8 a.m.
Dear All,
Which version of imp is good for work with FC6 ?
Include which version of php and mysql ?
Edward.
11:30 a.m.
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 22:00 +0800, edwardspl(a)ita.org.mo wrote:
Dear All,
Which version of imp is good for work with FC6 ?
Include which version of php and mysql ?
You mean Horde/IMP (the webmail service)? If so, just install the
squirrelmail RPMs. It's danged near the same thing (even based on the
same code base, I believe).
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11:36 a.m.
Rick Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 22:00 +0800, edwardspl(a)ita.org.mo wrote:
>Dear All,
>
>Which version of imp is good for work with FC6 ?
>Include which version of php and mysql ?
You mean Horde/IMP (the webmail service)? If so, just install the
squirrelmail RPMs. It's danged near the same thing (even based on the
same code base, I believe).
Q: Hey, I want a pizza!
A: Just get a sandwich, they're both basically bread.
P.D.: I hope the irony is understood.
Martín
11:42 a.m.
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 14:36 -0300, Martin A. Marques wrote:
Rick Stevens wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 22:00 +0800, edwardspl(a)ita.org.mo wrote:
>
>>Dear All,
>>
>>Which version of imp is good for work with FC6 ?
>>Include which version of php and mysql ?
>
>
> You mean Horde/IMP (the webmail service)? If so, just install the
> squirrelmail RPMs. It's danged near the same thing (even based on the
> same code base, I believe).
Q: Hey, I want a pizza!
A: Just get a sandwich, they're both basically bread.
P.D.: I hope the irony is understood.
Yeah, I get it. Have you ever configured Horde/IMP? I haven't in a
while, but it would've caused a newbies brain to explode. It appeared
he didn't want the whole Horde menagerie (turba, kronolith, nag, etc.),
just IMP (webmail). For a newbie, squirrelmail will do the job very
nicely and is pretty easy to configure.
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- VitalStream, Inc. http://www.vitalstream.com -
- -
- LOOK OUT!!! BEHIND YOU!!! -
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11:46 a.m.
Rick Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 14:36 -0300, Martin A. Marques wrote:
Yeah, I get it. Have you ever configured Horde/IMP? I haven't in a
while, but it would've caused a newbies brain to explode. It appeared
he didn't want the whole Horde menagerie (turba, kronolith, nag, etc.),
just IMP (webmail). For a newbie, squirrelmail will do the job very
nicely and is pretty easy to configure.
It has been a while for you. :-)
Newer Horde/IMP versions come with a very nice web administration, so
it's easy to configure and maintain.
Martín
5:56 p.m.
Martin A. Marques wrote:
Rick Stevens wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 14:36 -0300, Martin A. Marques wrote:
>
> Yeah, I get it. Have you ever configured Horde/IMP? I haven't in a
> while, but it would've caused a newbies brain to explode. It appeared
> he didn't want the whole Horde menagerie (turba, kronolith, nag, etc.),
> just IMP (webmail). For a newbie, squirrelmail will do the job very
> nicely and is pretty easy to configure.
It has been a while for you. :-)
Newer Horde/IMP versions come with a very nice web administration, so
it's easy to configure and maintain.
Mart璯
Hello,
So, which version ( www.horder.org/imp ) is suitable for it ?
Edward.
6:47 p.m.
edwardspl(a)ita.org.mo escribió:
Martin A. Marques wrote:
So, which version ( www.horder.org/imp ) is suitable for it ?
Which version is sutable for what?
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6:49 p.m.
Martin Marques wrote:
edwardspl(a)ita.org.mo escribió:
> Martin A. Marques wrote:
>
>
> So, which version ( www.horder.org/imp ) is suitable for it ?
Which version is sutable for what?
The OP is asking "Which version of imp is suitable for use with FC6".
FWIW, I don't know the answer since I don't use imp.
--
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But Charlie is no more.
For what he thought was H2O,
Was H2SO4.
6:29 a.m.
Ed Greshko wrote:
Martin Marques wrote:
> edwardspl(a)ita.org.mo escribió:
> Which version is sutable for what?
>
The OP is asking "Which version of imp is suitable for use with FC6".
FWIW, I don't know the answer since I don't use imp.
Sorry. :-)
Get the latest stable version from www.horde.org
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6:32 a.m.
Martin Marques wrote:
Ed Greshko wrote:
> Martin Marques wrote:
>
>> edwardspl(a)ita.org.mo escribi籀:
>> Which version is sutable for what?
>>
>
> The OP is asking "Which version of imp is suitable for use with FC6".
> FWIW, I don't know the answer since I don't use imp.
Sorry. :-)
Get the latest stable version from www.horde.org
Hello,
1, 4.1 / 4.0 ?
2, how about the mysql also ?
Edward.
6:39 a.m.
edwardspl(a)ita.org.mo wrote:
Martin Marques wrote:
>
> Get the latest stable version from www.horde.org
>
Hello,
1, 4.1 / 4.0 ?
Horde 3.1.3 and IMP 4.1.3.
2, how about the mysql also ?
Use MySQL that comes in FC6.
Or even better: Use PostgreSQL! :-P
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6:57 a.m.
Martin Marques wrote:
edwardspl(a)ita.org.mo wrote:
> Martin Marques wrote:
>
>>
>> Get the latest stable version from www.horde.org
>>
> Hello,
>
> 1, 4.1 / 4.0 ?
Horde 3.1.3 and IMP 4.1.3.
> 2, how about the mysql also ?
Use MySQL that comes in FC6.
Or even better: Use PostgreSQL! :-P
Hello,
Did you means the mysql and php comes in FC6 ( without update from
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/6/i386/ ) ?
Edward.
7:23 a.m.
edwardspl(a)ita.org.mo wrote:
Did you means the mysql and php comes in FC6 ( without update from
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/6/i386/ ) ?
Never!
Always apply updates, as lots of them are because of security reasons.
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7:47 a.m.
Martin Marques wrote:
edwardspl(a)ita.org.mo wrote:
>
> Did you means the mysql and php comes in FC6 ( without update from
> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/6/i386/
> ) ?
Never!
Always apply updates, as lots of them are because of security reasons.
So, after update all packages, then install the horde and imp ?
8:08 a.m.
edwardspl(a)ita.org.mo wrote:
Martin Marques wrote:
> edwardspl(a)ita.org.mo wrote:
>
>> Did you means the mysql and php comes in FC6 ( without update from
>> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/6/i386/
>> ) ?
>
> Never!
>
> Always apply updates, as lots of them are because of security reasons.
>
So, after update all packages, then install the horde and imp ?
I would say that that's the best option.
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5:34 a.m.
Dear All,
So, which version of php + mysql + horde + imp are you using with FC6
System ?
Edward.
7:13 a.m.
Martin Marques wrote:
edwardspl(a)ita.org.mo wrote:
> Martin Marques wrote:
>
>> edwardspl(a)ita.org.mo wrote:
>>
>>> Did you means the mysql and php comes in FC6 ( without update from
>>> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/6/i386/
>>>
>>> ) ?
>>
>>
>> Never!
>>
>> Always apply updates, as lots of them are because of security reasons.
>>
> So, after update all packages, then install the horde and imp ?
>
I would say that that's the best option.
Hello,
So, Which version of them ( horde and imp ) are you using ?
Edward.
7:36 a.m.
edwardspl(a)ita.org.mo escribió:
Martin Marques wrote:
> I would say that that's the best option.
>
Hello,
So, Which version of them ( horde and imp ) are you using ?
I already told you. Get the latest stable releases from www.horde.org.
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5:55 a.m.
Martin Marques wrote:
edwardspl(a)ita.org.mo escribi籀:
> Martin A. Marques wrote:
>
>
> So, which version ( www.horder.org/imp ) is suitable for it ?
Which version is sutable for what?
Which version of them ( php + mysql + horde + imp ) are suitable for FC6 ?
7:13 p.m.
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 07:56 +0800, edwardspl(a)ita.org.mo wrote:
Martin A. Marques wrote:
> Rick Stevens wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 14:36 -0300, Martin A. Marques wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, I get it. Have you ever configured Horde/IMP? I haven't in a
>> while, but it would've caused a newbies brain to explode. It appeared
>> he didn't want the whole Horde menagerie (turba, kronolith, nag, etc.),
>> just IMP (webmail). For a newbie, squirrelmail will do the job very
>> nicely and is pretty easy to configure.
>
>
> It has been a while for you. :-)
>
> Newer Horde/IMP versions come with a very nice web administration, so
> it's easy to configure and maintain.
>
> Mart璯
>
Hello,
So, which version ( www.horder.org/imp ) is suitable for it ?
----
use the latest stable (something like 4.1.3)
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5:56 a.m.
Craig White wrote:
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 07:56 +0800, edwardspl(a)ita.org.mo wrote:
>Martin A. Marques wrote:
>
>
>
>>Rick Stevens wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 14:36 -0300, Martin A. Marques wrote:
>>>
>>>Yeah, I get it. Have you ever configured Horde/IMP? I haven't in a
>>>while, but it would've caused a newbies brain to explode. It appeared
>>>he didn't want the whole Horde menagerie (turba, kronolith, nag, etc.),
>>>just IMP (webmail). For a newbie, squirrelmail will do the job very
>>>nicely and is pretty easy to configure.
>>>
>>>
>>It has been a while for you. :-)
>>
>>Newer Horde/IMP versions come with a very nice web administration, so
>>it's easy to configure and maintain.
>>
>>Mart??
>>
>>
>>
>Hello,
>
>So, which version ( www.horder.org/imp ) is suitable for it ?
>
>
----
use the latest stable (something like 4.1.3)
Hello,
Which packages ?
Edward.
10:22 p.m.
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 14:46 -0300, Martin A. Marques wrote:
Rick Stevens wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 14:36 -0300, Martin A. Marques wrote:
>
> Yeah, I get it. Have you ever configured Horde/IMP? I haven't in a
> while, but it would've caused a newbies brain to explode. It appeared
> he didn't want the whole Horde menagerie (turba, kronolith, nag, etc.),
> just IMP (webmail). For a newbie, squirrelmail will do the job very
> nicely and is pretty easy to configure.
It has been a while for you. :-)
Newer Horde/IMP versions come with a very nice web administration, so
it's easy to configure and maintain.
Wasn't "IMP" the name for a CP/M file up/dnload program by Irv Hoff? I
spoke with him on the phone just a few weeks before he died. He did a
bunch of work on file transfer protocols and it seemed that he got zilch
credit for his work in the Histories of Notable Contributions to all
things modem related. Now someone ripped his package name off? <sigh> Is
"Nothing" sacred? Ric
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10:26 p.m.
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 23:22 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 14:46 -0300, Martin A. Marques wrote:
> Rick Stevens wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 14:36 -0300, Martin A. Marques wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, I get it. Have you ever configured Horde/IMP? I haven't in a
> > while, but it would've caused a newbies brain to explode. It appeared
> > he didn't want the whole Horde menagerie (turba, kronolith, nag, etc.),
> > just IMP (webmail). For a newbie, squirrelmail will do the job very
> > nicely and is pretty easy to configure.
>
> It has been a while for you. :-)
>
> Newer Horde/IMP versions come with a very nice web administration, so
> it's easy to configure and maintain.
Wasn't "IMP" the name for a CP/M file up/dnload program by Irv Hoff? I
spoke with him on the phone just a few weeks before he died. He did a
bunch of work on file transfer protocols and it seemed that he got zilch
credit for his work in the Histories of Notable Contributions to all
things modem related. Now someone ripped his package name off? <sigh> Is
"Nothing" sacred? Ric
----
IMP (Internet Messaging Program) - reasonable acronym
Last I heard, there were over 60 different registered songs with the
title 'Yesterday'
Craig
1:37 a.m.
New subject: IMP and FC6 System <OT>
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 21:26 -0700, Craig White wrote:
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 23:22 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 14:46 -0300, Martin A. Marques wrote:
> > Rick Stevens wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 14:36 -0300, Martin A. Marques wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah, I get it. Have you ever configured Horde/IMP? I haven't in a
> > > while, but it would've caused a newbies brain to explode. It
appeared
> > > he didn't want the whole Horde menagerie (turba, kronolith, nag,
etc.),
> > > just IMP (webmail). For a newbie, squirrelmail will do the job very
> > > nicely and is pretty easy to configure.
> >
> > It has been a while for you. :-)
> >
> > Newer Horde/IMP versions come with a very nice web administration, so
> > it's easy to configure and maintain.
>
> Wasn't "IMP" the name for a CP/M file up/dnload program by Irv Hoff?
I
> spoke with him on the phone just a few weeks before he died. He did a
> bunch of work on file transfer protocols and it seemed that he got zilch
> credit for his work in the Histories of Notable Contributions to all
> things modem related. Now someone ripped his package name off? <sigh> Is
> "Nothing" sacred? Ric
----
IMP (Internet Messaging Program) - reasonable acronym
Sure it's reasonable to folks who don't feel like ole Irv deserves
anything. Why not? He's dead anyways. Right? He sure couldn't complain.
Last I heard, there were over 60 different registered songs with the
title 'Yesterday'
As long as the credits are intact to the original "Yesterday" no
problem. Snatch the title to use on different lyrics and melody and see
just how fast McCartney and ASCAP sues, if the fish is big enough.
I checked on the net and IMP for CP/M is still being distributed and
attributed to Irv Hoff. Someone clearly doesn't know the history of
telecommunications or even did a google on the name "IMP". I hate to
think someone did do their google homework and decided to use that
"reasonable acronym" anyway, since it's so "snappy". It originally
stood
for "Improved Modem Program".
Maybe the only reason the name hasn't been used before is because that
application by him has endured in the hearts of old CP/M users, who
aren't (thankfully) dead yet and has been, until now, tactfully put off
limits.
When I spoke with him, he was dying of cancer, no one was calling him
and he knew his time was short in this world. He wanted to be remembered
and felt like he was already forgotten. Sad as hell. I talked to him for
several hours, back when LD was expensive as heck. I thanked him
profusely for his work and we swapped war stories about monumental phone
bills, which seemed to cheer him up some. Irv's contributions were
improvements to Xmodem and Ymodem and giving away IMP for everyone to
use, back in 1986 when a 2400 baud modem was hot shit and so was the
$500 1986 dollars that it cost to get one. It was a bargain as the rule
of thumb was a buck-a-baud. $300 for a 300 baud DC Hayes.
http://www.guntersville.net/osborne/library/122/imp-ovl.lst
http://www.retroarchive.org/cpm/cdrom/CPMINFO/CPM-CC12.ART
Old school. Memories. <sigh> I propose that if the Horde group would
acknowledge Irv and dedicate Horde / IMP to his memory, I'd hail that as
the "Right Thing" to do. Just my two cents worth, Ric
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6 a.m.
New subject: IMP and FC6 System <OT>
Ric Moore kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika perjantai, 2.
maaliskuuta 2007):
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 21:26 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> IMP (Internet Messaging Program) - reasonable acronym
Sure it's reasonable to folks who don't feel like ole Irv
deserves anything. Why not? He's dead anyways. Right? He sure
couldn't complain.
The first use of acronym IMP in computer communications was the
Interface Message Processor, the packet switch for early
Arpanet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interface_Message_Processor
http://www.livinginternet.com/i/ii_imp.htm
First IMPs went on-line late 1969, 4 years before the first
version of CP/M booted.
Irv Hoff deserves the credit for his communication program, but
not for the TLA he re-used as its name.
--
Markku Kolkka
markku.kolkka(a)iki.fi
8:46 p.m.
New subject: IMP and FC6 System <OT>
On Sat, 2007-03-03 at 14:00 +0200, Markku Kolkka wrote:
Ric Moore kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika perjantai, 2.
maaliskuuta 2007):
> On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 21:26 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> > IMP (Internet Messaging Program) - reasonable acronym
>
> Sure it's reasonable to folks who don't feel like ole Irv
> deserves anything. Why not? He's dead anyways. Right? He sure
> couldn't complain.
The first use of acronym IMP in computer communications was the
Interface Message Processor, the packet switch for early
Arpanet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interface_Message_Processor
http://www.livinginternet.com/i/ii_imp.htm
First IMPs went on-line late 1969, 4 years before the first
version of CP/M booted.
Irv Hoff deserves the credit for his communication program, but
not for the TLA he re-used as its name.
Thanks for the heads up, I stand corrected.
:) Ric
--
================================================
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"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
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9:47 a.m.
New subject: IMP and FC6 System <OT>
On Fri, 2007-03-02 at 02:37 -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 21:26 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> Last I heard, there were over 60 different registered songs with
the
> title 'Yesterday'
As long as the credits are intact to the original "Yesterday" no
problem. Snatch the title to use on different lyrics and melody and see
just how fast McCartney and ASCAP sues, if the fish is big enough.
----
that's just it...they can't do anything about it. New songs with the
title "Yesterday" are released almost every year. Song titles and movie
titles cannot be registered as either trademarks or copyrights.
Craig
10:24 p.m.
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 09:42 -0800, Rick Stevens wrote:
> > You mean Horde/IMP (the webmail service)? If so, just
install the
> > squirrelmail RPMs. It's danged near the same thing (even based on the
> > same code base, I believe).
>
> Q: Hey, I want a pizza!
> A: Just get a sandwich, they're both basically bread.
>
> P.D.: I hope the irony is understood.
Yeah, I get it. Have you ever configured Horde/IMP? I haven't in a
while, but it would've caused a newbies brain to explode. It appeared
he didn't want the whole Horde menagerie (turba, kronolith, nag, etc.),
just IMP (webmail). For a newbie, squirrelmail will do the job very
nicely and is pretty easy to configure.
----
I think you are doing a severe disservice to Horde/IMP.
If all you want is web driven IMAP service for your users, squirrelmail
is easier.
Horde/IMP/et al. is far more ambitious in that it provides a robust
groupware package when properly integrated with SQL/Cyrus/LDAP/Sieve
provides workgroup shared e-mail (with quotas), shared calendars (with
free-busy), shared contacts (including write ability with LDAP),
integrated and live server based filtering including vacation type
notification, shared task lists, shared notes and an integrated wiki.
But yes, it also does web mail similar to squirrelmail.
The fact that they have abstracted the SQL backend so you can use the
SQL server of your choice, that they have abstracted the contacts system
so that you can use LDAP or SQL (or both) for address books, that they
have abstracted the cyrus administration system to the point where users
can administer the permissions on their own mailboxes does carry with it
some amount of complexity of configuration.
Craig
11:07 p.m.
Rick Stevens wrote:
>>>
>>> Which version of imp is good for work with FC6 ?
>>> Include which version of php and mysql ?
>>
>> You mean Horde/IMP (the webmail service)? If so, just install the
>> squirrelmail RPMs. It's danged near the same thing (even based on the
>> same code base, I believe).
> Q: Hey, I want a pizza!
> A: Just get a sandwich, they're both basically bread.
>
> P.D.: I hope the irony is understood.
Yeah, I get it. Have you ever configured Horde/IMP? I haven't in a
while, but it would've caused a newbies brain to explode. It appeared
he didn't want the whole Horde menagerie (turba, kronolith, nag, etc.),
just IMP (webmail). For a newbie, squirrelmail will do the job very
nicely and is pretty easy to configure.
If you want a dedicated server for mail and some other services (no NFS
or X desktop), you might like SME server
(http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=03943). It comes up with pop, imap and
IMP webmail working out of the box. It is probably the simplest of
all distributions to install and manage with all administration done
through a web interface.
--
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