Getting DHCP to work/f10 declines to start network

[tom]

I'm giving f10 a try on a new disk, and therefor a fresh install.
I'm supposed to be picking up (and was with f8) the ip4 address
from a dnsmasq server via dhcp, but f10 is barfing. Well, not
entirely, as the IP6 style networking shows on ifconfig, but since
I don't want IP6 networking at this moment, that isn't exactly
usefull.

Now since I dislike Network Manage on a desktop machine, and would
prefe to have the network come up during boot, what is the prefered
way to get rid of Netwreck Mangler (sp?), and bring the network
up the old fashioned way.

I'd love to see pointers or suggestions on trouble shooting this
type issue also.

And now to go pester fiend Google and find out how little I
understand 8-/.

Thanks for the assistance.

[tom]

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Robert L Cochran wrote:

>  Tom Horsley wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:34:15 -0500 (EST)
> > tom wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Is the dhcp system busted here? Or am I nuts?
> >>
> >
> > It is possible that the F10 default install includes draconian
> > firewall rules (I'm not really sure, but they seem to be trying
> > to be fanatically secure at every turn).
> >
> > You could diable iptables and ip6tables and see if your dhcp
> > server can find you, if so, there is something about the firewall
> > rules that blocks it.
> >
> >
>  Getting an IP address through DHCP should "just work" as long as you set
>  up that network interface for it. I use Fedora 10 also, and I have a
>  separate DHCP server, and all works fine out of the box...well, out of
>  the DVD, so to speak.
>
>  I have my dhcp server set up to offer certain hosts specific IP
>  addresses, based on the MAC address of the adapter. Could that be your
>  problem here -- you are giving dhcp an MAC address it does not recognize.
>  
Shouldn't be a problem with the DHCP server, as that server worked
with this hardware running F8, a laptop, and two other desktops
running various systems. There is something funny going on here,
and I'd like to get it working, if not actually find out what
is the problem.

[Robert L Cochran]

Tom Horsley wrote:
>  On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:34:15 -0500 (EST)
>  tom wrote:
>
>    
> > Is the dhcp system busted here? Or am I nuts?
> >     
>
>  It is possible that the F10 default install includes draconian
>  firewall rules (I'm not really sure, but they seem to be trying
>  to be fanatically secure at every turn).
>
>  You could diable iptables and ip6tables and see if your dhcp
>  server can find you, if so, there is something about the firewall
>  rules that blocks it.
>
>     
Getting an IP address through DHCP should "just work" as long as you
set
up that network interface for it. I use Fedora 10 also, and I have a
separate DHCP server, and all works fine out of the box...well, out of
the DVD, so to speak.

I have my dhcp server set up to offer certain hosts specific IP
addresses, based on the MAC address of the adapter. Could that be your
problem here -- you are giving dhcp an MAC address it does not recognize.

Bob

[Anoop]

On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 11:48 PM, tom <tfreeman(a)intel.digichem.net&gt; wrote:
>  I'm giving f10 a try on a new disk, and therefor a fresh install.
>  I'm supposed to be picking up (and was with f8) the ip4 address
>  from a dnsmasq server via dhcp, but f10 is barfing. Well, not
>  entirely, as the IP6 style networking shows on ifconfig, but since
>  I don't want IP6 networking at this moment, that isn't exactly
>  usefull.
>
>  Now since I dislike Network Manage on a desktop machine, and would
>  prefe to have the network come up during boot, what is the prefered
>  way to get rid of Netwreck Mangler (sp?), and bring the network
>  up the old fashioned way. 
Disable 'NetworkManager' and enable
'network' service. You can do that
by running 'setup' on your shell. Then you can edit interface related
files in '/etc/sysconfig/networking/' to setup addresses. I am
suggesting this because, 'system-config-network' has some issues of
late.

Thanks,
Anoop
>  I'd love to see pointers or suggestions on trouble shooting this
>  type issue also.
>
>  And now to go pester fiend Google and find out how little I
>  understand 8-/.
>
>  Thanks for the assistance.
>
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[tom]

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008, Anoop wrote:

>  On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 11:48 PM, tom
> <tfreeman(a)intel.digichem.net&gt; wrote:
> >
> > I'm giving f10 a try on a new disk, and therefor a fresh install.
> > I'm supposed to be picking up (and was with f8) the ip4 address
> > from a dnsmasq server via dhcp, but f10 is barfing. Well, not
> > entirely, as the IP6 style networking shows on ifconfig, but since
> > I don't want IP6 networking at this moment, that isn't exactly
> > usefull.
> >
> > Now since I dislike Network Manage on a desktop machine, and would
> > prefe to have the network come up during boot, what is the prefered
> > way to get rid of Netwreck Mangler (sp?), and bring the network
> > up the old fashioned way.
>  Disable 'NetworkManager' and enable 'network' service. You can do that
>  by running 'setup' on your shell. Then you can edit interface related
>  files in '/etc/sysconfig/networking/' to setup addresses. I am
>  suggesting this because, 'system-config-network' has some issues of
>  late.
>  
Ok. Yet another fresh install. Disabled "NetworkManager" and enabled 
"network". Going with dhcp, I get hung at boot "Determining IP information

for eth0." Hard hung as big red switch time.

Things do seem to be willing to work if I set the IP address by hand, and 
not have dhclient try to do the job.

Is the dhcp system busted here? Or am I nuts?

> >
> > I'd love to see pointers or suggestions on trouble shooting this
> > type issue also.
> >
> > And now to go pester fiend Google and find out how little I
> > understand 8-/.
> >
> > Thanks for the assistance.
> >
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> >
>
>

[Tom Horsley]

On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:34:15 -0500 (EST)
tom wrote:

>  Is the dhcp system busted here? Or am I nuts? 
It is possible that the F10 default install includes draconian
firewall rules (I'm not really sure, but they seem to be trying
to be fanatically secure at every turn).

You could diable iptables and ip6tables and see if your dhcp
server can find you, if so, there is something about the firewall
rules that blocks it.