Wireless, Broadcom

[Vincent]

12. Re: Wireless, Broadcom (Timothy Murphy)
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:24:08 +0100
> From: Timothy Murphy 
> Subject: Re: Wireless, Broadcom
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> Vincent Onelli wrote:
> > [vinnyo@localhost ~]$ sudo apt-get install nddiswrapper-utils ndisgtk
> > [sudo] password for vinnyo: (here I entered my root PW)
> > Sorry, try again.
> > [sudo] password for vinnyo: (here I entered my user PW)
> > vinnyo is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
> >
> > I could not even get start, What am I doing wrong?
>
> I think you are asking how to get on the sudoer list?
>
> The answer to that is to give the command "visudo" as root.
> Personally, I then uncomment the "wheel without password" line,
> and then run "vigr" and "vigr -s" to add myself
> to the wheel group.
> I don't know if that is the official route.

I am still try to learn Linux, so most of time I am lost like in this
situation. While I was waiting for the answer I went to
http://dnmouse.org/autoinstall.html I selected sudo with password it
downloaded the autonine file running this file assigned the password
automatically. Now when I repeat the command "sudo apt-get install
ndiswrapper-common nddiswrapper-utils ndisgtk" it accept the password
but it cannot find the "apt-get" is this a file that I need to get some
where?
Thank you 
Vinny
> -- 
> Timothy Murphy  
> e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
> tel: [phone]
> s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
>
> End of fedora-list Digest, Vol 56, Issue 33

[Jeroen de Haas]

On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 16:59 -0400, Vincent Onelli wrote:
> Re: Wireless, Broadcom (Timothy Murphy)
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:24:08 +0100
> > From: Timothy Murphy 
> > Subject: Re: Wireless, Broadcom
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Message-ID: 
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Vincent Onelli wrote:
> > > [vinnyo@localhost ~]$ sudo apt-get install nddiswrapper-utils ndisgtk
> > > [sudo] password for vinnyo: (here I entered my root PW)
> > > Sorry, try again.
> > > [sudo] password for vinnyo: (here I entered my user PW)
> > > vinnyo is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
> > >
> > > I could not even get start, What am I doing wrong?
> >
> > I think you are asking how to get on the sudoer list?
> >
> > The answer to that is to give the command "visudo" as root.
> > Personally, I then uncomment the "wheel without password" line,
> > and then run "vigr" and "vigr -s" to add myself
> > to the wheel group.
> > I don't know if that is the official route.
>
> I am still try to learn Linux, so most of time I am lost like in this
> situation. While I was waiting for the answer I went to
> http://dnmouse.org/autoinstall.html I selected sudo with password it
> downloaded the autonine file running this file assigned the password
> automatically. Now when I repeat the command "sudo apt-get install
> ndiswrapper-common nddiswrapper-utils ndisgtk" it accept the password
> but it cannot find the "apt-get" is this a file that I need to get some
> where?
> Thank you 
> Vinny
> > -- 
> > Timothy Murphy

Hello Vinny,

Fedora uses yum instead of apt-get to install applications. The system
cannot find "apt-get" because the program just isn't there. Furthermore,
ndiswrapper is not included in the official fedora repositories.

There is a tutorial on setting up ndiswrapper on Fedora:
http://fedoramobile.org/fc-wireless/ndis-yum-livna . This text assumes
you have configured yum to use the livna repository (which does contain
the ndiswrapper packages) as explained in
http://fedoramobile.org/solved/post-install-solutions/yum-config/ .

I hope this will be enough to get you started.

Good luck,

Jeroen

[Bill Davidsen]

Jeroen de Haas wrote:
> There is a tutorial on setting up ndiswrapper on Fedora:
> http://fedoramobile.org/fc-wireless/ndis-yum-livna . This text assumes
> you have configured yum to use the livna repository (which does contain
> the ndiswrapper packages) as explained in
> http://fedoramobile.org/solved/post-install-solutions/yum-config/ .

I have very mixed feelings about using Windows drivers for much of anything, 
perhaps too many urban legends about an IRQ coming in while the driver is 
running in a privileged mode. There are new Broadcom drivers coming in the 
future, but at the rate I see progress that might be after the stock market gets 
back to 14000. :-(

An alternate solution, which I'm using, is to buy a USB wireless modem and use 
that. Clearly not the optimal solution, but one which avoids the issues with 
running NDIS drivers.

Consider this an alternate solution, not a statement that NDIS is evil. Well, 
Fedora doesn't include it for various reasons, but many people disagree.

[Nifty Fedora Mitch]

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 02:52:30PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Jeroen de Haas wrote:
> > There is a tutorial on setting up ndiswrapper on Fedora:
> > http://fedoramobile.org/fc-wireless/ndis-yum-livna . This text assumes
> > you have configured yum to use the livna repository (which does contain
> > the ndiswrapper packages) as explained in
> > http://fedoramobile.org/solved/post-install-solutions/yum-config/ .
>
> I have very mixed feelings about using Windows drivers for much of 
> anything, perhaps too many urban legends about an IRQ coming in while the 
> driver is running in a privileged mode. There are new Broadcom drivers 
> coming in the future, but at the rate I see progress that might be after 
> the stock market gets back to 14000. :-(
>
> An alternate solution, which I'm using, is to buy a USB wireless modem 
> and use that. Clearly not the optimal solution, but one which avoids the 
> issues with running NDIS drivers.

Which USB modem do you like?

I have had mixed results and some still require ndiswrapper or other tricks.

[Bill Davidsen]

Nifty Fedora Mitch wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 02:52:30PM -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > Jeroen de Haas wrote:
> > > There is a tutorial on setting up ndiswrapper on Fedora:
> > > http://fedoramobile.org/fc-wireless/ndis-yum-livna . This text assumes
> > > you have configured yum to use the livna repository (which does contain
> > > the ndiswrapper packages) as explained in
> > > http://fedoramobile.org/solved/post-install-solutions/yum-config/ .
> >
> > I have very mixed feelings about using Windows drivers for much of 
> > anything, perhaps too many urban legends about an IRQ coming in while the 
> > driver is running in a privileged mode. There are new Broadcom drivers 
> > coming in the future, but at the rate I see progress that might be after 
> > the stock market gets back to 14000. :-(
> >
> > An alternate solution, which I'm using, is to buy a USB wireless modem 
> > and use that. Clearly not the optimal solution, but one which avoids the 
> > issues with running NDIS drivers.
>
> Which USB modem do you like?
>
> I have had mixed results and some still require ndiswrapper or other tricks.

Sorry for the slow reply, I use a Linksys WUSB54C (that's all the info in lsusb, 
nothing on the invoice, package nong recycled). If I were using ndiswrapper I 
could use the built-in Broadcom b4310, but I'd rather not, at least for now.

[Rick Bilonick]

On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 14:52 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> Jeroen de Haas wrote:
> > There is a tutorial on setting up ndiswrapper on Fedora:
> > http://fedoramobile.org/fc-wireless/ndis-yum-livna . This text assumes
> > you have configured yum to use the livna repository (which does contain
> > the ndiswrapper packages) as explained in
> > http://fedoramobile.org/solved/post-install-solutions/yum-config/ .
>
> I have very mixed feelings about using Windows drivers for much of anything, 
> perhaps too many urban legends about an IRQ coming in while the driver is 
> running in a privileged mode. There are new Broadcom drivers coming in the 
> future, but at the rate I see progress that might be after the stock market gets 
> back to 14000. :-(
>
> An alternate solution, which I'm using, is to buy a USB wireless modem and use 
> that. Clearly not the optimal solution, but one which avoids the issues with 
> running NDIS drivers.
>
> Consider this an alternate solution, not a statement that NDIS is evil. Well, 
> Fedora doesn't include it for various reasons, but many people disagree.
>
> -- 
> Bill Davidsen 
>    "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
> the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot

You might check the Broadcom website. They have released a native Linux
driver that works for many of their cards. I used it in Ubuntu 8.04 and
it works perfectly with the 4312 card in my HP 2133 mini-notebook. You
will have to determine whether it will work with Fedora (but I don't see
why it wouldn't).

Rick B.

P.S. If I could get Fedora 9 work with the HP 2133, I would likely still
be using Fedora on it. It worked OK with Fedora 8 - but Fedora 9 seems
to break everything and especially the LCD display - just CANNOT get a
useable LCD display (but displays just fine on the external VGA
monitor).