Anonym Google

[Claus Reheis]

Hi all!

Does anyone know about an anonym search engine? ( a kind of anonym
google)

Thanks,

Claus


		
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[Chris Mohler]

Googling "antonym' produced this;
http://www.synonym.com/synonym/

I love when it Just Works...

Chris

[Chris Mohler]

On 11/1/06, Chris Mohler <cr33dog(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Googling "antonym' produced this;
>  http://www.synonym.com/synonym/
>
>  I love when it Just Works...
>
>  Chris
>  
OK - after using it a bit, doesn't work that well - bummer...

Chris

[David Christopher Chiipman]

	Hi Claus, 

		That's an interesting question, partly because
anonymity isn't really an issue with search engines. They don't record
who you are, remember. Later, 

			-David Chipman

[Tim]

On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 00:16 -0500, David C. chipman wrote:
>  That's an interesting question, partly because anonymity
> isn't really
>  an issue with search engines. They don't record who you are, remember. 
You haven't read the various concerns about Google and privacy, then?
If you use Google and Gmail, and allow cookies, there's a fair bet that
they can easily database you.  After all, databasing is their business.

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[Chris Mohler]

>  You haven't read the various concerns about Google and privacy,
> then?
>  If you use Google and Gmail, and allow cookies, there's a fair bet that
>  they can easily database you.  After all, databasing is their business. 
We're quickly headed off-topic, but what makes you think Yahoo, MSN,
et al aren't doing the same thing?  I'm better off in Google's
database than some others that I'm entered in... (Adobe, M$, etc.).
ECHELON.

Chris

[Tim]

Tim:
> > You haven't read the various concerns about Google and
> privacy, then?
> > If you use Google and Gmail, and allow cookies, there's a fair bet that
> > they can easily database you.  After all, databasing is their business. 
Chris Mohler:
>  We're quickly headed off-topic, but what makes you think Yahoo,
> MSN,
>  et al aren't doing the same thing? 
I never said that *they* didn't.  Databasing is their business, too.
What I took issue with, was David's, "anonymity isn't really an issue
with search engines.  They don't record who you are," comment.

While I'm yet to see a search engine that you directly log onto, there's
enough ways that they *can* record who you are.  Particularly Google and
the three that you've mentioned, simply because they all, also, provide
webmail and instant messaging services.  And while there's no onus to
provide true information, many will, and with enough databasing you
could track back someone's pseudonym to somewhere they didn't use it.
Google's verification via your mobile phone trick is one way.

So to be brief, I'm not saying that they "do" (since I don't have any
information to prove that one way or another), but they *potentially*
can.

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[Claus Reheis]

Hi!

On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 02:44 +1030, Tim wrote:
>  Tim:
>  >> You haven't read the various concerns about Google and privacy, then?
>  >> If you use Google and Gmail, and allow cookies, there's a fair bet that
>  >> they can easily database you.  After all, databasing is their business.
>  
>  Chris Mohler:
>  > We're quickly headed off-topic, but what makes you think Yahoo, MSN,
>  > et al aren't doing the same thing?
>  
>  I never said that *they* didn't.  Databasing is their business, too.
>  What I took issue with, was David's, "anonymity isn't really an issue
>  with search engines.  They don't record who you are," comment.
>  
>  While I'm yet to see a search engine that you directly log onto, there's
>  enough ways that they *can* record who you are.  Particularly Google and
>  the three that you've mentioned, simply because they all, also, provide
>  webmail and instant messaging services.  And while there's no onus to
>  provide true information, many will, and with enough databasing you
>  could track back someone's pseudonym to somewhere they didn't use it.
>  Google's verification via your mobile phone trick is one way.
>  
>  So to be brief, I'm not saying that they "do" (since I don't have any
>  information to prove that one way or another), but they *potentially*
>  can.
>  
>  -- 
>  (Currently testing FC5, but still running FC4, if that's important.)
>  
>  Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
>  I read messages from the public lists.
>   
Thanks for you answers! At least Tim understand my concerns about the
search engines!
I am worry about the "net" is getting tighter and tighter...
Specially under the cloak of the war against terrorism in the European
Union.
In Germany is a discussion about using the logs(minimum 2 years they
keep the data of track of ALL emails, IPs and Mobildatas) to fight
violations of the copyright law...
So at first they make a law using the "stalking-horse" of terrorism and
a bit later they start discussing to use that data in the interests of
the content industry!
As i remember the US government has also a eye on google's intern
database...
Who can say what happens with the information, tracked today, tomorrow?

But this list has other concerns now (FC6) :-)

But thanks anyway,

Claus    




	
		
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Hello Claus,


On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 01:57:36 +0100 Claus Reheis <c_reheis(a)yahoo.de&gt; wrote:

>  Hi all!
>  
>  Does anyone know about an anonym search engine? ( a kind of anonym
>  google) 
You could try tron for anonymous access.


Regards,

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wwp