Canadian Spell Check & English (Canadian) language

[Bill Case]

Hi.

Having a problem setting up Fedora to find and installing a dictionary
for Canadian English.

I would like to work with an English(US) keyboard.  An English(US or
Canadian) format, but want to spellcheck for English(Can).  I have
searched and googled with no luck.  

The American dictionary is used by programs that I have like LibreOffice
and Evolution.  I would like to be able to turn on a Canadian spell
check.  However, I have configured Firefox to spellcheck.  When I use
Facebook comments no spellchecking even in American English in the
comments takes place.

All suggestions greatly received.

-- 
Regards William Case,
Fedora 19, Gnome 3.8.4,
Evo 3.8.5, Emacs 24x.

[Ahmad Samir]

On 19 August 2013 02:03, Bill Case <billlinux(a)rogers.com&gt; wrote:

>  On Sun, 2013-08-18 at 23:45 +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
>  > On 18 August 2013 16:58, Heinz Diehl <htd(a)fritha.org&gt; wrote:
>  > > On 18.08.2013, Peter Gueckel wrote:
>  > >
>  > >> In KDE settings, you can set the spellcheck language to Canadian and
>  > >> the keyboard to English(US). Libreoffice and Firefox have a Canadian
>  > >> English option. I don't think these are dedicated dictionaries for
>  > >> Canadian spelling
>  > >
>  > > As far as I know, Libreoffice uses aspell for
>  > > spell-checking. Currently, there's no canadian aspell lib.
>  > >
>  >
>  > By the way, for general spellcheck (e.g. thunderbird, kwrite) I think
>  > hunspell-en is what you'd need, it seems hunspell libraries replace
>  > aspell on recent Fedora (e.g. I had to add hunspell-en-GB, en-US is
>  > default, the other English libraries are collected in plain en).
>  > Though Libreoffice writer here seems to offer Canadian and other
>  > English variants without that installed.
>  >
>  > --
>  > imalone
>  > http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk
>
>  FYI,  I got LibreOffice to spell check Canadian English by installing
>  every hunspell-eng package I could find in the Fedora repo.  I am not
>  sure which is responsible.  I then selected English(Canada) in spelling
>  in LibreOffice options.  It looks like I now have everything working and
>  spell checking correctly.  I don't think there is a specific Canadian
>  English dictionary in aspell or hunspell but some programming that
>  identifies Canadian spellings using both UK and US dictionaries.
>
>  
There is a separate en_CA dictionary:

$ rpm -ql hunspell-en | grep CA
/usr/share/doc/hunspell-en-0.20121024/README_en_CA.txt
/usr/share/myspell/en_CA.aff
/usr/share/myspell/en_CA.dic

-- 
Ahmad Samir

[Marko Vojinovic]

On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 09:12:36 -0600
Peter Gueckel <pgueckel(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  
>  What are Canadian spellings?
>  
>  Mostly, we use British, as in -our in colour, -ou as in moustache, -
>  oeu as in manoeuvre, -re as in centre and we follow the rule about 
>  doubling the last consonant of a word that ends in a vowel followed 
>  by a consonant when adding a suffix that begins with a vowel, such as 
>  travelled and tunnelling. But do people use foetus, diarrhoea, 
>  mediaeval and encyclopaedia? Not likely.
>  
>  There doesn't appear to be an official language policy and the 
>  majority of computer users don't know how to set their word processor 
>  programs to Canadian, or don't care. I have seen spellings that are 
>  blatantly American in governmental communications and the Canadian 
>  media. 
   http://xkcd.com/1238/

Best, :-)
Marko

[Bill Case]

On Sun, 2013-08-18 at 23:45 +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
>  On 18 August 2013 16:58, Heinz Diehl <htd(a)fritha.org&gt; wrote:
>  > On 18.08.2013, Peter Gueckel wrote:
>  >
>  >> In KDE settings, you can set the spellcheck language to Canadian and
>  >> the keyboard to English(US). Libreoffice and Firefox have a Canadian
>  >> English option. I don't think these are dedicated dictionaries for
>  >> Canadian spelling
>  >
>  > As far as I know, Libreoffice uses aspell for
>  > spell-checking. Currently, there's no canadian aspell lib.
>  >
>  
>  By the way, for general spellcheck (e.g. thunderbird, kwrite) I think
>  hunspell-en is what you'd need, it seems hunspell libraries replace
>  aspell on recent Fedora (e.g. I had to add hunspell-en-GB, en-US is
>  default, the other English libraries are collected in plain en).
>  Though Libreoffice writer here seems to offer Canadian and other
>  English variants without that installed.
>  
>  -- 
>  imalone
>  http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk 
FYI,  I got LibreOffice to spell check Canadian English by installing
every hunspell-eng package I could find in the Fedora repo.  I am not
sure which is responsible.  I then selected English(Canada) in spelling
in LibreOffice options.  It looks like I now have everything working and
spell checking correctly.  I don't think there is a specific Canadian
English dictionary in aspell or hunspell but some programming that
identifies Canadian spellings using both UK and US dictionaries. 

-- 
Regards William Case,
Fedora 19, Gnome 3.8.4,
Evo 3.8.5, Emacs 24x.

[Ian Malone]

On 18 August 2013 16:58, Heinz Diehl <htd(a)fritha.org&gt; wrote:
>  On 18.08.2013, Peter Gueckel wrote:
>
> > In KDE settings, you can set the spellcheck language to Canadian and
> > the keyboard to English(US). Libreoffice and Firefox have a Canadian
> > English option. I don't think these are dedicated dictionaries for
> > Canadian spelling
>
>  As far as I know, Libreoffice uses aspell for
>  spell-checking. Currently, there's no canadian aspell lib.
>  
By the way, for general spellcheck (e.g. thunderbird, kwrite) I think
hunspell-en is what you'd need, it seems hunspell libraries replace
aspell on recent Fedora (e.g. I had to add hunspell-en-GB, en-US is
default, the other English libraries are collected in plain en).
Though Libreoffice writer here seems to offer Canadian and other
English variants without that installed.

-- 
imalone
http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk

[Bill Case]

On Sun, 2013-08-18 at 12:02 -0400, Bill Case wrote:
>  On Sun, 2013-08-18 at 16:12 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>  > On 08/18/13 14:51, Bill Case wrote:
>  > > Hi.
>  > >
>  > > Having a problem setting up Fedora to find and installing a dictionary
>  > > for Canadian English.
>  
>  > 
>  > I suppose the first thing I'd check is to ensure your LANG environment variable
> is set to en_CA.UTF-8
>  
>  Thanks Ed.  That was the problem.  I am getting older every year.  I
>  haven't messed about with Fedora four three or four years.  I am
>  starting to forget stuff.
>  
>  I am taking time to respond because I notice other people with the
>  Canadian English problem.  The env LANG=en_CA.UTF-8 was the forgotten
>  first place to look.   
 An additional comment.  It seems gnome 3 is not picking up
the en_CA in
the env.  Changing the locale through dconf-editor to en_CA.UTF-8
captures the the language for gnome applications such as evolution.  I
had to set the spell checker for the compose widow as a preference, but
now all the English varieties and flavours were there to choose from. 

-- 
Regards William Case,
Fedora 19, Gnome 3.8.4,
Evo 3.8.5, Emacs 24x.

[Bill Case]

On Sun, 2013-08-18 at 16:12 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
>  On 08/18/13 14:51, Bill Case wrote:
>  > Hi.
>  >
>  > Having a problem setting up Fedora to find and installing a dictionary
>  > for Canadian English. 
>  
>  I suppose the first thing I'd check is to ensure your LANG environment variable is
> set to en_CA.UTF-8 
Thanks Ed.  That was the problem.  I am getting older every year.  I
haven't messed about with Fedora four three or four years.  I am
starting to forget stuff.

I am taking time to respond because I notice other people with the
Canadian English problem.  The env LANG=en_CA.UTF-8 was the forgotten
first place to look.  

-- 
Regards William Case,
Fedora 19, Gnome 3.8.4,
Evo 3.8.5, Emacs 24x.

[Heinz Diehl]

On 18.08.2013, Peter Gueckel wrote: 

>  In KDE settings, you can set the spellcheck language to Canadian and
>
>  the keyboard to English(US). Libreoffice and Firefox have a Canadian 
>  English option. I don't think these are dedicated dictionaries for 
>  Canadian spelling 
As far as I know, Libreoffice uses aspell for
spell-checking. Currently, there's no canadian aspell lib.

[Peter G.]

Bill Case wrote:

>  Hi.
>  
>  Having a problem setting up Fedora to find and installing a  
dictionary
>  for Canadian English.
>  
>  I would like to work with an English(US) keyboard.  An English(US  
or
>  Canadian) format, but want to spellcheck for English(Can).  I have
>  searched and googled with no luck.
>  
>  The American dictionary is used by programs that I have like  
LibreOffice
>  and Evolution.  I would like to be able to turn on a Canadian spell
>  check.  However, I have configured Firefox to spellcheck.  When I  
use
>  Facebook comments no spellchecking even in American English in the
>  comments takes place.
>  
>  All suggestions greatly received.
>   
In KDE settings, you can set the spellcheck language to Canadian and 
the keyboard to English(US). Libreoffice and Firefox have a Canadian 
English option. I don't think these are dedicated dictionaries for 
Canadian spelling, but they might be a set of rules and exceptions 
that attempt to describe the muddled language situation here.

What are Canadian spellings?

Mostly, we use British, as in -our in colour, -ou as in moustache, -
oeu as in manoeuvre, -re as in centre and we follow the rule about 
doubling the last consonant of a word that ends in a vowel followed 
by a consonant when adding a suffix that begins with a vowel, such as 
travelled and tunnelling. But do people use foetus, diarrhoea, 
mediaeval and encyclopaedia? Not likely.

There doesn't appear to be an official language policy and the 
majority of computer users don't know how to set their word processor 
programs to Canadian, or don't care. I have seen spellings that are 
blatantly American in governmental communications and the Canadian 
media.

For my part, I have begun to simply accept the US English defaults 
(one less thing to set up) and continue to spell the way I know is 
correct, even when the spellchecker tells me otherwise.

[Ed Greshko]

On 08/18/13 14:51, Bill Case wrote:
>  Hi.
>
>  Having a problem setting up Fedora to find and installing a dictionary
>  for Canadian English.
>
>  I would like to work with an English(US) keyboard.  An English(US or
>  Canadian) format, but want to spellcheck for English(Can).  I have
>  searched and googled with no luck.  
>
>  The American dictionary is used by programs that I have like LibreOffice
>  and Evolution.  I would like to be able to turn on a Canadian spell
>  check.  However, I have configured Firefox to spellcheck.  When I use
>  Facebook comments no spellchecking even in American English in the
>  comments takes place.
>
>  All suggestions greatly received.
>  
I suppose the first thing I'd check is to ensure your LANG environment variable is set
to en_CA.UTF-8


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