X server Keeps crashing.

[Derek Tattersall]

I am trying to install FC3 on a Sony PCG-SRX77 laptop, and I cannot get
the X window system to work. I had Redhat 8.2 on it, and it worked fine.

The graphics chip claims to be an Intel 815.

I managed to get through the first part of the install process by using
the text based install, but when that finishes, and the laptop reboots
to complete the install process, I just get junk on the screen and
sometimes  everything hangs, sometimes the X server seems to be going
through a continuous process of starting and crashing and writing junk
on the screen.


Can anyone suggest a way to get this to work?

I think this would sort of work if I could force the FC3 install process
to use the VESA X-server. Is there a way to tell the installer and the X
configure process to do that?

Sorry for the somewhat imprecise problem description, but this isn't
even getting far enough for me to get at any logs or error message.

Thanks

Derek

[Michael A. Peters]

On 12/03/2004 07:37:26 PM, Derek Tattersall wrote:

>  the text based install, but when that finishes, and the laptop  
>  reboots 
Try booting to cli instead of gui, and use yum to update X11 and the  
kernel, there are updates to both - maybe they solve your issue (I  
don't know).

But if you can get it installed, try that.

[Derek Tattersall]

On Fri, 2004-12-03 at 23:24, Michael A. Peters wrote:
>  On 12/03/2004 07:37:26 PM, Derek Tattersall wrote:
>  
>  > the text based install, but when that finishes, and the laptop  
>  > reboots
>  
>  Try booting to cli instead of gui, and use yum to update X11 and the  
>  kernel, there are updates to both - maybe they solve your issue (I  
>  don't know).
>  
>  But if you can get it installed, try that.
>   
How do I do that?

X server Keeps crashing. (rhgb 815 video)

[Jim Cornette]

Derek Tattersall wrote:
>  I am trying to install FC3 on a Sony PCG-SRX77 laptop, and I cannot
> get
>  the X window system to work. I had Redhat 8.2 on it, and it worked fine.
>  
>  The graphics chip claims to be an Intel 815.
>  
>  I managed to get through the first part of the install process by using
>  the text based install, but when that finishes, and the laptop reboots
>  to complete the install process, I just get junk on the screen and
>  sometimes  everything hangs, sometimes the X server seems to be going
>  through a continuous process of starting and crashing and writing junk
>  on the screen.
>  
>  
>  Can anyone suggest a way to get this to work? 
Refer to this bug report for information on adding Option "Noaccel" to 
xorg.conf file. The problem that you are seeing is due to breakage for 
the i810 driver, which is used by your card.

After upgrading to the latest xorg-x11 version, maybe the option would 
not be needed and can be removed. It worked on a system that I have and 
even seems to be a better driver than it was previously.

I just posted a question regarding the upgrades to xorg-x11. If you can 
report your experience, it would be helpful to confirm or argue against 
the latest version removing the horrible refresh problem for this chipset.

Jim
>  
>  I think this would sort of work if I could force the FC3 install process
>  to use the VESA X-server. Is there a way to tell the installer and the X
>  configure process to do that? 
The vesa driver only shows diagonal lines on my system. I don't know if 
it would work at all for the 815 video card.

>  
>  Sorry for the somewhat imprecise problem description, but this isn't
>  even getting far enough for me to get at any logs or error message. 
Try booting into runlevel 3 and start x using startx instead. There is 
also a problem related to rhgb on new installs. Updates seem to resolve 
the rhgb issue and *hopefully* the refresh problem as well.

Jim

>  
>  Thanks
>  
>  Derek
>   

-- 
Weinberg's First Law:
	Progress is only made on alternate Fridays.

X server Keeps crashing. (rhgb 815 video)

[Jim Cornette]

Jim Cornette wrote:
>  Derek Tattersall wrote:
>  
> > I am trying to install FC3 on a Sony PCG-SRX77 laptop, and I cannot get
> > the X window system to work. I had Redhat 8.2 on it, and it worked fine.
> >
> > The graphics chip claims to be an Intel 815.
> >
> > I managed to get through the first part of the install process by using
> > the text based install, but when that finishes, and the laptop reboots
> > to complete the install process, I just get junk on the screen and
> > sometimes  everything hangs, sometimes the X server seems to be going
> > through a continuous process of starting and crashing and writing junk
> > on the screen.
> >
> >
> > Can anyone suggest a way to get this to work?
>  
>  
>  Refer to this bug report for information on adding Option "Noaccel" to 
>  xorg.conf file. The problem that you are seeing is due to breakage for 
>  the i810 driver, which is used by your card. 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=132267

Forgot bug link.

-- 
Weinberg's First Law:
	Progress is only made on alternate Fridays.

X server Keeps crashing. (rhgb 815 video)

[Derek Tattersall]

On Sat, 2004-12-04 at 12:44, Jim Cornette wrote:
>  
>  Refer to this bug report for information on adding Option "Noaccel" to 
>  xorg.conf file. The problem that you are seeing is due to breakage for 
>  the i810 driver, which is used by your card.
>  
>  After upgrading to the latest xorg-x11 version, maybe the option would 
>  not be needed and can be removed. It worked on a system that I have and 
>  even seems to be a better driver than it was previously.
>  
>  I just posted a question regarding the upgrades to xorg-x11. If you can 
>  report your experience, it would be helpful to confirm or argue against 
>  the latest version removing the horrible refresh problem for this chipset.
>   
I have it working now, sort of.

I had to boot up with the rescue disk and edit the inittab to get it to
boot in CLI mode (level 3). Once I did that, I ran yum update and got
all the upgrades. Then my wireless card stopped working, but one thing
at a time. After rebooting, I managed to get the X server to start. I
had to add the noaccel option and set the resolution and color depth by
hand because system-config-display guessed incorrect values. For some
reason I can only get it to work in 16 bit mode, although it works in 24
bit mode with WinXP.


>  The vesa driver only shows diagonal lines on my system. I don't
> know if 
>  it would work at all for the 815 video card.
>   
I have it working with the i810 driver now.

>  
>  -- 
>  Weinberg's First Law:
>  	Progress is only made on alternate Fridays. 
And this has been one of them.


Thanks.

Derek

X server Keeps crashing. (rhgb 815 video)

[Jim Cornette]

Derek Tattersall wrote:

>  
>  I have it working now, sort of.
>  
>  I had to boot up with the rescue disk and edit the inittab to get it to
>  boot in CLI mode (level 3). Once I did that, I ran yum update and got
>  all the upgrades. Then my wireless card stopped working, but one thing
>  at a time. After rebooting, I managed to get the X server to start. I
>  had to add the noaccel option and set the resolution and color depth by
>  hand because system-config-display guessed incorrect values. For some
>  reason I can only get it to work in 16 bit mode, although it works in 24
>  bit mode with WinXP. 
I've been running my machine at 24 bit with no problems for awhile. I 
had problems earlier with 16 bit that did not effect the 24 bit mode the 
same way. One of the problems was that the refresh problem shoed up in 
16 bit and not in 24 bit resolution.
Anyway, I guess I got lucky with not having to add noaccel to the newer 
X versions. There are different revisions for this 815 chip and they 
seem to be different enough to give different results with different 
implementations being tested.

I seem to remember someone else reported troubles with 24 bit mode 
causing troubles while it actually helped out to reduce my X server 
problems.

Jim

>  
>  
>  
> >The vesa driver only shows diagonal lines on my system. I don't know if 
> >it would work at all for the 815 video card.
> >
>  
>  
>  I have it working with the i810 driver now.
>  
>  
> >-- 
> >Weinberg's First Law:
> >	Progress is only made on alternate Fridays.
>  
>  
>  And this has been one of them.
>  
>  
>  Thanks.
>  
>  Derek
>