F9 ---> F11 server update with preupgrade?

[Peter Diercks]

Hello List!

I am running Fedora 9 on a remote dedicated server leased from a service
provider. Access is through SSH. It is a LAMP server with moodle (an
educational cms) as the only application. I want to upgrade to Fedora
11, and I need some advice as to which method to choose. Should I

- use preupgrade-cli for a direct upgrade F9 to F11?
- use preupgrade-cli for upgrading to F10 first, and then to F11?
- avoid upgrading with preupgrade-cli at all, and do a fresh F11 install
instead?

I prefer one of the first two methods over the latter one, but I
remember reading many complaints about preupgrade.

Thanks in advance for your help,

Peter

[stan]

On Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:29:06 -0700
stan <gryt2(a)q.com&gt; wrote:

>  On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:11:52 +0200
>  Peter Diercks <di(a)jls-hh.de&gt; wrote:
>  
>  > Hello List!
>  > 
>  > I am running Fedora 9 on a remote dedicated server leased from a
>  > service provider. Access is through SSH. It is a LAMP server with
>  > moodle (an educational cms) as the only application. I want to
>  > upgrade to Fedora 11, and I need some advice as to which method to
>  > choose. Should I
>  > 
>  > - use preupgrade-cli for a direct upgrade F9 to F11?
>  > - use preupgrade-cli for upgrading to F10 first, and then to F11?
>  > - avoid upgrading with preupgrade-cli at all, and do a fresh F11
>  > install instead?
>  > 
>  > I prefer one of the first two methods over the latter one, but I
>  > remember reading many complaints about preupgrade.
>  > 
>  > Thanks in advance for your help,
>  > 
>  > Peter
>  > 
>  > 
>  Your first option is not possible.  Preupgrade can't be used for that,
>  at least that is what I found when I used it to upgrade F9.  It
>  failed, by the way, but I don't think it could be blamed on
>  preupgrade.  I didn't do in depth investigation because I was going
>  to wipe the partition anyway and was only experi So it is either 2 or
>  3.   
This didn't come out right, so I am completing it here.  The preupgrade
failed at the reboot when it couldn't find the kernel it wanted to
boot.  I had custom compiled kernels on that system, and I think it got
confused by their naming.  The preupgrade said it completed
successfully, and said I just had to reboot to complete it, but it kept
getting kernel not found. Because I was just experimenting to test
preupgrade functionality, I didn't spend a lot of time determining a
solution before I wiped the partition.  I suspect more effort would
have salvaged the upgrade.

I have upgraded successfully in the past with only small problems
afterwards with configuration cleanup.

>  
>  I prefer fresh installs, restoring any customized pieces on the new
>  system.
>

[Kam Leo]

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Aldo Foot<lunixer(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>  On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Aldo Foot<lunixer(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Peter Diercks<di(a)jls-hh.de> wrote:
> >> Hello List!
> >>
> >> I am running Fedora 9 on a remote dedicated server leased from a service
> >> provider. Access is through SSH. It is a LAMP server with moodle (an
> >> educational cms) as the only application. I want to upgrade to Fedora
> >> 11, and I need some advice as to which method to choose. Should I
> >>
> >> - use preupgrade-cli for a direct upgrade F9 to F11?
> >> - use preupgrade-cli for upgrading to F10 first, and then to F11?
> >> - avoid upgrading with preupgrade-cli at all, and do a fresh F11 install
> >> instead?
> >>
> >> I prefer one of the first two methods over the latter one, but I
> >> remember reading many complaints about preupgrade.
> > _____
> >
> > An interesting note... the documentation says the preupgrade path F9->F11 is
> > not possible, but this bugzilla entry[1] says otherwise. Having said that, I'd
> > try a direct upgrade F9->F11.
> >
> > [1]https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506750
> >
> > ~af
>
>  I'll correct myself here. The bug seems to talk about a standard upgrade,
>  perhaps using DVD media. It does not mention preupgrade.
>
>  ~af 
Fedora, since about forever (If you don't believe me check the list
archives.), has recommended a fresh install versus upgrading an
existing system.  If you must upgrade use the DVD. The net-install CD
is usable; but, it does not allow addition of other repositories
(updates, rmpfusion, etc.) so you'll end up performing more updates
post-install.

[Aldo Foot]

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Aldo Foot<lunixer(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>  On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Peter Diercks<di(a)jls-hh.de>
> wrote:
> > Hello List!
> >
> > I am running Fedora 9 on a remote dedicated server leased from a service
> > provider. Access is through SSH. It is a LAMP server with moodle (an
> > educational cms) as the only application. I want to upgrade to Fedora
> > 11, and I need some advice as to which method to choose. Should I
> >
> > - use preupgrade-cli for a direct upgrade F9 to F11?
> > - use preupgrade-cli for upgrading to F10 first, and then to F11?
> > - avoid upgrading with preupgrade-cli at all, and do a fresh F11 install
> > instead?
> >
> > I prefer one of the first two methods over the latter one, but I
> > remember reading many complaints about preupgrade.
>  _____
>
>  An interesting note... the documentation says the preupgrade path F9->F11 is
>  not possible, but this bugzilla entry[1] says otherwise. Having said that, I'd
>  try a direct upgrade F9->F11.
>
>  [1]https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506750
>
>  ~af 
I'll correct myself here. The bug seems to talk about a standard upgrade,
perhaps using DVD media. It does not mention preupgrade.

~af

[Aldo Foot]

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Peter Diercks<di(a)jls-hh.de> wrote:
>  Hello List!
>
>  I am running Fedora 9 on a remote dedicated server leased from a service
>  provider. Access is through SSH. It is a LAMP server with moodle (an
>  educational cms) as the only application. I want to upgrade to Fedora
>  11, and I need some advice as to which method to choose. Should I
>
>  - use preupgrade-cli for a direct upgrade F9 to F11?
>  - use preupgrade-cli for upgrading to F10 first, and then to F11?
>  - avoid upgrading with preupgrade-cli at all, and do a fresh F11 install
>  instead?
>
>  I prefer one of the first two methods over the latter one, but I
>  remember reading many complaints about preupgrade. 
_____

An interesting note... the documentation says the preupgrade path F9->F11 is
not possible, but this bugzilla entry[1] says otherwise. Having said that, I'd
try a direct upgrade F9->F11.

[1]https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506750

~af

[stan]

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:11:52 +0200
Peter Diercks <di(a)jls-hh.de&gt; wrote:

>  Hello List!
>  
>  I am running Fedora 9 on a remote dedicated server leased from a
>  service provider. Access is through SSH. It is a LAMP server with
>  moodle (an educational cms) as the only application. I want to
>  upgrade to Fedora 11, and I need some advice as to which method to
>  choose. Should I
>  
>  - use preupgrade-cli for a direct upgrade F9 to F11?
>  - use preupgrade-cli for upgrading to F10 first, and then to F11?
>  - avoid upgrading with preupgrade-cli at all, and do a fresh F11
>  install instead?
>  
>  I prefer one of the first two methods over the latter one, but I
>  remember reading many complaints about preupgrade.
>  
>  Thanks in advance for your help,
>  
>  Peter
>  
>   
Your first option is not possible.  Preupgrade can't be used for that,
at least that is what I found when I used it to upgrade F9.  It failed,
by the way, but I don't think it could be blamed on preupgrade.  I
didn't do in depth investigation because I was going to wipe the
partition anyway and was only experi So it is either 2 or 3.  

I prefer fresh installs, restoring any customized pieces on the new
system.