how to run WindowMaker "dockapps" in KDE?

[Paul Johnson]

Recently, I've been exploring KDE and have found its window manager,
kwin, to be quite excellent.  Combined with kdesktop, I can get just
about all of the customizations I want.

I have been a long time WindowMaker user, and have grown accustomed to
some of the dockapps.  I can't find any way to dock them in a KDE
system.  Program writers seem to think "dock" means an application
launcher, but in WindowMaker a dock is more than that. It is a place
where programs can run in "miniwindows".  Yes, a dock can be a
launcher, but we don't need that function. What we need is some place
for a small program to run.

In particular, since I cannot find a small CPU monitor applet for the
kde panel, I want to run dockapps like "wmload" or "wmmon".  When I
run them now, they just go to the top of the screen and the desktop
background shows through the clear parts (alpha channel, I suppose).
 I guess that is adequate, but not so good looking as plopping the app
down on top of the pleasant colored square.  It looks like this now:

http://pj.freefaculty.org/WindowManagers/wmmon_on_kde.png

Whereas it should be mounted on a standard background pixmap, as shown here

http://pj.freefaculty.org/WindowManagers/wmmon_should_be.png

Got any help on how to run things in miniwindows and have them restart
every time you log in?

-- 
Paul E. Johnson
Professor, Political Science
1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504
University of Kansas

[Carroll Grigsby]

On Wednesday 01 August 2007 4:23:05 pm Paul Johnson wrote:
>  Recently, I've been exploring KDE and have found its window
> manager,
>  kwin, to be quite excellent.  Combined with kdesktop, I can get just
>  about all of the customizations I want.
>
>  I have been a long time WindowMaker user, and have grown accustomed to
>  some of the dockapps.  I can't find any way to dock them in a KDE
>  system.  Program writers seem to think "dock" means an application
>  launcher, but in WindowMaker a dock is more than that. It is a place
>  where programs can run in "miniwindows".  Yes, a dock can be a
>  launcher, but we don't need that function. What we need is some place
>  for a small program to run.
>
>  In particular, since I cannot find a small CPU monitor applet for the
>  kde panel, I want to run dockapps like "wmload" or "wmmon".  When I
>  run them now, they just go to the top of the screen and the desktop
>  background shows through the clear parts (alpha channel, I suppose).
>   I guess that is adequate, but not so good looking as plopping the app
>  down on top of the pleasant colored square.  It looks like this now:
>
>  http://pj.freefaculty.org/WindowManagers/wmmon_on_kde.png
>
>  Whereas it should be mounted on a standard background pixmap, as shown here
>
>  http://pj.freefaculty.org/WindowManagers/wmmon_should_be.png
>
>  Got any help on how to run things in miniwindows and have them restart
>  every time you log in? 
Paul:
KDE includes some panel applets that might solve your problem. To access them, 
right click on the panel and select "Add Applet to the Panel". A window will 
open offering a selection of applets. There are two that may be of interest 
to you: System Monitor (pretty damn simple), and System Guard (probably 
closer to what you are accustomed to). Once installed, they are automatically 
loaded whenever you log in to KDE. And, if you want to get rid of either, 
right click on the panel again and take the "Remove from Panel" route.

Disclaimer: I'm not sure if the default Fedora KDE package includes either or 
both of these applets; you may have to do some yumexing among the KDE 
packages.

-- cmg

[Paul Johnson]

So, no way you know of to run dockapps?  There are dockapps of all
kinds I'd like, not just that one. Oh, well.

Fedora does have the System Guard applet, but it is annoying  to me
(hard to read). I use that mainly to spot runaway processes or
malfunctions that use all CPU.  There is No SystemMonitor applet, but
I'll look around to try to find it.

pj

On 8/1/07, Carroll Grigsby <cgrigs(a)earthlink.net&gt; wrote:
>  On Wednesday 01 August 2007 4:23:05 pm Paul Johnson wrote:
>  > Recently, I've been exploring KDE and have found its window manager,
>  > kwin, to be quite excellent.  Combined with kdesktop, I can get just
>  > about all of the customizations I want.
>  >
>  > I have been a long time WindowMaker user, and have grown accustomed to
>  > some of the dockapps.  I can't find any way to dock them in a KDE
>  > system.  Program writers seem to think "dock" means an application
>  > launcher, but in WindowMaker a dock is more than that. It is a place
>  > where programs can run in "miniwindows".  Yes, a dock can be a
>  > launcher, but we don't need that function. What we need is some place
>  > for a small program to run.
>  >
>  > In particular, since I cannot find a small CPU monitor applet for the
>  > kde panel, I want to run dockapps like "wmload" or "wmmon". 
> When I
>  > run them now, they just go to the top of the screen and the desktop
>  > background shows through the clear parts (alpha channel, I suppose).
>  >  I guess that is adequate, but not so good looking as plopping the app
>  > down on top of the pleasant colored square.  It looks like this now:
>  >
>  > http://pj.freefaculty.org/WindowManagers/wmmon_on_kde.png
>  >
>  > Whereas it should be mounted on a standard background pixmap, as shown here
>  >
>  > http://pj.freefaculty.org/WindowManagers/wmmon_should_be.png
>  >
>  > Got any help on how to run things in miniwindows and have them restart
>  > every time you log in?
>
>  Paul:
>  KDE includes some panel applets that might solve your problem. To access them,
>  right click on the panel and select "Add Applet to the Panel". A window will
>  open offering a selection of applets. There are two that may be of interest
>  to you: System Monitor (pretty damn simple), and System Guard (probably
>  closer to what you are accustomed to). Once installed, they are automatically
>  loaded whenever you log in to KDE. And, if you want to get rid of either,
>  right click on the panel again and take the "Remove from Panel" route.
>
>  Disclaimer: I'm not sure if the default Fedora KDE package includes either or
>  both of these applets; you may have to do some yumexing among the KDE
>  packages.
>
>  -- cmg
>
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-- 
Paul E. Johnson
Professor, Political Science
1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504
University of Kansas

[Chris Jones]

On Thursday 2 August 2007 8:25:10 pm Paul Johnson wrote:
>  So, no way you know of to run dockapps?  There are dockapps of all
>  kinds I'd like, not just that one. Oh, well. 
If you right-click on your KDE panel you should get an option to add a new 
panel - under that there is a dock application bar option. Never tried 
dockapps myself or this panel, but Is this what you are looking for ?

Chris