f23 :: kde and qt updates broken

[Adrian Sevcenco]

Hi! It would seem that the configs for the qt and kde updates were broken ..
trying to update i have this :

Error: package kf5-frameworkintegration-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires 
qt5-qtbase(x86-64) = 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
........... and so on

but if i try only qt5 update :
dnf -v update qt5-* --best --allowerasing
i get
removing 7 packages :
kde-print-manager
kde-print-manager-libs
plasma-desktop
plasma-integration
plasma-workspace
plasma-workspace-drkonqi
sddm-breeze

and downgrading:
kdeplasma-addons
kf5-frameworkintegration
kf5-frameworkintegration-libs
kf5-kdeclarative
kf5-kwayland
kf5-plasma

and the actual qt5 packages proposed for update are 5.6.2-1

so .. what is going on?

Thank you!
Adrian

[Michael Schwendt]

On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:52:27 +0200, Adrian Sevcenco wrote:

>  Hi! It would seem that the configs for the qt and kde updates were
> broken ..
>  trying to update i have this :
>  
>  Error: package kf5-frameworkintegration-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires 
>  qt5-qtbase(x86-64) = 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
>  ........... and so on
>  
>  but if i try only qt5 update :
>  dnf -v update qt5-* --best --allowerasing
>  i get
>  removing 7 packages :
>  kde-print-manager
>  kde-print-manager-libs
>  plasma-desktop
>  plasma-integration
>  plasma-workspace
>  plasma-workspace-drkonqi
>  sddm-breeze
>  
>  and downgrading:
>  kdeplasma-addons
>  kf5-frameworkintegration
>  kf5-frameworkintegration-libs
>  kf5-kdeclarative
>  kf5-kwayland
>  kf5-plasma
>  
>  and the actual qt5 packages proposed for update are 5.6.2-1
>  
>  so .. what is going on? 
You need to show the fully versioned list of which packages are installed
at the time _before_ you try to update and the fully versioned list of
which packages are available in all enabled repos.

Only then you can draw conclusions, usually after examining the package
dependencies.

Just based on what you've quoted, I would guess the explicit dependency
found in kf5-frameworkintegration on an older Qt 5 version blocks the
update. There should be are rebuild in the updates repo, however:
kf5-frameworkintegration-5.27.0-1.fc23.2.x86_64.rpm
It depends on the Qt 5.6.2 package. Do you see it in the repo?
Maybe you are affected by more so-called "broken dependencies"?

Fedora still doesn't do anything to prevent such broken deps in stable
releases, unfortunately. Some stay around for a long time, because nobody
stumbles into them or nobody reports them.

[Adrian Sevcenco]

On 12/10/2016 04:19 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>  On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 12:52:27 +0200, Adrian Sevcenco wrote:
>
> > Hi! It would seem that the configs for the qt and kde updates were broken ..
> > trying to update i have this :
> >
> > Error: package kf5-frameworkintegration-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 requires
> > qt5-qtbase(x86-64) = 5.6.1, but none of the providers can be installed.
> > ........... and so on
> >
> > but if i try only qt5 update :
> > dnf -v update qt5-* --best --allowerasing
> > i get
> > removing 7 packages :
> > kde-print-manager
> > kde-print-manager-libs
> > plasma-desktop
> > plasma-integration
> > plasma-workspace
> > plasma-workspace-drkonqi
> > sddm-breeze
> >
> > and downgrading:
> > kdeplasma-addons
> > kf5-frameworkintegration
> > kf5-frameworkintegration-libs
> > kf5-kdeclarative
> > kf5-kwayland
> > kf5-plasma
> >
> > and the actual qt5 packages proposed for update are 5.6.2-1
> >
> > so .. what is going on?
>
>  You need to show the fully versioned list of which packages are installed
>  at the time _before_ you try to update and the fully versioned list of
>  which packages are available in all enabled repos.
>
>  Only then you can draw conclusions, usually after examining the package
>  dependencies. 
Ok, so everything depends on qt5-qbase :
rpm -qa qt5-qtbase
qt5-qtbase-5.6.1-3.fc23.x86_64

proposed update : 5.6.2-1.fc23

>  Just based on what you've quoted, I would guess the explicit
> dependency
>  found in kf5-frameworkintegration on an older Qt 5 version blocks the
>  update. There should be are rebuild in the updates repo, however:
>  kf5-frameworkintegration-5.27.0-1.fc23.2.x86_64.rpm
>  It depends on the Qt 5.6.2 package. Do you see it in the repo?
>  Maybe you are affected by more so-called "broken dependencies"? 
the thing
is that i have it installed :
rpm -qa kf5-frameworkintegration
kf5-frameworkintegration-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64

as i said, the main problem is with update only qt5-*
i get proposal to erase :
kde-print-manager
kde-print-manager-libs
plasma-desktop
plasma-integration
plasma-workspace
plasma-workspace-drkonqi
sddm-breeze

and downgrade :
kdeplasma-addons
kf5-frameworkintegration
kf5-frameworkintegration-libs
kf5-kdeclarative
kf5-kwayland
kf5-plasma

that would mean that these packages have hard dependency on the old 5.6.1

Should i open 1 signle ticket in bugzila for all these packages or just
a ticket per package?

Thank you!
Adrian



>  Fedora still doesn't do anything to prevent such broken deps in
> stable
>  releases, unfortunately. Some stay around for a long time, because nobody
>  stumbles into them or nobody reports them.
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Adrian Sevcenco, Ph.D.                       |
Institute of Space Science - ISS, Romania    |
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[Michael Schwendt]

On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 17:34:26 +0200, Adrian Sevcenco wrote:

>  > Just based on what you've quoted, I would guess the explicit
> dependency
>  > found in kf5-frameworkintegration on an older Qt 5 version blocks the
>  > update. There should be are rebuild in the updates repo, however:
>  > kf5-frameworkintegration-5.27.0-1.fc23.2.x86_64.rpm
>  > It depends on the Qt 5.6.2 package. Do you see it in the repo?
>  > Maybe you are affected by more so-called "broken dependencies"?  
>  the thing is that i have it installed :
>  rpm -qa kf5-frameworkintegration
>  kf5-frameworkintegration-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64 
No. That's not the same package I mentioned. Notice the extra ".2" behind
".fc23". That's a minor release update in the least-significant
right-most part of the package "Release" tag.

Details like that can be _very_ important when examining dependency
problems and checking which packages are available in the repo.

[Adrian Sevcenco]

On 12/11/2016 02:42 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>  On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 17:34:26 +0200, Adrian Sevcenco wrote:
>
> >> Just based on what you've quoted, I would guess the explicit dependency
> >> found in kf5-frameworkintegration on an older Qt 5 version blocks the
> >> update. There should be are rebuild in the updates repo, however:
> >> kf5-frameworkintegration-5.27.0-1.fc23.2.x86_64.rpm
> >> It depends on the Qt 5.6.2 package. Do you see it in the repo?
> >> Maybe you are affected by more so-called "broken dependencies"?
> > the thing is that i have it installed :
> > rpm -qa kf5-frameworkintegration
> > kf5-frameworkintegration-5.27.0-1.fc23.x86_64
>
>  No. That's not the same package I mentioned. Notice the extra ".2" behind
>  ".fc23". That's a minor release update in the least-significant
>  right-most part of the package "Release" tag. 
yes, you're right, i
did not see it .. but is this ok to have a 
versioning number after the os id??

anyway, the problem was solved (fixed packages in updates) ..

Thank you!
Adrian

>  Details like that can be _very_ important when examining dependency
>  problems and checking which packages are available in the repo.

[Michael Schwendt]

On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 17:11:51 +0200, Adrian Sevcenco wrote:

>  > No. That's not the same package I mentioned. Notice the
> extra ".2" behind
>  > ".fc23". That's a minor release update in the least-significant
>  > right-most part of the package "Release" tag.  
>
>  yes, you're right, i did not see it .. but is this ok to have a 
>  versioning number after the os id?? 
Yes.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Versioning#Minor_release_bumps_f...

What you call "os id" is known as "dist tag" and is part of the
package
Release, so for example

  1.fc23.1   would be higher (= "newer") than   1.fc23

but

  1.fc24     would still be higher than   1.fc23.1

because fc24 is higher than fc23.

[Adrian Sevcenco]

On 12/11/2016 08:55 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>  On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 17:11:51 +0200, Adrian Sevcenco wrote:
>
> >> No. That's not the same package I mentioned. Notice the extra ".2"
> behind
> >> ".fc23". That's a minor release update in the least-significant
> >> right-most part of the package "Release" tag.
> >
> > yes, you're right, i did not see it .. but is this ok to have a
> > versioning number after the os id??
>
>  Yes.
>
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Versioning#Minor_release_bumps_f...
>
>  What you call "os id" is known as "dist tag" and is part of the
> package
>  Release, so for example
>
>    1.fc23.1   would be higher (= "newer") than   1.fc23
>
>  but
>
>    1.fc24     would still be higher than   1.fc23.1
>
>  because fc24 is higher than fc23. 
i see, thank you for information!

[Rex Dieter]

Adrian Sevcenco wrote:

>  Hi! It would seem that the configs for the qt and kde updates were
> broken
>  .. trying to update i have this : 
Should be fixed by:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-22b09070a2

-- Rex

[Adrian Sevcenco]

On 12/10/2016 07:18 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
>  Adrian Sevcenco wrote:
>
> > Hi! It would seem that the configs for the qt and kde updates were broken
> > .. trying to update i have this :
>
>  Should be fixed by:
>  https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-22b09070a2 
Thanks a lot! it
worked :)

Adrian