Dock & window switching issues in Fedora 35

[Matt Morgan]

Hi. I recently upgraded to Fedora 35. I would like to change two behaviors
back to what I had before:

1) when I mouse up to the hot corner, the application dock is now at the
bottom of the screen. How can I get the dock to position itself vertically
along the left side of the screen? I've tried a few gnome extensions but
none I can find does that (except when floating the dock, which is not what
I want).

2) When I alt-tab I can get an application list, but not a window list
(e.g. if Thunderbird has two windows open, I see one entry for Thunderbird,
not two). I think I used to use an extension called "Alternate Alt-tab" to
change this, but that extension doesn't seem to be available for F35.

Bonus question: I can't find a weather extension for gnome anymore. The one
I used to use was called "OpenWeather," I think. Is there a substitute?

Thanks,
Matt

[Todd Zullinger]

Hi,

Matt Morgan wrote:
>  Hi. I recently upgraded to Fedora 35. I would like to change two
> behaviors
>  back to what I had before:
>  
>  1) when I mouse up to the hot corner, the application dock is now at the
>  bottom of the screen. How can I get the dock to position itself vertically
>  along the left side of the screen? I've tried a few gnome extensions but
>  none I can find does that (except when floating the dock, which is not what
>  I want). 
I don't know about this, as I don't make use of the dock.
Hopefully someone else will know a way to do what you want.

If there isn't an easier way to move the dock, maybe the
dash-to-dock extension could be useful?

  https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/307/dash-to-dock/

That doesn't look to be packaged for fedora, so you'd need
to install it from the extensions site or package it. :)

>  2) When I alt-tab I can get an application list, but not a window
> list
>  (e.g. if Thunderbird has two windows open, I see one entry for Thunderbird,
>  not two). I think I used to use an extension called "Alternate Alt-tab" to
>  change this, but that extension doesn't seem to be available for F35. 
The alt-tab extension isn't needed (and apparently hasn't
been for some time -- I only noticed that around f33 or f34,
as I used it as well).  You can set alt-tab to switch
windows instead of applications.

This can be done via the keyboard shortcuts UI, but I find
it's simpler to do via gsettings.  I haven't updated to f35
yet, but for f33 and f34, this is what I do (I don't expect
it has changed, but caveat emptor):

  gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-applications "[]"
  gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-applications-backward
"[]"
  gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-windows
"['<Alt>Tab', '<Super>Tab']"
  gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-windows-backward
"['<Alt><Shift>Tab',
'<Super><Shift>Tab']"

>  Bonus question: I can't find a weather extension for gnome
> anymore. The one
>  I used to use was called "OpenWeather," I think. Is there a substitute? 
I still see the openweather extension in the repos for f35:

  $ dnf -q list gnome-shell-extension-openweather | cat
  Available Packages
  gnome-shell-extension-openweather.noarch
  1-0.49.20210509gitd714eb1.fc35  updates

Is it not available or not installable for you?

-- 
Todd

[c. marlow]

On Sat, 29 Jan 2022 12:48:21 -0500
Todd Zullinger <tmz(a)pobox.com&gt; wrote:
>  If there isn't an easier way to move the dock, maybe the
>  dash-to-dock extension could be useful?
>  
>    https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/307/dash-to-dock/
>  
>  That doesn't look to be packaged for fedora, so you'd need
>  to install it from the extensions site or package it. :) 
 Is there a substitute?  
>   

I am using Dash to Dock here in Fedora 35

Chris

[Matt Morgan]

On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 12:49 PM Todd Zullinger <tmz(a)pobox.com&gt; wrote:

>  Hi,
>
>  Matt Morgan wrote:
>  > Hi. I recently upgraded to Fedora 35. I would like to change two
>  behaviors
>  > back to what I had before:
>  >
>  > 1) when I mouse up to the hot corner, the application dock is now at the
>  > bottom of the screen. How can I get the dock to position itself
>  vertically
>  > along the left side of the screen? I've tried a few gnome extensions but
>  > none I can find does that (except when floating the dock, which is not
>  what
>  > I want).
>
>  I don't know about this, as I don't make use of the dock.
>  Hopefully someone else will know a way to do what you want.
>
>  If there isn't an easier way to move the dock, maybe the
>  dash-to-dock extension could be useful?
>
>    https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/307/dash-to-dock/
>
>  That doesn't look to be packaged for fedora, so you'd need
>  to install it from the extensions site or package it. :)
>  
Thanks, yes, it's a good suggestion but not what I want.

Is there a good reason the dock has been moved almost as far as possible
from the most sensible hot corner? I thought the whole idea is that the
top-left corner is fastest for most people to get to, and then the dock was
right there. Why would it be on the bottom now? It defeats the purpose.


>  > 2) When I alt-tab I can get an application list, but not a window list
>  > (e.g. if Thunderbird has two windows open, I see one entry for
>  Thunderbird,
>  > not two). I think I used to use an extension called "Alternate Alt-tab"
>  to
>  > change this, but that extension doesn't seem to be available for F35.
>
>  The alt-tab extension isn't needed (and apparently hasn't
>  been for some time -- I only noticed that around f33 or f34,
>  as I used it as well).  You can set alt-tab to switch
>  windows instead of applications.
>
>  This can be done via the keyboard shortcuts UI, but I find
>  it's simpler to do via gsettings.  I haven't updated to f35
>  yet, but for f33 and f34, this is what I do (I don't expect
>  it has changed, but caveat emptor):
>
>    gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-applications "[]"
>    gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings
>  switch-applications-backward "[]"
>    gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-windows
>  "['<Alt>Tab', '<Super>Tab']"
>    gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-windows-backward
>  "['<Alt><Shift>Tab',
> '<Super><Shift>Tab']"
>  
Thanks! I found it in the keyboard shortcuts settings and swapped them.


>  > Bonus question: I can't find a weather extension for gnome anymore. The
>  one
>  > I used to use was called "OpenWeather," I think. Is there a substitute?
>
>  I still see the openweather extension in the repos for f35:
>
>    $ dnf -q list gnome-shell-extension-openweather | cat
>    Available Packages
>    gnome-shell-extension-openweather.noarch
>    1-0.49.20210509gitd714eb1.fc35  updates
>
>  Is it not available or not installable for you?
>  
Oh, it's there, I just thought we didn't do that anymore and they were all
in extensions.gnome.org. That's confusing. Anyway, thanks! I installed it.

[Todd Zullinger]

Matt Morgan wrote:
>  On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 12:49 PM Todd Zullinger <tmz(a)pobox.com&gt;
> wrote:
> > I still see the openweather extension in the repos for f35:
> >
> >   $ dnf -q list gnome-shell-extension-openweather | cat
> >   Available Packages
> >   gnome-shell-extension-openweather.noarch
> >   1-0.49.20210509gitd714eb1.fc35  updates
> >
> > Is it not available or not installable for you?
>  
>  Oh, it's there, I just thought we didn't do that anymore and they were all
>  in extensions.gnome.org. That's confusing. Anyway, thanks! I installed it. 
I don't know if there's a strong preference for one or the
other which is shared by most folks.

I don't like installing code directly from the web into my
home directory.  I'd much rather do that via an rpm.  Others
feel differently. :)

In the case of the openweather extension, the rpm install
works on Gnome 41 because it has a patch to declare support
for 41 which has not been picked up and released to the
extensions site yet¹.

Hopefully that will get sorted eventually and then extension
will be installable via either method.

¹ https://gitlab.com/jenslody/gnome-shell-extension-openweather/-/issues/303
 
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gnome-shell-extension-openweather/blob...

-- 
Todd

[greg]

On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 1:02 PM Matt Morgan <minxmertzmomo(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  2) When I alt-tab I can get an application list, but not a window
> list (e.g. if Thunderbird has two windows open, I see one entry for Thunderbird, not two).
> I think I
>  used to use an extension called "Alternate Alt-tab" to change this, but that
> extension doesn't seem to be available for F35. 
- Super/Windows Key and type
help -> open Gnome help app
- choose Your desktop
- see Applications and windows
in particular, switch between windows, useful keyboard shortcuts

>  Bonus question: I can't find a weather extension for gnome
> anymore. The one I used to use was called "OpenWeather," I think. Is there a
> substitute? 
- Super/Windows Key and type weather -> open weather app

greg