F28 system-config-date?

[Robert Moskowitz]

What happened to system-config-date?

I just installed F28 (jumped from F24), and am trying to find how I 
control things like what time zone I am in?  Always used the gui 
system-config-date...

thanks

[Richard Shaw]

The trend has been to move away from the Redhat GUI tools and to rely on
each individual desktop to have their own app...

Are you running Gnome, KDE or one of the others?

Thanks,
Richard

[Louis Lagendijk]

On Fri, 2018-05-25 at 13:19 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>  What happened to system-config-date?
>  
>  I just installed F28 (jumped from F24), and am trying to find how I 
>  control things like what time zone I am in?  Always used the gui 
>  system-config-date...
>  
>   
This is replaced by timedatectl

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 05/25/2018 01:33 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
>  The trend has been to move away from the Redhat GUI tools and to rely
>
>  on each individual desktop to have their own app...
>
>  Are you running Gnome, KDE or one of the others? 
Xfce

I have not found its timezone control.

thanks

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 05/25/2018 01:44 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
>  On Fri, 2018-05-25 at 13:19 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > What happened to system-config-date?
> >
> > I just installed F28 (jumped from F24), and am trying to find how I
> > control things like what time zone I am in?  Always used the gui
> > system-config-date...
> >
> >
>  This is replaced by timedatectl 
Command line is good, but GUI is better for all the traveling I do.

Or does this have a gui that I never noticed?

thanks

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 05/25/2018 01:33 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
>  The trend has been to move away from the Redhat GUI tools and to rely
>
>  on each individual desktop to have their own app...
>
>  Are you running Gnome, KDE or one of the others? 
And system-config-printer replacement?  I installed that  so I could get 
printing to my HP8600 going easily.

thanks

[Rex Dieter]

Robert Moskowitz wrote:

>  
>  
>  
>  On 05/25/2018 01:33 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
> > The trend has been to move away from the Redhat GUI tools and to rely
> > on each individual desktop to have their own app...
> >
> > Are you running Gnome, KDE or one of the others?
>  
>  And system-config-printer replacement? 
system-config-printer (still) exists (and it's not going away in the near 
future)

-- Rex

[Rick Stevens]

On 05/25/2018 11:00 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>  
>  
>  On 05/25/2018 01:44 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
> > On Fri, 2018-05-25 at 13:19 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> >> What happened to system-config-date?
> >>
> >> I just installed F28 (jumped from F24), and am trying to find how I
> >> control things like what time zone I am in?  Always used the gui
> >> system-config-date...
> >>
> >>
> > This is replaced by timedatectl
>  
>  Command line is good, but GUI is better for all the traveling I do.
>  
>  Or does this have a gui that I never noticed? 
If you have the clock widget in your panel, right click it, select
"Properties" and you can put in your time zone.

If you've installed the system-config-date RPM, you could click
	Applications->
		Administration->
			System-Config-Date

If you don't have the polkit issues, you'll get a popup to authenticate,
then you can select a timezone.

If you don't have that in your Applications menu, open a console and
as root, enter "system-config-date" (again, if you've installed the
RPM).

Or you can run "tzselect" (as root).
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[Louis Lagendijk]

On Fri, 2018-05-25 at 14:00 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>  
>  On 05/25/2018 01:44 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
>  > On Fri, 2018-05-25 at 13:19 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>  > > What happened to system-config-date?
>  > > 
>  > > I just installed F28 (jumped from F24), and am trying to find how
>  > > I
>  > > control things like what time zone I am in?  Always used the gui
>  > > system-config-date...
>  > > 
>  > > 
>  > 
>  > This is replaced by timedatectl
>  
>  Command line is good, but GUI is better for all the traveling I do.
>  
>  Or does this have a gui that I never noticed?
>  
>  thanks
>   
That is a good one: it does not. Bur I am more of a CLI user so I never
realized this limitation.
If you are using Gnome, you may try settings -> details - Date & time
I never used it, but it may do what you want...

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 05/25/2018 03:07 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
>  On 05/25/2018 11:00 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> >
> > On 05/25/2018 01:44 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2018-05-25 at 13:19 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> >>> What happened to system-config-date?
> >>>
> >>> I just installed F28 (jumped from F24), and am trying to find how I
> >>> control things like what time zone I am in?  Always used the gui
> >>> system-config-date...
> >>>
> >>>
> >> This is replaced by timedatectl
> > Command line is good, but GUI is better for all the traveling I do.
> >
> > Or does this have a gui that I never noticed?
>  If you have the clock widget in your panel, right click it, select
>  "Properties" and you can put in your time zone. 
You have to know your timezones, though it does bring up the choices as 
you type.

But no setting ntp or turning off ntp.

>  If you've installed the system-config-date RPM, you could click
>  	Applications->
>  		Administration->
>  			System-Config-Date
>
>  If you don't have the polkit issues, you'll get a popup to authenticate,
>  then you can select a timezone. 
That is the whole question.  I guess whatprovides? system-config-date is 
not in the F28 repo.

>  If you don't have that in your Applications menu, open a console and
>  as root, enter "system-config-date" (again, if you've installed the
>  RPM). 
See above.

>  Or you can run "tzselect" (as root).
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[Robert Moskowitz]

On 05/25/2018 03:13 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
>  On Fri, 2018-05-25 at 14:00 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > On 05/25/2018 01:44 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2018-05-25 at 13:19 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> >>> What happened to system-config-date?
> >>>
> >>> I just installed F28 (jumped from F24), and am trying to find how
> >>> I
> >>> control things like what time zone I am in?  Always used the gui
> >>> system-config-date...
> >>>
> >>>
> >> This is replaced by timedatectl
> > Command line is good, but GUI is better for all the traveling I do.
> >
> > Or does this have a gui that I never noticed?
> >
> > thanks
> >
>  That is a good one: it does not. Bur I am more of a CLI user so I never
>  realized this limitation. 
I use cli on my fedora-arm systems.  But my notebook uses Xfce.

>  If you are using Gnome, you may try settings -> details - Date
> & time
>  I never used it, but it may do what you want... 
Xfce,..

thanks

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 05/25/2018 03:07 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:
>  On 05/25/2018 11:00 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> >
> > On 05/25/2018 01:44 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2018-05-25 at 13:19 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> >>> What happened to system-config-date?
> >>>
> >>> I just installed F28 (jumped from F24), and am trying to find how I
> >>> control things like what time zone I am in?  Always used the gui
> >>> system-config-date...
> >>>
> >>>
> >> This is replaced by timedatectl
> > Command line is good, but GUI is better for all the traveling I do.
> >
> > Or does this have a gui that I never noticed?
>  If you have the clock widget in your panel, right click it, select
>  "Properties" and you can put in your time zone.
>
>  If you've installed the system-config-date RPM, you could click
>  	Applications->
>  		Administration->
>  			System-Config-Date
>  
The gui on this was nice.  I could bring up the map and find a city near 
where I landed.  Of course you can always just go by timezone. There are 
a lot of major cities not in the list.

Interestingly, the gui was there in the install for selecting the 
default timezone.