. It can also provide you with
system activity for you, and from there send signals to running processes.
As with most things, it's easy when you know the tricks. I hope these
teething troubles don't discourage you.
HTH
cpp4ever
4:09 p.m.
Am 13.09.2011 22:26, schrieb Aaron Konstam:
> To run a GUI application as the root user with KDE you need to
enter
> "kdesu kwrite", either from a konsole or krunner. You will then be
> required to enter the root password before kwrite will start as a root
> application.
> Alt-F2 should bring up krunner for you. It can also provide you with
> system activity for you, and from there send signals to running processes.
> As with most things, it's easy when you know the tricks. I hope these
> teething troubles don't discourage you.
>
> HTH
>
> cpp4ever
Ok, I'll bite. What is kdesu and why does it have to run in this
context? Sounds screwy to me
it is a graphical "su"
why you need something as root does nobody know except you
and would you explain us what is "screwy"?
5:38 p.m.
On 09/16/2011 04:42 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
He should be able to do that using sudo or by becoming root through
su -
Evidently that latter method does not work in KDE, which makes no sense
to me.
The later method works perfectly well for me in KDE....and always has.
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12:37 p.m.
Am 15.09.2011 19:32, schrieb Joe Zeff:
On 09/13/2011 02:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> why you need something as root does nobody know except you
> and would you explain us what is "screwy"?
I'm guessing that he wants to use a GUI editor to tweak a file that
requires root access
* sftp://root@localhost/
* X-Forwarding: ssh -X root@localhost
* su -c "kate /path/"
yes this works really and i am using this since many years
10:41 p.m.
On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 15:26 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
Ok, I'll bite. What is kdesu and why does it have to run in this
context? Sounds screwy to me.
A "su" function for "kde"... As to why is something special needed,
rather than just "su -" in a terminal, the the program name, as other
desktops do? I don't know, maybe there's something special about KDE
not allowing GUI operations as root.
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2.6.30.10-105.2.23.fc11.i586
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3:42 p.m.
On Thu, 2011-09-15 at 10:32 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 09/13/2011 02:09 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> why you need something as root does nobody know except you
> and would you explain us what is "screwy"?
I'm guessing that he wants to use a GUI editor to tweak a file that
requires root access.
He should be able to do that using sudo or by becoming root through su -
Evidently that latter method does not work in KDE, which makes no sense
to me.
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8:09 a.m.
On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 23:09 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 13.09.2011 22:26, schrieb Aaron Konstam:
>> To run a GUI application as the root user with KDE you need to enter
>> "kdesu kwrite", either from a konsole or krunner. You will then be
>> required to enter the root password before kwrite will start as a root
>> application.
>> Alt-F2 should bring up krunner for you. It can also provide you with
>> system activity for you, and from there send signals to running processes.
>> As with most things, it's easy when you know the tricks. I hope these
>> teething troubles don't discourage you.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> cpp4ever
>
> Ok, I'll bite. What is kdesu and why does it have to run in this
> context? Sounds screwy to me
it is a graphical "su"
why you need something as root does nobody know except you
and would you explain us what is "screwy"?
The OP wanted to change his hosts file and couldn't as root without
using kdesu using a graphical editor.
I have been using Unix and Linux of various manufacturers for ovwer 20
years and have never heard of a Unix like system that has to have a
special su for its desktop manager. So it sounds screwy to me.
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10:57 p.m.
On 09/15/2011 11:41 AM, Tim wrote:
On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 15:26 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> Ok, I'll bite. What is kdesu and why does it have to run in this
> context? Sounds screwy to me.
A "su" function for "kde"... As to why is something special needed,
rather than just "su -" in a terminal, the the program name, as other
desktops do? I don't know, maybe there's something special about KDE
not allowing GUI operations as root.
I'm a long time KDE user and I've never used kdesu.
I either run "su -" to drop me into a shell with root privileges or
"sudo" to run a single command.
So many ways to do the same thing..... :-)
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speak it to? -- Clarence Darrow
3:26 p.m.
On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 07:16 +0100, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote:
On 13/09/11 01:25, Gerhard Magnus wrote:
> As a longtime gnome user, I've been disappointed in finding my hardware
> simply can't handle gnome3 of FC15 and have switched to KDE. I've
> connected to the Internet and now want to enter the names of IP
> addresses of my other boxes in /etc/hosts. Something that used to be
> simple -- i.e. open Konsole, then as superuser, kwrite /etc/hosts & --
> doesn't work and instead delivers error messages that make no sense to
> me, let alone give me anything to work with.
>
> Clearly there must be an easier way to do this but, so far at least,
> Google has not been my friend. One "howto" suggested using the "Run
> command..." from the K menu and then completing the "run as different
> user" section of the "Options" menu, but the "Options" menu
doesn't
> exist in this version of KDE.
>
> Any suggestions would be most appreciated so I can continue with this
> upgrade. I don't mind using Linux being an ongoing adventure, but this
> is a bit much.
>
> Jerry
>
Jerry,
To run a GUI application as the root user with KDE you need to enter
"kdesu kwrite", either from a konsole or krunner. You will then be
required to enter the root password before kwrite will start as a root
application.
Alt-F2 should bring up krunner for you. It can also provide you with
system activity for you, and from there send signals to running processes.
As with most things, it's easy when you know the tricks. I hope these
teething troubles don't discourage you.
HTH
cpp4ever
Ok, I'll bite. What is kdesu and why does it have to run in this
context? Sounds screwy to me.
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8:59 a.m.
New subject: running programs as root in KDE: Solved
On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 11:39 +0530, Digvijay Patankar wrote:
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 5:55 AM, Gerhard Magnus
<magnus(a)agora.rdrop.com> wrote:
Something that used to be
simple -- i.e. open Konsole, then as superuser,
kwrite /etc/hosts & --
doesn't work and instead delivers error messages that make no
sense to
me, let alone give me anything to work with.
Have you tried
<alt> + F2 > kdesu kwrite <path/to/file> ?
I think this will work for you.
Thanks for all the help -- this was most like what this former gnome
user has been doing before. (kdesu kwrite <path/to/file> also works from
the terminal command line.)
1:09 a.m.
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 5:55 AM, Gerhard Magnus <magnus(a)agora.rdrop.com>wrote:
Something that used to be
simple -- i.e. open Konsole, then as superuser, kwrite /etc/hosts & --
doesn't work and instead delivers error messages that make no sense to
me, let alone give me anything to work with.
Have you tried
<alt> + F2 > kdesu kwrite <path/to/file> ?
I think this will work for you.
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Senior Research Fellow,*
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Indian Institute of Science,
Bangalore - 560012*
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7:32 p.m.
On 09/12/2011 08:25 PM, Gerhard Magnus wrote:
As a longtime gnome user, I've been disappointed in finding my
hardware
simply can't handle gnome3 of FC15 and have switched to KDE. I've
connected to the Internet and now want to enter the names of IP
addresses of my other boxes in /etc/hosts. Something that used to be
simple -- i.e. open Konsole, then as superuser, kwrite /etc/hosts& --
doesn't work and instead delivers error messages that make no sense to
me, let alone give me anything to work with.
Clearly there must be an easier way to do this but, so far at least,
Google has not been my friend. One "howto" suggested using the "Run
command..." from the K menu and then completing the "run as different
user" section of the "Options" menu, but the "Options" menu
doesn't
exist in this version of KDE.
Any suggestions would be most appreciated so I can continue with this
upgrade. I don't mind using Linux being an ongoing adventure, but this
is a bit much.
Jerry
vi should do it - elementary use is actually easy. Other editors are
blocked in many environments.
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