why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my via my subscription and sometimes i do not?
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:03:01 +0000 g geleem@bellsouth.net wrote:
why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my via my subscription and sometimes i do not?
You may have subscribed under different email addresses?
On 01/13/2013 10:05 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:03:01 +0000 g geleem@bellsouth.net wrote:
why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my via my subscription and sometimes i do not?
You may have subscribed under different email addresses?
no. same subscription.
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:03:01 +0000 g wrote:
why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my via my subscription and sometimes i do not?
I don't know if any other mail services operate the same as gmail, but with gmail the only way I can see my own messages on the list is to post with one gmail address (which I tell the mailing list to not send mail to) and read with a different address. Gmail apparently thinks that if I sent it, I can't need a copy back to verify it got through :-(.
On Sun, 2013-01-13 at 08:44 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:03:01 +0000 g wrote:
why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my via my subscription and sometimes i do not?
I don't know if any other mail services operate the same as gmail, but with gmail the only way I can see my own messages on the list is to post with one gmail address (which I tell the mailing list to not send mail to) and read with a different address. Gmail apparently thinks that if I sent it, I can't need a copy back to verify it got through :-(.
Gmail is slightly weird in several respects, since it's basically a front-end to a database. In fact you may notice that off-list replies to a poster are sorted as part of the same conversation as the list replies. This is actually useful IMHO but it's not conventional.
In any case, the OP doesn't appear to be using Gmail so the question is moot.
poc
On 01/13/2013 08:44 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:03:01 +0000 g wrote:
why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my via my subscription and sometimes i do not?
I don't know if any other mail services operate the same as gmail, but with gmail the only way I can see my own messages on the list is to post with one gmail address (which I tell the mailing list to not send mail to) and read with a different address. Gmail apparently thinks that if I sent it, I can't need a copy back to verify it got through :-(.
If you have a spam folder maybe you should look there. My AOL mail always puts my copy there along with many of the posts that others submit. I use Thunderbird to manage my email so I just select it all and move it back into the inbox where my mail filters distribute it properly.
On 01/13/2013 09:02 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote:
On 01/13/2013 08:44 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:03:01 +0000 g wrote:
why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my via my subscription and sometimes i do not?
I don't know if any other mail services operate the same as gmail, but with gmail the only way I can see my own messages on the list is to post with one gmail address (which I tell the mailing list to not send mail to) and read with a different address. Gmail apparently thinks that if I sent it, I can't need a copy back to verify it got through :-(.
If you have a spam folder maybe you should look there. My AOL mail always puts my copy there along with many of the posts that others submit. I use Thunderbird to manage my email so I just select it all and move it back into the inbox where my mail filters distribute it properly.
I too use Thunderbird for all my accounts (I have lots!) I have three sub-folders under my GMail "Inbox" that I filter for CEntOS.....Fedora....and PCLinux mailing lists. I have no problem seeing anything I've sent/received from any of my e-mail accounts...
EGO II
Allegedly, on or about 13 January 2013, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
What's a tsl?
My guess, "Technical Support List," but I hate having to guess at abbreviations and jargon.
poc
What's a poc? ;-)
On 01/13/2013 01:59 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: <>
Gmail is slightly weird in several respects, since it's basically a
that it is and why i do not use my gmail accounts for regular posting to this tsl.
In any case, the OP doesn't appear to be using Gmail so the question is moot.
i did not see a solution to my question, so the post is moot.
On 01/13/2013 02:49 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: <>
I too use Thunderbird for all my accounts (I have lots!) I have three sub-folders under my GMail "Inbox" that I filter for CEntOS.....Fedora....and PCLinux mailing lists. I have no problem seeing anything I've sent/received from any of my e-mail accounts...
the fact that you have lots of accounts has nothing to do with providing a solution to problem i am having.
and, if you note my email address, you will see that i am not posting in regard to gmail.
also, good luck with subfolders under inbox.
thank you.
On 01/13/2013 03:22 PM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 13 January 2013, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
What's a tsl?
My guess, "Technical Support List," but I hate having to guess at abbreviations and jargon.
was that a guess or actually a memory recall? ;)
What's a poc? ;-)
power of computers? :)
On 01/13/2013 03:26 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
On 01/13/2013 04:03 AM, g wrote:
why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my via my subscription and sometimes i do not?
Gmail puts your message into the sent mail folder because it's from you. It's a quirk of gmail.
i am aware of what gmail does. i am not concerned with how/what gmail does as i am not using gmail to post to or receive this tsl.
On Mon, 2013-01-14 at 01:52 +1030, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 13 January 2013, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
What's a tsl?
My guess, "Technical Support List," but I hate having to guess at abbreviations and jargon.
My point exactly, especially as the OP seems to have misplaced his Shift key.
poc
What's a poc? ;-)
Part of a sig.
poc
On Sun, 2013-01-13 at 20:17 +0000, g wrote:
On 01/13/2013 03:22 PM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 13 January 2013, Patrick O'Callaghan sent:
What's a tsl?
My guess, "Technical Support List," but I hate having to guess at abbreviations and jargon.
was that a guess or actually a memory recall? ;)
What's a poc? ;-)
power of computers? :)
Also Point Of Contact, but I digress ...
poc
On 13/01/13 15:14, g wrote:
also, good luck with subfolders under inbox.
thank you.
Is there some reason not to do that? I have sub-sub folders and they seem to work, stuff get filtered into the right directory most of the time, only pop3, don't want imap, occasionally it fails and goes to junk but as infrequently as that happens I put up with it.
On 01/13/2013 08:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 13.01.2013 21:14, schrieb g:
also, good luck with subfolders under inbox
who needs luck there? "mail.check_all_imap_folders_for_new" is your friend
i am aware of that, but is not what i was writing about.
Am 13.01.2013 22:15, schrieb g:
On 01/13/2013 08:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 13.01.2013 21:14, schrieb g:
also, good luck with subfolders under inbox
who needs luck there? "mail.check_all_imap_folders_for_new" is your friend
i am aware of that, but is not what i was writing about
so what is your problem with subfolders under inbox?
if there is no one (and there is no one) waht did you try to tell us?
Tim:
My guess, "Technical Support List," but I hate having to guess at abbreviations and jargon.
g:
was that a guess or actually a memory recall? ;)
Educated guess. It seemed the likely answer, and I'm used to unexplained acronyms all over the place in my fields of work (electronics and video production). But every now and them something stumps me.
Since we're already off topic, and there's probably an old radio engineer on this list, I'll put forward my own OT, hopefully without upsetting anybody:
I'm still stumped by three acronyms found on an old radio mixing desk, though. NOL, ROL, and POL found on the attenuator pad on the meter bridge. NOL set the meter with the standard attenuation, 0VU equals +8dBm (yes, it's that old that it's +8 and genuinely uses dBm). ROL attenuates it by 8dB, so 0VU is at +16dBM. POL attenuates it by 12dB, for 0VU at +20dBm. I can only guess at that the abbreviations might stand for, as the service manual makes no mention of them. NOL may be normal output level, ROL could be reserve output level, and POL peak output levels. But I don't really know. Nor do I know what maximum transmission levels the station would have set back in the late 1960s, or early 1970s, in Australia, to confirm it that way, either.
On 01/13/2013 08:58 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
On 13/01/13 15:14, g wrote:
also, good luck with subfolders under inbox.
thank you.
Is there some reason not to do that?
yes.
because what can happen is;
}> I have sub-sub folders and they }> *seem* to work, stuff get filtered into the right directory *most* of }> the time, only pop3, don't want imap, occasionally it fails and goes }> to *junk* but as *infrequently* as that happens I put up with it.
Tim:
What's a poc? ;-)
Patrick O'Callaghan:
Part of a sig.
But that would be spelt POAS... ;-)
Speaking of TLAs, it always makes me smirk when I see someone refer to a computerised cash register as a POS (point of sales) device. Considering that the POS is often based on DOS or Windows, the other common usage of POS springs to mind, every time. I'm sure I don't need to completely elaborate on it meaning piece of ....
Am 13.01.2013 22:22, schrieb g:
On 01/13/2013 08:58 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
On 13/01/13 15:14, g wrote:
also, good luck with subfolders under inbox.
thank you.
Is there some reason not to do that?
yes.
because what can happen is;
}> I have sub-sub folders and they }> *seem* to work, stuff get filtered into the right directory *most* of }> the time, only pop3, don't want imap, occasionally it fails and goes }> to *junk* but as *infrequently* as that happens I put up with it.
POP3 does not have subfolders at all serverside
so if you want to use subfolders use them local after POP3 received your messages from the server or use IMAP - there is nothing in between
On 01/13/2013 09:16 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 13.01.2013 22:15, schrieb g:
On 01/13/2013 08:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 13.01.2013 21:14, schrieb g:
also, good luck with subfolders under inbox
who needs luck there? "mail.check_all_imap_folders_for_new" is your friend
i am aware of that, but is not what i was writing about
so what is your problem with subfolders under inbox?
i do not have problems with subfolders under inbox. tho there are many who have posted to mozilla's thunderbird tsl that had problems with subfolders under inbox. once done, problems end.
if there is no one (and there is no one) waht did you try to tell us?
"no one" who?
On 01/13/2013 09:35 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: <>
POP3 does not have subfolders at all serverside
so if you want to use subfolders use them local after POP3 received your messages from the server or use IMAP - there is nothing in between
it would be nice if you would get your back thinking back to what the "Subject: Re: [OT] posting and receiving post" relates to.
therefore, until such time occurs, i will not longer reply to your post.
Am 13.01.2013 22:54, schrieb g:
On 01/13/2013 09:35 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: <>
POP3 does not have subfolders at all serverside
so if you want to use subfolders use them local after POP3 received your messages from the server or use IMAP - there is nothing in between
it would be nice if you would get your back thinking back to what the "Subject: Re: [OT] posting and receiving post" relates to.
therefore, until such time occurs, i will not longer reply to your post
well, if you do not want to discuss about something do not post strange things like "also, good luck with subfolders under inbox" which makes no sense at all
On 01/13/2013 09:19 PM, Tim wrote:
Tim:
My guess, "Technical Support List," but I hate having to guess at abbreviations and jargon.
g:
was that a guess or actually a memory recall? ;)
Educated guess.
well done.
I can only guess at that the abbreviations might stand for, as the service manual makes no mention of them. NOL may be normal output level, ROL could be reserve output level, and POL peak output levels. But I don't really know. Nor do I know what maximum transmission levels the station would have set back in the late 1960s, or early 1970s, in Australia, to confirm it that way, either.
i will give you another "A+". not because of any radio broadcast experience on my part, but from knowing several radio station engineers and having worked a lot in recording studios.
tho you may not be familiar with names of studios where i have done service worked, they were sam phillips, sun, and stax. there were 3 more, but their names escape me.
this was in days of tubes and i learned real quick about cleaning dust that had settled on systems.
El dom, 13-01-2013 a las 08:44 -0500, Tom Horsley escribió:
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 10:03:01 +0000 g wrote:
why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my via my subscription and sometimes i do not?
I don't know if any other mail services operate the same as gmail, but with gmail the only way I can see my own messages on the list is to post with one gmail address (which I tell the mailing list to not send mail to) and read with a different address. Gmail apparently thinks that if I sent it, I can't need a copy back to verify it got through :-(.
Hello!
Have you take a look in your Sent folder? Either in the webmail or in the mail client. If they are there, it means that they were sent. If there's no error message, I supposed, they reach their destinies.
My 2 cents, Lailah
On 1/13/13, g geleem@bellsouth.net wrote:
why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my via my subscription and sometimes i do not?
- If you want this to happen always, there's an option to enable it in the Mailman settings: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/options/users
If you do *not* want this to happen, and that setting is disabled, there might be a bug in the list software. You can contact Fedora Infrastructure on their list for help: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure
-T.C.
On 01/13/2013 02:03 AM, g wrote:
why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my via my subscription and sometimes i do not?
You won't normally receive messages which list your address on a To: or CC: header. Perhaps those are the messages that you're not receiving via subscription.
On 01/14/2013 01:03 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: <>
If you want this to happen always, there's an option to enable it in the Mailman settings: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/options/users
yes, this was first thing i checked when it started to happen.
If you do *not* want this to happen, and that setting is disabled, there might be a bug in the list software.
hmmm. i believe you have that reversed.
=+=+= Mail delivery
Set this option to Enabled to receive messages posted to this mailing list. Set it to Disabled if you want to stay subscribed, but don't want mail delivered to you for a while (e.g. you're going on vacation). If you disable mail delivery, don't forget to re-enable it when you come back; it will not be automatically re-enabled. =+=+=
is enabled, so i should be receiving.
currently, i have made 12 post with only 4 post coming back in list. first post is among missing.
You can contact Fedora Infrastructure on their list for help: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/infrastructure
above link looks like answer to problem and what i will have to do.
thank you T.C. for your informative reply.
On 01/14/2013 01:46 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 01/13/2013 02:03 AM, g wrote:
why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my via my subscription and sometimes i do not?
You won't normally receive messages which list your address on a To: or CC: header. Perhaps those are the messages that you're not receiving via subscription.
i have no reason or need to put my address in either "To:" or "Cc:".
please see post from and my reply to T.C. Hollingsworth.
On 13 January 2013 20:12, g geleem@bellsouth.net wrote:
On 01/13/2013 01:59 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: <>
Gmail is slightly weird in several respects, since it's basically a
that it is and why i do not use my gmail accounts for regular posting to this tsl.
In any case, the OP doesn't appear to be using Gmail so the question is moot.
i did not see a solution to my question, so the post is moot.
You seem to be working under a misapprehension. This is the 'fedora-users list', it is a good place to get technical support, but it is not a 'tsl' as you've decided to call it, and other posters are not actually required to limit their emails to it solely to solutions to your particular problem.
As to which, I see other people have already suggested the 'avoid duplicate messages' option in the subscription settings. If that hasn't solved it then it may be informative to look in you sent folder and compare headers of emails which did and did not get copied to you.
On 01/14/2013 08:06 AM, Ian Malone wrote:
On 13 January 2013 20:12, g geleem@bellsouth.net wrote:
On 01/13/2013 01:59 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: <>
Gmail is slightly weird in several respects, since it's basically a
that it is and why i do not use my gmail accounts for regular posting to this tsl.
In any case, the OP doesn't appear to be using Gmail so the question is moot.
i did not see a solution to my question, so the post is moot.
You seem to be working under a misapprehension.
i have no 'misapprehension' of what this email list is for.
This is the 'fedora-users list',
so i noted when i first joined this list.
it is a good place to get technical support, but it is not a 'tsl' as you've decided to call it,
it might be more proper to refer to this list as a 'usl' as it is a 'user support list'.
i happen to consider most of the post i have seen in this list of a technical type of relationship to operations of fedora, rather than, specifically for, admin, announce, documentation, electronic lab, games, spins, remix, package, kernel, kde, legal, mobility, ppc, spins, test, virt, xen, sig, selinux, security.
other posters are not actually required to limit their emails to it solely to solutions to your particular problem.
never said that they were.
As to which, I see other people have already suggested the 'avoid duplicate messages' option in the subscription settings.
as already stated in another post, i do not have said feature enabled.
If that hasn't solved it then it may be informative to look in you sent folder and compare headers of emails which did and did not get copied to you.
that is not how i have thunderbird setup, nor do i desire to set it up in that way.
all of this is moot and really has nothing to do with problem that i posted.
so, i am now of belief that you have a misapprehension in thinking that your post is a proper post and that it will help solve what i specified in my first post.
in other words, if you can not help, please do not bother me.
in short, read t. c. hollingsworth's post and my reply.
even shorter - KAFBA.
On 01/14/2013 07:38 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 01/13/2013 07:34 PM, g wrote:
please see post from and my reply to T.C. Hollingsworth.
I believe that both he and I were referring to the last option in the mailman user preferences: Avoid duplicate copies of messages
if i do not see a list posting, i do not know if my post made it to list.
On 01/14/2013 10:34 AM, g wrote:
it might be more proper to refer to this list as a 'usl' as it is a 'user support list'.
It might be even better if you didn't invent personal abbreviations and expect the rest of us to know what they mean without explanation. I don't go *clink!* when I walk and I doubt that the rest of us do, either.
On 14 January 2013 19:07, poma pomidorabelisima@gmail.com wrote:
On 01/13/2013 11:03 AM, g wrote:
why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my via my subscription and sometimes i do not?
Nobody's perfect.
Though that reply comes close.
On 01/14/2013 06:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 01/14/2013 10:34 AM, g wrote:
it might be more proper to refer to this list as a 'usl' as it is a 'user support list'.
It might be even better if you didn't invent personal abbreviations and expect the rest of us to know what they mean without explanation. I don't go *clink!* when I walk and I doubt that the rest of us do, either.
so that i be polite about your comment.
On 01/14/2013 12:15 PM, g wrote:
On 01/14/2013 06:54 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 01/14/2013 10:34 AM, g wrote:
it might be more proper to refer to this list as a 'usl' as it is a 'user support list'.
It might be even better if you didn't invent personal abbreviations and expect the rest of us to know what they mean without explanation. I don't go *clink!* when I walk and I doubt that the rest of us do, either.
so that i be polite about your comment.
I gather, then, that you got my point. I didn't spell it out because I didn't want to be needlessly vulgar. (Anybody who wants an explanation can ask me off-list. Unlike some members, I do receive and read private messages to this address.)
On 14 January 2013 18:34, g geleem@bellsouth.net wrote:
On 01/14/2013 08:06 AM, Ian Malone wrote:
so, i am now of belief that you have a misapprehension in thinking that your post is a proper post and that it will help solve what i specified in my first post.
in other words, if you can not help, please do not bother me.
in short, read t. c. hollingsworth's post and my reply.
Actually you've still misunderstood, but since I'm out of g-time you can figure it out on your own, or go and look up more acronyms to play with.
Am 15.01.2013 02:03, schrieb g:
On 01/14/2013 08:37 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: <>
I gather, then, that you got my point.
you wee making a point? wow. i thought you were being otherwise.
would you please stop trolling and childish-language before i get moderated again after said what i think?
On 01/14/2013 09:04 PM, Ian Malone wrote: <>
Actually you've still misunderstood,
actually, it is you who does not understand.
so, here it, plain and simple--
if you can not help a poster, any poster, then do not post to thread with you non helpful comments or insinuating remarks.
if you can not offer any helpful info, do not dump your personal feelings into threads. you only show how ridiculous you are.
this fedora user list, [here after to be referred to as FUL] is for people with questions looking for answers and people with helpful answers to help them.
but since I'm out of g-time
good. now, there will be more room for a good reply be posted. there have been several come in, one of which i have yet to finish following, but will after sending this.
you can figure it out on your own
i just might. for sure you have been of no help.
or go and look up more acronyms to play with.
here is one for you i do not have to look up...
K.A.F.B.A.
Am 15.01.2013 02:30, schrieb g:
or go and look up more acronyms to play with.
here is one for you i do not have to look up...
K.A.F.B.A.
please realize that on tech-lists nobody is interested in acronyms and child speak, from your posts the last days i would say you can not be older than 13
please try not to act this way on tech lists
On 01/13/2013 09:55 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: <>
well, if you do not want to discuss about something do not post strange things like "also, good luck with subfolders under inbox" which makes no sense at all
please excuse delay in replying to your second post. i was not trying to ignore you. it is only that i do have other things to do and i am doing email when i have a chance to.
if you would like an answer to my comment, post a question in a new email to start a new thread and i will be glad to explain it to you.
On 01/14/2013 07:07 PM, poma wrote:
On 01/13/2013 11:03 AM, g wrote:
why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my via my subscription and sometimes i do not?
Nobody's perfect.
very true. what bugs me about all this is this is first time i have ever had problems with any mozilla software and this one is a bit.
it is only happening with fedora users list [here after to be referred to as FUL], so i at least have it narrowed down.
i started to post a question to support-thunderbird@lists.mozilla.org, aka, MST, but they have more squirrels running around on their lists than what FUL has. and for strange reasons, some of them love to post 'left handed' remarks when a linux user has a problem.
another reason is that MST is loaded with oos users who use bogus names because they are afraid of spam and do not know how to eliminate it.
Cheers,
Opa. Metaxa.
On 01/13/2013 04:23 PM, Tim wrote:
Tim:
What's a poc? ;-)
Patrick O'Callaghan:
Part of a sig.
But that would be spelt POAS... ;-)
Speaking of TLAs, it always makes me smirk when I see someone refer to a computerised cash register as a POS (point of sales) device. Considering that the POS is often based on DOS or Windows, the other common usage of POS springs to mind, every time. I'm sure I don't need to completely elaborate on it meaning piece of ....
"Piece Of Sandwich"?.... "Piece Of Silver"?... "Piece Of Sanity"?....
LoL!
EGO II
On 01/13/2013 10:03 AM, g wrote:
why is it that when posting to this tsl i will sometimes receive my via my subscription and sometimes i do not?
[*solved*]
get a hunch. bet a bunch.
as it turns out the ???great and wonderful??? yahoo has done it again.
for some strange and yet to be know reason, yahoo has been marking emails from this list and 2 others that i subscribe to.
in a desperate hope of finding a link to someone at the ???great and wonderful??? yahoo who could help me with this problem, i decided to log att.com to look for such a link.
thinking that the place to start would be from the email page, i move to it to see what might be shown.
what hit me in the eye as soon as email page opened was that i had 385 emails in the Spam folder. thinking that that was a lot of spam that i had been saved from, i open the Spam folder.
needless to say, first thing i noted was that first view was all emails from the list that i subscribe to. of the 385 "spam" emails, 3 where actually spam.
pissed is a mild description of how i felt. PFM is closer. what was even more aggravating, there is nothing in the email setup to disable spam filtering. if there is, it is hidden because i looked thru ever section of setups.
tomorrow i will be talking with at&t internet service and if they do not offer a solution, i will be looking for a new dsl service.
it is not bad enough that i am paying for a 756k0 service and only getting, sometimes, 78k0 download, but now i find out that the ???great and wonderful??? yahoo email service has been marking good emails as spam and then automatically deleting them for me. what is even worse, this has been going on for almost a full year.
and yes, i have used firefox to do online emailing. only reason i can figure that i did not notice anything strange is because i must have logged in when Spam folder had been so thoughtfully automatically cleaned.
my most great full appreciation to all who took time to post to this thread in effort to help.
to those who more of a hinder than help, you get another KAFBA. (GBWG)
later.
may God bless you all.
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 02:45 +0000, g wrote:
now i find out that the ???great and wonderful??? yahoo email service has been marking good emails as spam and then automatically deleting them for me. what is even worse, this has been going on for almost a full year.
No spam filter is perfect. You need to check what it's doing from time to time, and it's easy to forget, especially when it's mostly working.
poc
On 01/17/2013 09:54 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 02:45 +0000, g wrote:
now i find out that the ???great and wonderful??? yahoo email service has been marking good emails as spam and then automatically deleting them for me. what is even worse, this has been going on for almost a full year.
No spam filter is perfect. You need to check what it's doing from time to time, and it's easy to forget, especially when it's mostly working.
Granted, I've had a few GT's tonight... But, IMHO, too much time has been spent on this OT subject with no bearing Fedora as a whole.
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 22:11 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 01/17/2013 09:54 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 02:45 +0000, g wrote:
now i find out that the ???great and wonderful??? yahoo email service has been marking good emails as spam and then automatically deleting them for me. what is even worse, this has been going on for almost a full year.
No spam filter is perfect. You need to check what it's doing from time to time, and it's easy to forget, especially when it's mostly working.
Granted, I've had a few GT's tonight... But, IMHO, too much time has been spent on this OT subject with no bearing Fedora as a whole.
And yet you tempt us with another acronym :-)
(I just figured out you meant Gin and Tonic. It's usually spelt G&T where I come from).
poc
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 09:34 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
And yet you tempt us with another acronym :-)
(I just figured out you meant Gin and Tonic. It's usually spelt G&T where I come from).
Here, GT is a car. Holden GT.
;-)
On 01/17/2013 01:54 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 02:45 +0000, g wrote:
now i find out that the ???great and wonderful??? yahoo email service has been marking good emails as spam and then automatically deleting them for me. what is even worse, this has been going on for almost a full year.
No spam filter is perfect. You need to check what it's doing from time to time, and it's easy to forget, especially when it's mostly working.
i am hoping that it is perfect. yuckahoo help was of little help. i did run a search via duckduckgo.com to find what is supposed to turn off spam filter.
what grips me about yuckahoo is why, when i had spam filtering turned off when i was enjoying bellsouth.net as email server and them they come along and turn them back on.
another grip is now that i have spam filters turned, feature of "Select or deselect all messages" and "Check All - Clear All" no longer works in any of the Folders.
i guess that is a price one has to pay for turning off spam filtering. :)
btfw, tim was correct about 'tsl'. shame he does not like abbrevs. ;)
On 01/17/2013 02:11 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: <>
Granted, I've had a few GT's tonight... But, IMHO, too much time has been spent on this OT subject with no bearing Fedora as a whole.
i agree. 5 days and you did not make a suggestion to check if email server was filtering.
plus, neither of your 2 post offer any type of suggestion as to what might be problem. (GBWG)
On 01/17/2013 02:04 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 22:11 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
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Granted, I've had a few GT's tonight... But, IMHO, too much time has
been spent on this OT subject with no bearing Fedora as a whole.
And yet you tempt us with another acronym :-)
(I just figured out you meant Gin and Tonic. It's usually spelt G&T where I come from).
it would be nice if he sobered up and set his 'line wrap'.
+1 on the G&T.
On 01/17/2013 09:20 PM, Tim wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 09:34 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
And yet you tempt us with another acronym :-)
(I just figured out you meant Gin and Tonic. It's usually spelt G&T where I come from).
Here, GT is a car. Holden GT.
also, it could stand for 'great t..ts', or 'great t.ts'. depending on where you are from. ;-)
On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 13:54 +0000, g wrote:
No spam filter is perfect. You need to check what it's doing from
time
to time, and it's easy to forget, especially when it's mostly
working.
i am hoping that it is perfect.
It isn't. Think about it: a perfect spam filter would mean you would only ever see mail you were interested in. There's no practical way to do that.
poc
Am 20.01.2013 15:02, schrieb g:
On 01/17/2013 02:11 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: <>
Granted, I've had a few GT's tonight... But, IMHO, too much time has been spent on this OT subject with no bearing Fedora as a whole.
i agree. 5 days and you did not make a suggestion to check if email server was filtering.
because everybody thought you would be smart enough to check basics of OYUR mail account at your own?
P.S: stop write 20 replyies at you are doing now to same subject why the hell can you not combine all your 1-liners in ONE message?
On 01/20/2013 02:08 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sun, 2013-01-20 at 13:54 +0000, g wrote:
No spam filter is perfect. You need to check what it's doing from
time
to time, and it's easy to forget, especially when it's mostly
working.
i am hoping that it is perfect.
It isn't. Think about it: a perfect spam filter would mean you would only ever see mail you were interested in. There's no practical way to do that.
true. i will give you that one. ;)
also, being that it is yuckahoo, i well expect there to be problems.
as i stated in another post, tagging and untagging _all_ emails has stopped working.
i will give thunderbird credit for it's spam filters. from building of spam filters for around 15 years, only spam i see is what comes thru a list. even that is rare because it does catch a lot of what is sent thru the list. primarily, it comes in thru mozilla's list.
On 01/20/2013 02:32 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 20.01.2013 15:02, schrieb g:
On 01/17/2013 02:11 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: <>
Granted, I've had a few GT's tonight... But, IMHO, too much time has been spent on this OT subject with no bearing Fedora as a whole.
i agree. 5 days and you did not make a suggestion to check if email server was filtering.
because everybody thought you would be smart enough to check basics of OYUR mail account at your own?
as it is, when i first thought i had a problem, i did check server on several occasions. as it now turns, my checks must have been after yuckahoo had deleted what was in spam folder. plus, at those times of checking, i did check what set was for spam filtering and it was not clear at that time just what was going on. later on, when i posted [*solved*], was after checking spam folder and finding over 900 emails in spam folder. only 3 where actually spam.
P.S: stop write 20 replyies at you are doing now to same subject why the hell can you not combine all your 1-liners in ONE message?
because i make replies as i am reading emails. not every one can be as perfect as you seem to think you are. !not!
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