Fedora 17 is behaving very unstable

[Luiz Emediato]

Hi there,
I am finding a lot of problems with Fedora 17. I have installed the
DVD distribution
and after a few days I got a kernel panic after an upgrade.
Fortunately after a few days I could re-upgrade the kernel to a newer
version available.
However many system commands do not obey me.
For instance, it does not allow me to choose wallpaper, it is now complaining
about glibc with errors, why? Everything is fresh install. I have also
tried yum reinstall glibc
unsuccessfully.
It does not let me open System Settings now. All very strange.
By the way, default GNOME is horrible. I have successfully changed it
back to Gnome 2.
However the system seems to be still very unstable. I choose NAMED and
SMBD at Services
but after a reboot systems seems to lose the information so I have to
set it back up manually.
I used RH9 in the past which was wonderful, very stable. Then RHELv5
very stable too but RH
no longer allows academic subscription. So I stuck with Fedora14 which
worked fine too.
Now I am having all these troubles with v17. I have been using Linux
for over twelve years now
and do consider myself an expert with it as much as other Unix OS's.
Should I wait for the new release 18? Why 17 is so unstable? Would
anyone please advise?
Thanks
Luiz

[Heinz Diehl]

On 24.12.2012, Luiz Emediato wrote: 

>  I did not try it on another computer. It looks like Fedora 17 LIVE
> DVD
>  is working fine on the machine. Perhaps my hard drive (which is brand
>  new, 3TiB) is not good after all. I will reinstall the system on another HDD. 
Check your memory before you blame it on your HDD. "Memtest" is a good
alternative, or running mprime.

http://www.memtest.org/
http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/

[Reindl Harald]

Am 24.12.2012 19:24, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.:
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> >>
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>  Just curious 
could you PLEASE strip out quoting of footers, signatures and endless newlines?

[Reindl Harald]

Am 24.12.2012 18:21, schrieb Bill Davidsen:
>  FC17 has been so stable for me that I'm planning to upgrade my
> FC16 VM hosting servers to it, after months of
>  testing in a non-critical enviroment. 
F17 IS stable

running on 19 VERY critical production servers on top of VMware ESXi
running on 4 important workstations
running on 3 router/VPN-gateway/firewall-machines
running on a lot of test-machines

i am using it for ANYTHING which is done with IT these days
since months witout any real problem

[Bill Davidsen]

Luiz Emediato wrote:
>  Hi there,
>  I am finding a lot of problems with Fedora 17. I have installed the
>  DVD distribution
>  and after a few days I got a kernel panic after an upgrade.
>  Fortunately after a few days I could re-upgrade the kernel to a newer
>  version available.
>  However many system commands do not obey me.
>  For instance, it does not allow me to choose wallpaper, it is now complaining
>  about glibc with errors, why? Everything is fresh install. I have also
>  tried yum reinstall glibc
>  unsuccessfully.
>  It does not let me open System Settings now. All very strange.
>  By the way, default GNOME is horrible. I have successfully changed it
>  back to Gnome 2. 
Aside from your other problems, just how did you do this? You didn't by chance 
force an install of GNOME2 from an older distribution and revert libraries, did 
you? If you mean you forced classic mode (sort-of GNOME2), or went to Cinnamon 
or MATE, please clarify. I saw a release saying GNOME2 was coming back 
officially, with no details if that means a better classic mode or updated 
distribution.

>  However the system seems to be still very unstable. I choose NAMED
> and
>  SMBD at Services
>  but after a reboot systems seems to lose the information so I have to
>  set it back up manually. 
No idea on that, corrupt information could be memory, but "lose changes" is 
unusual. You aren't booting from a live DVD or anything, are you? Yes, I know 
that's an unlikely mistake, but I've seen it done...

>  I used RH9 in the past which was wonderful, very stable. Then RHELv5
>  very stable too but RH
>  no longer allows academic subscription. So I stuck with Fedora14 which
>  worked fine too.
>  Now I am having all these troubles with v17. I have been using Linux
>  for over twelve years now
>  and do consider myself an expert with it as much as other Unix OS's.
>  Should I wait for the new release 18? Why 17 is so unstable? Would
>  anyone please advise? 
FC17 has been so stable for me that I'm planning to upgrade my FC16 VM hosting 
servers to it, after months of testing in a non-critical enviroment.

Final thought, if you like real GNOME2 and such, you can get the RHEL6 
functionality, with support, from Scientific Linux or CentOS. I have been on SL 
for a year for many things, because (a) they are the group doing OS support for 
the LHC (supercollider), and (b) they put a lot of effort into making it easy to 
have a few custom packages without losing support for the rest.

>  Thanks
>  Luiz
>  

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen(a)tmr.com&gt;
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot

[Matthew Miller]

On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 12:13:39AM -0200, Luiz Emediato wrote:
>  and after a few days I got a kernel panic after an upgrade.
>  Fortunately after a few days I could re-upgrade the kernel to a newer
>  version available.
>  However many system commands do not obey me.
>  For instance, it does not allow me to choose wallpaper, it is now complaining
>  about glibc with errors, why? 
It would be very helpful if you could give us the exact commands you tried
and the _exact_ error.


>  Everything is fresh install. I have also
>  tried yum reinstall glibc
>  unsuccessfully. 
This is rarely going to solve problems except for in very specific cases.


>  It does not let me open System Settings now. All very strange.
>  By the way, default GNOME is horrible. I have successfully changed it
>  back to Gnome 2. 
How did you do this?


>  I used RH9 in the past which was wonderful, very stable. 
And a very long time ago!

>  Then RHELv5
>  very stable too but RH
>  no longer allows academic subscription. So I stuck with Fedora14 which 
For what it's worth, Red Hat _does_ still offer academic pricing. But we
should be able to get your Fedora problems solved.

-- 
Matthew Miller  ☁☁☁  Fedora Cloud Architect  ☁☁☁  <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org&gt;

[agraham]

Sounds like storage/disk problems, rather than specific to F17.

[EGO-II.1]

On 12/24/2012 07:00 AM, Luiz Emediato wrote:
>  I did not try it on another computer. It looks like Fedora 17 LIVE
> DVD
>  is working fine on the machine. Perhaps my hard drive (which is brand
>  new, 3TiB) is not good after all. I will reinstall the system on another HDD.
>  Thanks.
>
>  On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 5:55 AM, antonio <antonio.montagnani(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > Luiz Emediato ha scritto / said the following    il giorno/on 24/12/2012
> > 03:13:
> >> Hi there,
> >> I am finding a lot of problems with Fedora 17. I have installed the
> >> DVD distribution
> >> and after a few days I got a kernel panic after an upgrade.
> >> Fortunately after a few days I could re-upgrade the kernel to a newer
> >> version available.
> >> However many system commands do not obey me.
> >> For instance, it does not allow me to choose wallpaper, it is now
> >> complaining
> >> about glibc with errors, why? Everything is fresh install. I have also
> >> tried yum reinstall glibc
> >> unsuccessfully.
> >> It does not let me open System Settings now. All very strange.
> >> By the way, default GNOME is horrible. I have successfully changed it
> >> back to Gnome 2.
> >> However the system seems to be still very unstable. I choose NAMED and
> >> SMBD at Services
> >> but after a reboot systems seems to lose the information so I have to
> >> set it back up manually.
> >> I used RH9 in the past which was wonderful, very stable. Then RHELv5
> >> very stable too but RH
> >> no longer allows academic subscription. So I stuck with Fedora14 which
> >> worked fine too.
> >> Now I am having all these troubles with v17. I have been using Linux
> >> for over twelve years now
> >> and do consider myself an expert with it as much as other Unix OS's.
> >> Should I wait for the new release 18? Why 17 is so unstable? Would
> >> anyone please advise?
> >> Thanks
> >> Luiz
> >>
> > on my systems, F17 works flawlessly and I think that it is one of the most
> > stable releases, I think that something is not working properly on your
> > system: have you tried on a different machine??
> >
> > --
> > Antonio M
> > Skype: amontag52
> >
> > Linux Fedora F17 (Beefy Miracle) on Acer 5720
> >
> > http://lugsaronno.altervista.org
> > http://www.campingmonterosa.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Just curious: Could the
size of the HDD have anything to do with the 
flaky behavior of the OS? I have been a user of Fedora since 5/6 and I 
haven't read about anyone installing it on such a large drive, not that 
it should matter, but maybe the installation might have places a certain 
folder (/etc?..../swap?) in a different location due to the size of the 
HDD? just curious...I seriously doubt this could have anything to do 
with it....but I figured I'd throw it out there...


EGO II

[Luiz Emediato]

I did not try it on another computer. It looks like Fedora 17 LIVE DVD
is working fine on the machine. Perhaps my hard drive (which is brand
new, 3TiB) is not good after all. I will reinstall the system on another HDD.
Thanks.

On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 5:55 AM, antonio <antonio.montagnani(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Luiz Emediato ha scritto / said the following    il giorno/on
> 24/12/2012
>  03:13:
> >
> > Hi there,
> > I am finding a lot of problems with Fedora 17. I have installed the
> > DVD distribution
> > and after a few days I got a kernel panic after an upgrade.
> > Fortunately after a few days I could re-upgrade the kernel to a newer
> > version available.
> > However many system commands do not obey me.
> > For instance, it does not allow me to choose wallpaper, it is now
> > complaining
> > about glibc with errors, why? Everything is fresh install. I have also
> > tried yum reinstall glibc
> > unsuccessfully.
> > It does not let me open System Settings now. All very strange.
> > By the way, default GNOME is horrible. I have successfully changed it
> > back to Gnome 2.
> > However the system seems to be still very unstable. I choose NAMED and
> > SMBD at Services
> > but after a reboot systems seems to lose the information so I have to
> > set it back up manually.
> > I used RH9 in the past which was wonderful, very stable. Then RHELv5
> > very stable too but RH
> > no longer allows academic subscription. So I stuck with Fedora14 which
> > worked fine too.
> > Now I am having all these troubles with v17. I have been using Linux
> > for over twelve years now
> > and do consider myself an expert with it as much as other Unix OS's.
> > Should I wait for the new release 18? Why 17 is so unstable? Would
> > anyone please advise?
> > Thanks
> > Luiz
> >
>  on my systems, F17 works flawlessly and I think that it is one of the most
>  stable releases, I think that something is not working properly on your
>  system: have you tried on a different machine??
>
>  --
>  Antonio M
>  Skype: amontag52
>
>  Linux Fedora F17 (Beefy Miracle) on Acer 5720
>
>  http://lugsaronno.altervista.org
>  http://www.campingmonterosa.com
>
>
>
>
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[Antonio M]

Luiz Emediato ha scritto / said the following    il giorno/on 24/12/2012 
03:13:
>  Hi there,
>  I am finding a lot of problems with Fedora 17. I have installed the
>  DVD distribution
>  and after a few days I got a kernel panic after an upgrade.
>  Fortunately after a few days I could re-upgrade the kernel to a newer
>  version available.
>  However many system commands do not obey me.
>  For instance, it does not allow me to choose wallpaper, it is now complaining
>  about glibc with errors, why? Everything is fresh install. I have also
>  tried yum reinstall glibc
>  unsuccessfully.
>  It does not let me open System Settings now. All very strange.
>  By the way, default GNOME is horrible. I have successfully changed it
>  back to Gnome 2.
>  However the system seems to be still very unstable. I choose NAMED and
>  SMBD at Services
>  but after a reboot systems seems to lose the information so I have to
>  set it back up manually.
>  I used RH9 in the past which was wonderful, very stable. Then RHELv5
>  very stable too but RH
>  no longer allows academic subscription. So I stuck with Fedora14 which
>  worked fine too.
>  Now I am having all these troubles with v17. I have been using Linux
>  for over twelve years now
>  and do consider myself an expert with it as much as other Unix OS's.
>  Should I wait for the new release 18? Why 17 is so unstable? Would
>  anyone please advise?
>  Thanks
>  Luiz
>  
on my systems, F17 works flawlessly and I think that it is one of the 
most stable releases, I think that something is not working properly on 
your system: have you tried on a different machine??

-- 
Antonio M
Skype: amontag52

Linux Fedora F17 (Beefy Miracle) on Acer 5720

http://lugsaronno.altervista.org
http://www.campingmonterosa.com