startx doen't die on logout

[Shoshana Rosenthal]

Hi,

I am running fedora 2.4.22-1.2174.nptlsmp on my PC. I have dual monitors.
The video controller is a VGA compatible controller, NVIDIA Corp.
I have installed 
NVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-5336
and configured XF86Config. The X session seems to work fine,
with the exception that when I logout of the session, I don't
return to the login window. I have to kill startx from a remote session.

Does any one have any clue what the problem might be?

TIA
Shoshana

[Jeff Vian]

Shoshana Rosenthal wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am running fedora 2.4.22-1.2174.nptlsmp on my PC. I have dual monitors.
> The video controller is a VGA compatible controller, NVIDIA Corp.
> I have installed 
> NVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module  1.0-5336
> and configured XF86Config. The X session seems to work fine,
> with the exception that when I logout of the session, I don't
> return to the login window. I have to kill startx from a remote session.
>
> Does any one have any clue what the problem might be?

Are you running in runlevel 3 or 5?

The only way startx is commonly used is in runlevel 3, to start the 
graphics interface.
To kill it in that setup  use ctl-alt-bksp and it will return you to the 
command line.

If you are in runlevel 5 (graphics) I don't have a clue. :-(
> TIA
> Shoshana

[Keven Ring]

Jeff Vian wrote:
> Shoshana Rosenthal wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am running fedora 2.4.22-1.2174.nptlsmp on my PC. I have dual 
> > monitors.
> > The video controller is a VGA compatible controller, NVIDIA Corp.
> > I have installed NVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module  
> > 1.0-5336
> > and configured XF86Config. The X session seems to work fine,
> > with the exception that when I logout of the session, I don't
> > return to the login window. I have to kill startx from a remote session.
> >
> > Does any one have any clue what the problem might be?
>
> Are you running in runlevel 3 or 5?
>
> The only way startx is commonly used is in runlevel 3, to start the 
> graphics interface.
> To kill it in that setup  use ctl-alt-bksp and it will return you to 
> the command line.
>
> If you are in runlevel 5 (graphics) I don't have a clue. :-(
> > TIA
> > Shoshana

I don't have any significant insight into the problem, but I can add to 
it... ;)

I have a laptop + dock station at work with Fedora Core 1 installed, 
with all of it's packages up to date.  The laptop displays with a 
resolution of 1400x1050, while my external flat panel only can do 
1280x1024.  If I log out of my laptop, the screen becomes completely 
unusable - that is, a black screen.  Ctrl-Alt-Backspace does *not* kill 
the server.  I can ssh into the box, and manually kill the X server 
process [not startx, as the previous poster mentioned].  This brings the 
gdm window back to it's original glory.  Another person that I know at 
work has a similar configuration, and has the same problem.  Yet another 
laptop [without a docking station] does not exhibit this problem.

At home, I have a desktop computer with Fedora Core 1 installed, and two 
1280x1024 displays.  I have no problem logging out [that is, the X 
server terminates on it's own accord] and getting the gdm login prompt.

All three laptops have ATI graphics cards, while the desktop at home has 
a Matrox MGA card.

If I had to take a stab in the dark, I'd say that there might be 
something wrong when X tries to log out and there are different display 
resolutions, but that's just a wild stab.

I'll set the laptop display to 1280x1024 tomorrow, and report back.

BTW - all systems boot into runlevel 5, and have never been booted into 
level 3.

[Keven Ring]

Keven Ring wrote:
> Jeff Vian wrote:
> > Shoshana Rosenthal wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am running fedora 2.4.22-1.2174.nptlsmp on my PC. I have dual 
> > > monitors.
> > > The video controller is a VGA compatible controller, NVIDIA Corp.
> > > I have installed NVRM version: NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel 
> > > Module  1.0-5336
> > > and configured XF86Config. The X session seems to work fine,
> > > with the exception that when I logout of the session, I don't
> > > return to the login window. I have to kill startx from a remote 
> > > session.
> > >
> > > Does any one have any clue what the problem might be?
> >
> > Are you running in runlevel 3 or 5?
> >
> > The only way startx is commonly used is in runlevel 3, to start the 
> > graphics interface.
> > To kill it in that setup  use ctl-alt-bksp and it will return you to 
> > the command line.
> >
> > If you are in runlevel 5 (graphics) I don't have a clue. :-(
> > > TIA
> > > Shoshana
>
> I don't have any significant insight into the problem, but I can add 
> to it... ;)
>
> I have a laptop + dock station at work with Fedora Core 1 installed, 
> with all of it's packages up to date.  The laptop displays with a 
> resolution of 1400x1050, while my external flat panel only can do 
> 1280x1024.  If I log out of my laptop, the screen becomes completely 
> unusable - that is, a black screen.  Ctrl-Alt-Backspace does *not* 
> kill the server.  I can ssh into the box, and manually kill the X 
> server process [not startx, as the previous poster mentioned].  This 
> brings the gdm window back to it's original glory.  Another person 
> that I know at work has a similar configuration, and has the same 
> problem.  Yet another laptop [without a docking station] does not 
> exhibit this problem.
>
> At home, I have a desktop computer with Fedora Core 1 installed, and 
> two 1280x1024 displays.  I have no problem logging out [that is, the X 
> server terminates on it's own accord] and getting the gdm login prompt.
>
> All three laptops have ATI graphics cards, while the desktop at home 
> has a Matrox MGA card.
>
> If I had to take a stab in the dark, I'd say that there might be 
> something wrong when X tries to log out and there are different 
> display resolutions, but that's just a wild stab.
>
> I'll set the laptop display to 1280x1024 tomorrow, and report back.
>
> BTW - all systems boot into runlevel 5, and have never been booted 
> into level 3.

When I set the laptop to have 2x1280x1024 displays, login/logout works 
fine.  When I reset the display to 1x1400x1050, 1x1280x1024, the X 
Server fails to terminate.

By the way, there is a bugzilla report, bug #110639.  If anyone has more 
information, you might want to add to the list.  The bug is listed as 
"CLOSED".

[Oisin Curtin]

Keven Ring wrote a sequel:
> Keven Ring wrote:
> > Jeff Vian wrote:
> > > Shoshana Rosenthal wrote:
> > > > and configured XF86Config. The X session seems to work fine,
> > > > with the exception that when I logout of the session, I don't
> > > > return to the login window. I have to kill startx from a remote 
> > > > session.
> > > To kill it in that setup  use ctl-alt-bksp and it will return you to 
> > > the command line.
> > > If you are in runlevel 5 (graphics) I don't have a clue. :-(
> > I have a laptop + dock station at work with Fedora Core 1 installed, 
> > with all of it's packages up to date.  The laptop displays with a 
> > resolution of 1400x1050, while my external flat panel only can do 
> > 1280x1024.  If I log out of my laptop, the screen becomes completely 
> > unusable - that is, a black screen.  Ctrl-Alt-Backspace does *not*
> > All three laptops have ATI graphics cards, while the desktop at home 
> > has a Matrox MGA card.

I have an HP vectra at work with matrox on MB, works fine.
Exact same vectra at home, but with added ATI @work, fails on logout
in mode 5.

I kill (signal TERM, the default) the two copies of gdm-binary instead
of kill -9 X.  It seems to be a cleaner kill.  (Did I just say that?)
> > If I had to take a stab in the dark, I'd say that there might be 
> > something wrong when X tries to log out and there are different 
> > display resolutions, but that's just a wild stab.

I wonder if it's a problem in the ATI driver?  Anyone have this problem
without an ATI card?
> When I set the laptop to have 2x1280x1024 displays, login/logout works 
> fine.  When I reset the display to 1x1400x1050, 1x1280x1024, the X 
> Server fails to terminate.

Is this true for repeated login/logout or just the first one or two 
times?  ISTR experimenting along the same lines.

[Keven Ring]

Oisin Curtin wrote:
> Keven Ring wrote a sequel:
> > Keven Ring wrote:
> > > Jeff Vian wrote:
> > > > Shoshana Rosenthal wrote:
> > > > > and configured XF86Config. The X session seems to work fine,
> > > > > with the exception that when I logout of the session, I don't
> > > > > return to the login window. I have to kill startx from a remote 
> > > > > session.
> > > > To kill it in that setup  use ctl-alt-bksp and it will return you to 
> > > > the command line.
> > > > If you are in runlevel 5 (graphics) I don't have a clue. :-(
> > > I have a laptop + dock station at work with Fedora Core 1 installed, 
> > > with all of it's packages up to date.  The laptop displays with a 
> > > resolution of 1400x1050, while my external flat panel only can do 
> > > 1280x1024.  If I log out of my laptop, the screen becomes completely 
> > > unusable - that is, a black screen.  Ctrl-Alt-Backspace does *not*
> > > All three laptops have ATI graphics cards, while the desktop at home 
> > > has a Matrox MGA card.
>
> I have an HP vectra at work with matrox on MB, works fine.
> Exact same vectra at home, but with added ATI @work, fails on logout
> in mode 5.
>
> I kill (signal TERM, the default) the two copies of gdm-binary instead
> of kill -9 X.  It seems to be a cleaner kill.  (Did I just say that?)
> > > If I had to take a stab in the dark, I'd say that there might be 
> > > something wrong when X tries to log out and there are different 
> > > display resolutions, but that's just a wild stab.
>
> I wonder if it's a problem in the ATI driver?  Anyone have this problem
> without an ATI card?

The "original" poster indicated that they had an NVidia card....
> > When I set the laptop to have 2x1280x1024 displays, login/logout works 
> > fine.  When I reset the display to 1x1400x1050, 1x1280x1024, the X 
> > Server fails to terminate.
>
> Is this true for repeated login/logout or just the first one or two 
> times?  ISTR experimenting along the same lines.

Well, logging out of the 2x1280x1024 worked twice in a row.  I changed 
the X config back to 1x1400x1050, 1x1280x1024, and it failed to log out.

Given that I don't log out that often, I haven't experimented logging in 
and out more than that.

[Oisin Curtin]

On Fri, 2004-03-26 at 15:06, Keven Ring wrote:
> Oisin Curtin wrote:
> > Keven Ring wrote a sequel:
> > > Keven Ring wrote:
> > > > If I had to take a stab in the dark, I'd say that there might be 
> > > > something wrong when X tries to log out and there are different 
> > > > display resolutions, but that's just a wild stab.

Looks like your dagger hit something. :-)
I set my two screens at home to 1024x768 and was able to log out with
C-A-backspace.  After fiddling about some more, I couldn't get anything 
better with dual head, so I set it back to single head.  1600x1200 on a 
single monitor trumps 1024x768 on two.
> Well, logging out of the 2x1280x1024 worked twice in a row.  I changed 
> the X config back to 1x1400x1050, 1x1280x1024, and it failed to log out.

In some previous experiments, I had it fail on the third logout.  This
time it kept going, even when I ran 2 X servers on dual head.

One final thought...
Were you running with spanning mode or separate workspaces?  I'd test,
but I'm being paged by my wife...

[Oisin Curtin]

On Thu, 2004-03-25 at 13:37, Shoshana Rosenthal wrote:
> I am running fedora 2.4.22-1.2174.nptlsmp on my PC. I have dual monitors.
> The video controller is a VGA compatible controller, NVIDIA Corp.

I'm not familiar with the NVIDIA cards.  Does the one card support two
monitors?  Do you have two NVIDIA cards?  Or is one monitor plugged into
a mainboard video controller?

Oisin "Assume Nothing" Curtin