12:17 p.m.
after latest updates, any sound application when palys streams from
the net crashes after a short time.
No idea what is causing such a problem
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2009/7/29 Aaron Konstam <akonstam(a)sbcglobal.net>:
On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 22:16 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
> 2009/7/29 Anne Wilson <annew(a)kde.org>:
> > On Wednesday 29 July 2009 20:27:03 Antonio M wrote:
> >> Anne&Jack
> >>
> >> it seems that tsched=0 solves the problem also here on my desktop,
> >> while the laptop is playing fine with the standard setup: they have
> >> different audio chip, and I had same issues on rawhide, but seems that
> >> nobody is taking previous issues, that happear again.Where is Leonart
> >> Poettering, that helped me a lot in the past???? On my desktop (that
> >> is suffering) I have a ICH5/ICH5R AC97 audio controller, while my
> >> laptop has a 82801H (ICH8 family) HD audio controller, and same infos
> >> were posted in my bugzilla's in the past
> >
> > I presume they are all Intel chipsets - mine is an ICH6. If this is now
> > resolved upstream, it's one less problem for the future. You can't
blame
> > Fedora for problem chipsets ;-)
> >
> > Anne
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> Anne,
>
> if the problem is fixed and then unfixed, I assume that something is
> broken in the development cycle (unless you think that software
> business is different from any other business, where bugs usually are
> removed definitely): I have been fighting with this bug for about one
> year since F9, do you think that it is normal??? and I am not alone,
> if you look to the big number of bugzilla's...at the end, it seemed
> fixed so I removed the tsched=0 option (and forgot about it), to
> reintroduce it after six months
People keep mentioning the tsched=0 option. Where is that option set?
>
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look in this thread a message by J.Craig...
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On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 22:16 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
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2009/7/29 Anne Wilson <annew(a)kde.org>:
> On Wednesday 29 July 2009 20:27:03 Antonio M wrote:
>> Anne&Jack
>>
>> it seems that tsched=0 solves the problem also here on my desktop,
>> while the laptop is playing fine with the standard setup: they have
>> different audio chip, and I had same issues on rawhide, but seems that
>> nobody is taking previous issues, that happear again.Where is Leonart
>> Poettering, that helped me a lot in the past???? On my desktop (that
>> is suffering) I have a ICH5/ICH5R AC97 audio controller, while my
>> laptop has a 82801H (ICH8 family) HD audio controller, and same infos
>> were posted in my bugzilla's in the past
>
> I presume they are all Intel chipsets - mine is an ICH6. If this is now
> resolved upstream, it's one less problem for the future. You can't blame
> Fedora for problem chipsets ;-)
>
> Anne
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Anne,
if the problem is fixed and then unfixed, I assume that something is
broken in the development cycle (unless you think that software
business is different from any other business, where bugs usually are
removed definitely): I have been fighting with this bug for about one
year since F9, do you think that it is normal??? and I am not alone,
if you look to the big number of bugzilla's...at the end, it seemed
fixed so I removed the tsched=0 option (and forgot about it), to
reintroduce it after six months
People keep mentioning the tsched=0 option. Where
is that option set?
3:50 p.m.
On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 13:20 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Antonio M wrote:
> after latest updates, any sound application when palys streams from
> the net crashes after a short time. No idea what is causing such a
> problem
as i posted recently, a recent update seems to now play online
videos at about double normal speed and, not surprisingly, when that
happens, i get no sound either. there's no crash, just incorrect
behaviour.
I forgot to mention when viewing videos and the sound stops the video
speeds up on my machine as well.
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2009/7/29 Anne Wilson <annew(a)kde.org>:
On Wednesday 29 July 2009 20:27:03 Antonio M wrote:
> Anne&Jack
>
> it seems that tsched=0 solves the problem also here on my desktop,
> while the laptop is playing fine with the standard setup: they have
> different audio chip, and I had same issues on rawhide, but seems that
> nobody is taking previous issues, that happear again.Where is Leonart
> Poettering, that helped me a lot in the past???? On my desktop (that
> is suffering) I have a ICH5/ICH5R AC97 audio controller, while my
> laptop has a 82801H (ICH8 family) HD audio controller, and same infos
> were posted in my bugzilla's in the past
I presume they are all Intel chipsets - mine is an ICH6. If this is now
resolved upstream, it's one less problem for the future. You can't blame
Fedora for problem chipsets ;-)
Anne
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Anne,
if the problem is fixed and then unfixed, I assume that something is
broken in the development cycle (unless you think that software
business is different from any other business, where bugs usually are
removed definitely): I have been fighting with this bug for about one
year since F9, do you think that it is normal??? and I am not alone,
if you look to the big number of bugzilla's...at the end, it seemed
fixed so I removed the tsched=0 option (and forgot about it), to
reintroduce it after six months
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2:54 p.m.
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:25:11 +0200, Antonio wrote:
> ant the problem is arising also playing mp3 stream from my hard
disk!!!!
> Latest updates are:
So, you can rule out the recent kernel update?
Or to ask differently, since your list of updates does not contain
a kernel, you are 100% sure the culprit is one of the listed updates?
> Jul 28 17:25:52 Updated: freetype.i586 2.3.9-5.fc11
> Jul 28 17:25:55 Updated: pango.i586 1.24.5-1.fc11
> Jul 28 17:25:56 Updated: bluez-libs.i586 4.42-1.fc11
> Jul 28 17:26:08 Updated: ruby-libs.i586 1.8.6.369-1.fc11
> Jul 28 17:26:12 Updated: ruby.i586 1.8.6.369-1.fc11
> Jul 28 17:26:35 Updated: rhythmbox.i586 0.12.3-1.fc11
Is rhythmbox the music player you refer to?
What happens if you downgrade? For example, to the original one from
Fedora 11 or a different one found within koji web? It's not many
updates that are related to audio.
> Jul 28 17:27:02 Updated: gstreamer-plugins-good.i586
0.10.15-4.fc11
when I play a Mp3 file, Rhythmbox starts at the right speed and then
it starts very fast playing....what is going on??? who is causing this
mess??? and this is not rawhide :-(
All I know is that the kernel-2.6.29.6-213.fc11 has touched ALSA,
and while it has improved ALSA for some of us, it may have a bad
impact on other users. Who knows?
Instead of moaning about the regression you see, try a few older
packages to find out. At least the previous kernel ought to be
a very quick test for you.
2:44 p.m.
On Wednesday 29 July 2009 20:27:03 Antonio M wrote:
Anne&Jack
it seems that tsched=0 solves the problem also here on my desktop,
while the laptop is playing fine with the standard setup: they have
different audio chip, and I had same issues on rawhide, but seems that
nobody is taking previous issues, that happear again.Where is Leonart
Poettering, that helped me a lot in the past???? On my desktop (that
is suffering) I have a ICH5/ICH5R AC97 audio controller, while my
laptop has a 82801H (ICH8 family) HD audio controller, and same infos
were posted in my bugzilla's in the past
I presume they are all Intel chipsets - mine is an ICH6. If this is now
resolved upstream, it's one less problem for the future. You can't blame
Fedora for problem chipsets ;-)
Anne
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2:40 p.m.
On 07/29/2009 12:27 PM, Antonio M wrote:
Anne&Jack
it seems that tsched=0 solves the problem also here on my desktop,
while the laptop is playing fine with the standard setup: they have
different audio chip, and I had same issues on rawhide, but seems that
nobody is taking previous issues, that happear again.Where is Leonart
Poettering, that helped me a lot in the past???? On my desktop (that
is suffering) I have a ICH5/ICH5R AC97 audio controller, while my
laptop has a 82801H (ICH8 family) HD audio controller, and same infos
were posted in my bugzilla's in the past
tnx again
FWIW, lennart guided me to the #pulseaudio on freenode where my first
posting got the fix you enjoy.
given he's in germany, seems like fine response time to me, ...
while i was there, i read several articles on pulseaudio in general and
glitch-free audio in speicfic.
i found the info to clarify my understanding of the 'flow control' issue
and get the resolution.
i dont want to start a pulseaudio debate, just point out that it wasnt
PA's issue, it was a broken alsa driver.
hth, ...
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2009/7/29 jack craig <jackc(a)linuxlighthouse.com>:
On 07/29/2009 11:48 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Wednesday 29 July 2009 19:31:50 Anne Wilson wrote:
I hope so too ;-) We'll see now whether I'm able to listen to a reaonsable
amount of music at last
It seems to have done the trick. Thanks again
Anne
Sweet! :-)
i plan to report when the next release comes along for the alsa drivers to
really have been fixed.
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Anne&Jack
it seems that tsched=0 solves the problem also here on my desktop,
while the laptop is playing fine with the standard setup: they have
different audio chip, and I had same issues on rawhide, but seems that
nobody is taking previous issues, that happear again.Where is Leonart
Poettering, that helped me a lot in the past???? On my desktop (that
is suffering) I have a ICH5/ICH5R AC97 audio controller, while my
laptop has a 82801H (ICH8 family) HD audio controller, and same infos
were posted in my bugzilla's in the past
tnx again
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2:02 p.m.
On 07/29/2009 11:48 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Wednesday 29 July 2009 19:31:50 Anne Wilson wrote:
> I hope so too ;-) We'll see now whether I'm able to listen to a reaonsable
> amount of music at last
>
It seems to have done the trick. Thanks again
Anne
Sweet! :-)
i plan to report when the next release comes along for the alsa drivers
to really have been fixed.
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1:48 p.m.
On Wednesday 29 July 2009 19:31:50 Anne Wilson wrote:
I hope so too ;-) We'll see now whether I'm able to listen
to a reaonsable
amount of music at last
It seems to have done the trick. Thanks again
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1:31 p.m.
On Wednesday 29 July 2009 19:16:44 jack craig wrote:
On 07/29/2009 11:01 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Wednesday 29 July 2009 18:53:15 Anne Wilson wrote:
>> On Wednesday 29 July 2009 18:32:52 jack craig wrote:
>>> On 07/29/2009 10:17 AM, Antonio M wrote:
>>>> after latest updates, any sound application when palys streams from
>>>> the net crashes after a short time.
>>>> No idea what is causing such a problem
>>>
>>> explore recent threads, look at your /var/log/messages and see if our
>>> recent discovery is also your problem?
>>>
>>> i have a work around if you are getting alsa bug reports in your
>>> messages file.
>>>
>>> hth, jackc...
>>
>> How about a clue, Jack? So much hokum has been talked that I've been
>> skipping the sound threads, particularly as everything else plays
>> correctly. I thought or a moment that I was going to get a whole track
>> played (my problem is in amarok, but exactly the same as the rhythmbox
>> one). This is what happened:
>>
>> Jul 29 18:45:33 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 7106 events
>> suppressed
>> Jul 29 18:45:33 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing
>> minimal latency to 56.00 ms
>> Jul 29 18:48:26 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing
>> wakeup watermark to 46.00 ms
>> Jul 29 18:48:31 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 6194 events
>> suppressed
>> Jul 29 18:48:36 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 6014 events
>> suppressed
>> Jul 29 18:48:38 anne-laptop kernel: kio_thumbnail[808]: segfault at 1320
>> ip 00a4f1de sp bfa0848c error 4 in
>> libgcc_s-4.4.0-20090506.so.1[a2e000+2a000] ^C
>>
>> The moment of the 'Increasing wakeup watermark' message is when it
>> started to race and crackle.
>>
>> Is this what you were expecting to see? I so, what's the workaround?
>>
>> Just out of curiosity, I'll do the same experiment while playing it in
>> kaffeine, as I have never seen it happen there. It will be interesting
>> to see whether the same messages appear.
>
> Yes, in kaffeine the same thing happened. Everything was going
> swimmingly until
>
> Jul 29 18:58:51 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 4191 events
> suppressed
> Jul 29 18:58:51 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing
> wakeup watermark to 56.00 ms
> Jul 29 18:58:56 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 6390 events
> suppressed
> Jul 29 18:59:01 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 5688 events
> suppressed
>
> So it's an alsa bug?
>
> Anne
sorry, i didnt want to pollute the group with WAG's if its not the same
issue.
see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514213
for defect details.
this is apparently fixed in the mainline and due next release.
i am curious if you dont also get the messages entry about the alsa bug for
snd_pcm_delay() ?
No, I didn't see those. I wouldn't have thought that that was the same
bug,
as I don't get 100& cpu usage at the time, but the
alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup
is clearly the launch of the problem in both cases.
anyway, the fix that worked for me, posted earlier, ...
to disable the g-f feature. do this, in
/etc/pulse/default.pa,
change, ...
load-module module-hal-detect
to
load-module module-hal-detect tsched=0
kill off the existing pulseaudio daemon so it restarts and reads the config
update.
hth, jackc...
I hope so too ;-) We'll see now whether I'm able to listen to a reaonsable
amount of music at last
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1:16 p.m.
On 07/29/2009 11:01 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Wednesday 29 July 2009 18:53:15 Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Wednesday 29 July 2009 18:32:52 jack craig wrote:
>
>> On 07/29/2009 10:17 AM, Antonio M wrote:
>>
>>> after latest updates, any sound application when palys streams from
>>> the net crashes after a short time.
>>> No idea what is causing such a problem
>>>
>> explore recent threads, look at your /var/log/messages and see if our
>> recent discovery is also your problem?
>>
>> i have a work around if you are getting alsa bug reports in your
>> messages file.
>>
>> hth, jackc...
>>
> How about a clue, Jack? So much hokum has been talked that I've been
> skipping the sound threads, particularly as everything else plays
> correctly. I thought or a moment that I was going to get a whole track
> played (my problem is in amarok, but exactly the same as the rhythmbox
> one). This is what happened:
>
> Jul 29 18:45:33 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 7106 events
> suppressed
> Jul 29 18:45:33 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing
> minimal latency to 56.00 ms
> Jul 29 18:48:26 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing
> wakeup watermark to 46.00 ms
> Jul 29 18:48:31 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 6194 events
> suppressed
> Jul 29 18:48:36 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 6014 events
> suppressed
> Jul 29 18:48:38 anne-laptop kernel: kio_thumbnail[808]: segfault at 1320 ip
> 00a4f1de sp bfa0848c error 4 in libgcc_s-4.4.0-20090506.so.1[a2e000+2a000]
> ^C
>
> The moment of the 'Increasing wakeup watermark' message is when it started
> to race and crackle.
>
> Is this what you were expecting to see? I so, what's the workaround?
>
> Just out of curiosity, I'll do the same experiment while playing it in
> kaffeine, as I have never seen it happen there. It will be interesting to
> see whether the same messages appear.
>
>
Yes, in kaffeine the same thing happened. Everything was going swimmingly
until
Jul 29 18:58:51 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 4191 events
suppressed
Jul 29 18:58:51 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup
watermark to 56.00 ms
Jul 29 18:58:56 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 6390 events
suppressed
Jul 29 18:59:01 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 5688 events
suppressed
So it's an alsa bug?
Anne
sorry, i didnt want to pollute the group with WAG's if its not the same
issue.
see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514213
for defect details.
this is apparently fixed in the mainline and due next release.
i am curious if you dont also get the messages entry about the alsa bug for
snd_pcm_delay() ?
anyway, the fix that worked for me, posted earlier, ...
to disable the g-f feature. do this, in
/etc/pulse/default.pa,
change, ...
load-module module-hal-detect
to
load-module module-hal-detect tsched=0
kill off the existing pulseaudio daemon so it restarts and reads the config update.
hth, jackc...
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12:32 p.m.
On 07/29/2009 10:17 AM, Antonio M wrote:
after latest updates, any sound application when palys streams from
the net crashes after a short time.
No idea what is causing such a problem
explore recent threads, look at your /var/log/messages and see if our
recent discovery is also your problem?
i have a work around if you are getting alsa bug reports in your
messages file.
hth, jackc...
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On Wednesday 29 July 2009 18:53:15 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Wednesday 29 July 2009 18:32:52 jack craig wrote:
> On 07/29/2009 10:17 AM, Antonio M wrote:
> > after latest updates, any sound application when palys streams from
> > the net crashes after a short time.
> > No idea what is causing such a problem
>
> explore recent threads, look at your /var/log/messages and see if our
> recent discovery is also your problem?
>
> i have a work around if you are getting alsa bug reports in your
> messages file.
>
> hth, jackc...
How about a clue, Jack? So much hokum has been talked that I've been
skipping the sound threads, particularly as everything else plays
correctly. I thought or a moment that I was going to get a whole track
played (my problem is in amarok, but exactly the same as the rhythmbox
one). This is what happened:
Jul 29 18:45:33 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 7106 events
suppressed
Jul 29 18:45:33 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing
minimal latency to 56.00 ms
Jul 29 18:48:26 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing
wakeup watermark to 46.00 ms
Jul 29 18:48:31 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 6194 events
suppressed
Jul 29 18:48:36 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 6014 events
suppressed
Jul 29 18:48:38 anne-laptop kernel: kio_thumbnail[808]: segfault at 1320 ip
00a4f1de sp bfa0848c error 4 in libgcc_s-4.4.0-20090506.so.1[a2e000+2a000]
^C
The moment of the 'Increasing wakeup watermark' message is when it started
to race and crackle.
Is this what you were expecting to see? I so, what's the workaround?
Just out of curiosity, I'll do the same experiment while playing it in
kaffeine, as I have never seen it happen there. It will be interesting to
see whether the same messages appear.
Yes, in kaffeine the same thing happened. Everything was going swimmingly
until
Jul 29 18:58:51 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 4191 events
suppressed
Jul 29 18:58:51 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup
watermark to 56.00 ms
Jul 29 18:58:56 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 6390 events
suppressed
Jul 29 18:59:01 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 5688 events
suppressed
So it's an alsa bug?
Anne
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12:53 p.m.
On Wednesday 29 July 2009 18:32:52 jack craig wrote:
On 07/29/2009 10:17 AM, Antonio M wrote:
> after latest updates, any sound application when palys streams from
> the net crashes after a short time.
> No idea what is causing such a problem
explore recent threads, look at your /var/log/messages and see if our
recent discovery is also your problem?
i have a work around if you are getting alsa bug reports in your
messages file.
hth, jackc...
How about a clue, Jack? So much hokum has been talked that I've been skipping
the sound threads, particularly as everything else plays correctly. I thought
or a moment that I was going to get a whole track played (my problem is in
amarok, but exactly the same as the rhythmbox one). This is what happened:
Jul 29 18:45:33 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 7106 events
suppressed
Jul 29 18:45:33 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing minimal
latency to 56.00 ms
Jul 29 18:48:26 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing wakeup
watermark to 46.00 ms
Jul 29 18:48:31 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 6194 events
suppressed
Jul 29 18:48:36 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 6014 events
suppressed
Jul 29 18:48:38 anne-laptop kernel: kio_thumbnail[808]: segfault at 1320 ip
00a4f1de sp bfa0848c error 4 in libgcc_s-4.4.0-20090506.so.1[a2e000+2a000]
^C
The moment of the 'Increasing wakeup watermark' message is when it started to
race and crackle.
Is this what you were expecting to see? I so, what's the workaround?
Just out of curiosity, I'll do the same experiment while playing it in
kaffeine, as I have never seen it happen there. It will be interesting to see
whether the same messages appear.
Anne
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12:36 p.m.
On Wednesday 29 July 2009 18:25:11 Antonio M wrote:
when I play a Mp3 file, Rhythmbox starts at the right speed and then
it starts very fast playing....what is going on??? who is causing this
mess??? and this is not rawhide :-(
Hah! I've just been talking to the Amarok people because I see exactly that
in Amarok. They don't know the answer.
If a gnome app and a kde one are both suffering the problem is obviously at
some lower level.
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2009/7/29 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani(a)gmail.com>:
2009/7/29 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani(a)gmail.com>:
> after latest updates, any sound application when palys streams from
> the net crashes after a short time.
> No idea what is causing such a problem
>
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ant the problem is arising also playing mp3 stream from my hard disk!!!!
Latest updates are:
Jul 28 17:25:52 Updated: freetype.i586 2.3.9-5.fc11
Jul 28 17:25:55 Updated: pango.i586 1.24.5-1.fc11
Jul 28 17:25:56 Updated: bluez-libs.i586 4.42-1.fc11
Jul 28 17:26:08 Updated: ruby-libs.i586 1.8.6.369-1.fc11
Jul 28 17:26:12 Updated: ruby.i586 1.8.6.369-1.fc11
Jul 28 17:26:35 Updated: rhythmbox.i586 0.12.3-1.fc11
Jul 28 17:26:36 Updated: libiptcdata.i586 1.0.4-1.fc11
Jul 28 17:26:42 Updated: freetype-devel.i586 2.3.9-5.fc11
Jul 28 17:26:44 Updated: pango-devel.i586 1.24.5-1.fc11
Jul 28 17:26:45 Updated: fedora-package-config-smart.i586 11-19
Jul 28 17:26:45 Updated: bluez-cups.i586 4.42-1.fc11
Jul 28 17:26:48 Updated: bluez.i586 4.42-1.fc11
Jul 28 17:27:02 Updated: gstreamer-plugins-good.i586 0.10.15-4.fc11
Jul 28 17:27:04 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-synaptics.i586 1.1.2-1.fc11
Jul 29 18:46:26 Updated: vlc-core.i586 1.0.0-1.fc11
Jul 29 18:46:27 Installed: xz-libs.i586 4.999.8-0.7.beta.fc11
Jul 29 18:46:27 Installed: xz.i586 4.999.8-0.7.beta.fc11
Jul 29 18:46:28 Installed: xz-lzma-compat.i586 4.999.8-0.7.beta.fc11
Jul 29 18:47:14 Updated: vlc.i586 1.0.0-1.fc11
Jul 29 18:47:21 Updated: rsyslog.i586 3.22.1-1.fc11
Jul 29 18:47:30 Updated: kdelibs-common.i586 6:4.2.4-6.fc11
Jul 29 18:49:32 Updated: kdelibs3.i586 3.5.10-13.fc11
Jul 29 18:50:46 Updated: kdelibs.i586 6:4.2.4-6.fc11
Jul 29 18:51:05 Erased: lzma
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when I play a Mp3 file, Rhythmbox starts at the right speed and then
it starts very fast playing....what is going on??? who is causing this
mess??? and this is not rawhide :-(
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12:21 p.m.
2009/7/29 Antonio M <antonio.montagnani(a)gmail.com>:
after latest updates, any sound application when palys streams from
the net crashes after a short time.
No idea what is causing such a problem
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ant the problem is arising also playing mp3 stream from my hard disk!!!!
Latest updates are:
Jul 28 17:25:52 Updated: freetype.i586 2.3.9-5.fc11
Jul 28 17:25:55 Updated: pango.i586 1.24.5-1.fc11
Jul 28 17:25:56 Updated: bluez-libs.i586 4.42-1.fc11
Jul 28 17:26:08 Updated: ruby-libs.i586 1.8.6.369-1.fc11
Jul 28 17:26:12 Updated: ruby.i586 1.8.6.369-1.fc11
Jul 28 17:26:35 Updated: rhythmbox.i586 0.12.3-1.fc11
Jul 28 17:26:36 Updated: libiptcdata.i586 1.0.4-1.fc11
Jul 28 17:26:42 Updated: freetype-devel.i586 2.3.9-5.fc11
Jul 28 17:26:44 Updated: pango-devel.i586 1.24.5-1.fc11
Jul 28 17:26:45 Updated: fedora-package-config-smart.i586 11-19
Jul 28 17:26:45 Updated: bluez-cups.i586 4.42-1.fc11
Jul 28 17:26:48 Updated: bluez.i586 4.42-1.fc11
Jul 28 17:27:02 Updated: gstreamer-plugins-good.i586 0.10.15-4.fc11
Jul 28 17:27:04 Updated: xorg-x11-drv-synaptics.i586 1.1.2-1.fc11
Jul 29 18:46:26 Updated: vlc-core.i586 1.0.0-1.fc11
Jul 29 18:46:27 Installed: xz-libs.i586 4.999.8-0.7.beta.fc11
Jul 29 18:46:27 Installed: xz.i586 4.999.8-0.7.beta.fc11
Jul 29 18:46:28 Installed: xz-lzma-compat.i586 4.999.8-0.7.beta.fc11
Jul 29 18:47:14 Updated: vlc.i586 1.0.0-1.fc11
Jul 29 18:47:21 Updated: rsyslog.i586 3.22.1-1.fc11
Jul 29 18:47:30 Updated: kdelibs-common.i586 6:4.2.4-6.fc11
Jul 29 18:49:32 Updated: kdelibs3.i586 3.5.10-13.fc11
Jul 29 18:50:46 Updated: kdelibs.i586 6:4.2.4-6.fc11
Jul 29 18:51:05 Erased: lzma
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12:20 p.m.
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, Antonio M wrote:
after latest updates, any sound application when palys streams from
the net crashes after a short time. No idea what is causing such a
problem
as i posted recently, a recent update seems to now play online
videos at about double normal speed and, not surprisingly, when that
happens, i get no sound either. there's no crash, just incorrect
behaviour.
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On Thursday 30 July 2009 15:12:44 Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 00:02 +0000, Mark Eggers wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:03:31 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
> > in /etc/pulse/default.pa, change the line
> >
> > load-module module-hal-detect
> >
> > to
> > load-module module-hal-detect tsched=0
Exactly what problem in pulseaudio does the above change supposed to
fix. It does not fix my problems which are that sound disappears when
playing an audio CD or viewing a video from youtube.
It doesn't fix anything in pulseaudio. It fixes an alsa bug, or at least
it's
a workaround for the also bug.
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9:12 a.m.
On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 00:02 +0000, Mark Eggers wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:03:31 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
>
> in /etc/pulse/default.pa, change the line
>
> load-module module-hal-detect
>
> to
> load-module module-hal-detect tsched=0
Exactly what problem in pulseaudio does the above change supposed to
fix. It does not fix my problems which are that sound disappears when
playing an audio CD or viewing a video from youtube.
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9:19 a.m.
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Aaron Konstam <akonstam(a)sbcglobal.net>wrote:
On Thu, 2009-07-30 at 00:02 +0000, Mark Eggers wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:03:31 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
>
> >
> > in /etc/pulse/default.pa, change the line
> >
> > load-module module-hal-detect
> >
> > to
> > load-module module-hal-detect tsched=0
Exactly what problem in pulseaudio does the above change supposed to
fix. It does not fix my problems which are that sound disappears when
playing an audio CD or viewing a video from youtube.
Lots of stuttering when using certain alsa drivers.
Are you using this version of flash?
flash-plugin-10.0.22.87
Also, you should not have any libflashsupport installed.
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7:02 p.m.
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:03:31 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
in /etc/pulse/default.pa, change the line
load-module module-hal-detect
to
load-module module-hal-detect tsched=0
And if I do this, I lose my PCI-based sound card from pulseaudio.
My hardware:
LogiTech QuickCam Pro 5000: card 0 (usb)
Intel 82801BA/BAM AC'97 : card 1 (on board)
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz CS46xx: card 2 (PCI card - my preferred card)
If I stop playback on a player (audacious for example), I lose sound when
I restart the playback. I have to exit the player to get sound back.
I have also noticed that when using audacious or rhythmbox, the stereo
link icon in the advanced volume control becomes unlinked.
There are more issues, but I have not done a systematic walk through all
of them at this point.
4:27 p.m.
On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 22:57 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
2009/7/29 Aaron Konstam <akonstam(a)sbcglobal.net>:
> On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 22:16 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
>> 2009/7/29 Anne Wilson <annew(a)kde.org>:
>> > On Wednesday 29 July 2009 20:27:03 Antonio M wrote:
>> >> Anne&Jack
>> >>
>> >> it seems that tsched=0 solves the problem also here on my desktop,
>> >> while the laptop is playing fine with the standard setup: they have
>> >> different audio chip, and I had same issues on rawhide, but seems that
>> >> nobody is taking previous issues, that happear again.Where is Leonart
>> >> Poettering, that helped me a lot in the past???? On my desktop (that
>> >> is suffering) I have a ICH5/ICH5R AC97 audio controller, while my
>> >> laptop has a 82801H (ICH8 family) HD audio controller, and same infos
>> >> were posted in my bugzilla's in the past
>> >
>> > I presume they are all Intel chipsets - mine is an ICH6. If this is now
>> > resolved upstream, it's one less problem for the future. You can't
blame
>> > Fedora for problem chipsets ;-)
>> >
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>> Anne,
>>
>> if the problem is fixed and then unfixed, I assume that something is
>> broken in the development cycle (unless you think that software
>> business is different from any other business, where bugs usually are
>> removed definitely): I have been fighting with this bug for about one
>> year since F9, do you think that it is normal??? and I am not alone,
>> if you look to the big number of bugzilla's...at the end, it seemed
>> fixed so I removed the tsched=0 option (and forgot about it), to
>> reintroduce it after six months
> People keep mentioning the tsched=0 option. Where is that option set?
>
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Aaron,
look in this thread a message by J.Craig...
Found it. But audio CDs still loose their sound when playing. I will
have to see if YouTube is fixed.
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4:03 p.m.
Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 22:16 +0200, Antonio M wrote:
> 2009/7/29 Anne Wilson <annew(a)kde.org>:
>> On Wednesday 29 July 2009 20:27:03 Antonio M wrote:
>>> Anne&Jack
>>>
>>> it seems that tsched=0 solves the problem also here on my desktop,
>>> while the laptop is playing fine with the standard setup: they have
>>> different audio chip, and I had same issues on rawhide, but seems that
>>> nobody is taking previous issues, that happear again.Where is Leonart
>>> Poettering, that helped me a lot in the past???? On my desktop (that
>>> is suffering) I have a ICH5/ICH5R AC97 audio controller, while my
>>> laptop has a 82801H (ICH8 family) HD audio controller, and same infos
>>> were posted in my bugzilla's in the past
>> I presume they are all Intel chipsets - mine is an ICH6. If this is now
>> resolved upstream, it's one less problem for the future. You can't
blame
>> Fedora for problem chipsets ;-)
>>
>> Anne
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> Anne,
>
> if the problem is fixed and then unfixed, I assume that something is
> broken in the development cycle (unless you think that software
> business is different from any other business, where bugs usually are
> removed definitely): I have been fighting with this bug for about one
> year since F9, do you think that it is normal??? and I am not alone,
> if you look to the big number of bugzilla's...at the end, it seemed
> fixed so I removed the tsched=0 option (and forgot about it), to
> reintroduce it after six months
People keep mentioning the tsched=0 option. Where is that option set?
in /etc/pulse/default.pa, change the line
load-module module-hal-detect
to
load-module module-hal-detect tsched=0
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2009/7/29 jack craig <jackc(a)linuxlighthouse.com>:
On 07/29/2009 11:01 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Wednesday 29 July 2009 18:53:15 Anne Wilson wrote:
On Wednesday 29 July 2009 18:32:52 jack craig wrote:
On 07/29/2009 10:17 AM, Antonio M wrote:
after latest updates, any sound application when palys streams from
the net crashes after a short time.
No idea what is causing such a problem
explore recent threads, look at your /var/log/messages and see if our
recent discovery is also your problem?
i have a work around if you are getting alsa bug reports in your
messages file.
hth, jackc...
How about a clue, Jack? So much hokum has been talked that I've been
skipping the sound threads, particularly as everything else plays
correctly. I thought or a moment that I was going to get a whole track
played (my problem is in amarok, but exactly the same as the rhythmbox
one). This is what happened:
Jul 29 18:45:33 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 7106 events
suppressed
Jul 29 18:45:33 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing
minimal latency to 56.00 ms
Jul 29 18:48:26 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing
wakeup watermark to 46.00 ms
Jul 29 18:48:31 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 6194 events
suppressed
Jul 29 18:48:36 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 6014 events
suppressed
Jul 29 18:48:38 anne-laptop kernel: kio_thumbnail[808]: segfault at 1320 ip
00a4f1de sp bfa0848c error 4 in libgcc_s-4.4.0-20090506.so.1[a2e000+2a000]
^C
The moment of the 'Increasing wakeup watermark' message is when it started
to race and crackle.
Is this what you were expecting to see? I so, what's the workaround?
Just out of curiosity, I'll do the same experiment while playing it in
kaffeine, as I have never seen it happen there. It will be interesting to
see whether the same messages appear.
Yes, in kaffeine the same thing happened. Everything was going swimmingly
until
Jul 29 18:58:51 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 4191 events
suppressed
Jul 29 18:58:51 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: alsa-sink.c: Increasing
wakeup
watermark to 56.00 ms
Jul 29 18:58:56 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 6390 events
suppressed
Jul 29 18:59:01 anne-laptop pulseaudio[26616]: ratelimit.c: 5688 events
suppressed
So it's an alsa bug?
Anne
sorry, i didnt want to pollute the group with WAG's if its not the same
issue.
see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514213
for defect details.
this is apparently fixed in the mainline and due next release.
i am curious if you dont also get the messages entry about the alsa bug for
snd_pcm_delay() ?
anyway, the fix that worked for me, posted earlier, ...
to disable the g-f feature. do this, in
/etc/pulse/default.pa,
change, ...
load-module module-hal-detect
to
load-module module-hal-detect tsched=0
kill off the existing pulseaudio daemon so it restarts and reads the config
update.
hth, jackc...
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what surprises me that this is a recurrent problem, that should not
happen any more: when a defect is so recurrent may be become
structural and kill any hope of spreading the software...I am ready to
forgive rawhide, not F11.
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