12:07 p.m.
I've been asked to look for notebooks for my office that have built-in
serial ports. We've already used USB-to-serial adapters and port
multipliers with mixed success; we are kind of leery of using PCMCIA serial
ports. And we'd like to use these notebooks on the go so docks are out of
the question. Can I get the big OEMs to sell me a few of these or am I out
of luck with them?
5:43 p.m.
Joe Tseng wrote:
I've been asked to look for notebooks for my office that have
built-in
serial ports. We've already used USB-to-serial adapters and port
multipliers with mixed success; we are kind of leery of using PCMCIA
serial ports. And we'd like to use these notebooks on the go so docks
are out of the question. Can I get the big OEMs to sell me a few of
these or am I out of luck with them?
The ASUS have/had them recently, I have a few here. Beware the USB
stuff, in general they aren't really RS-232 compliant, the standard
calls for +/-12v signalling, and many "serial ports" try to fake it with
0-12v, which really, really, doesn't make it talking to some devices.
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4:38 a.m.
I guess you could just call a Dell rep.
He can give you Tech sup. where they can give you all kind of flavoured
details. (even those not mentioned on their website)
I'f U'r in the US&A you might ask for the linux support of those models ;)
Mike
2007/11/7, David Timms <dtimms(a)iinet.net.au>:
Joe Tseng wrote:
> I've been asked to look for notebooks for my office that have built-in
> serial ports. We've already used USB-to-serial adapters and port
> multipliers with mixed success; we are kind of leery of using PCMCIA
> serial ports. And we'd like to use these notebooks on the go so docks
> are out of the question. Can I get the big OEMs to sell me a few of
> these or am I out of luck with them?
Another manu/model: hp compaq_nx6120 {superseded last year) and hp
compaq nx6320 {superseded a month ago,but might be able to still get
it}. Both have RS232 com ports.
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1:25 a.m.
Joe Tseng wrote:
I've been asked to look for notebooks for my office that have
built-in
serial ports. We've already used USB-to-serial adapters and port
multipliers with mixed success; we are kind of leery of using PCMCIA
serial ports. And we'd like to use these notebooks on the go so docks
are out of the question. Can I get the big OEMs to sell me a few of
these or am I out of luck with them?
Another manu/model: hp compaq_nx6120
{superseded last year) and hp
compaq nx6320 {superseded a month ago,but might be able to still get
it}. Both have RS232 com ports.
DaveT.
5:54 p.m.
Joe Tseng wrote:
I've been asked to look for notebooks for my office that have
built-in
serial ports. We've already used USB-to-serial adapters and port
multipliers with mixed success; we are kind of leery of using PCMCIA
serial ports. And we'd like to use these notebooks on the go so docks
are out of the question. Can I get the big OEMs to sell me a few of
these or am I out of luck with them?
What problem are you trying to solve?
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3:26 p.m.
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:13 -0500, Joe Tseng wrote:
Awesome!!! The 520, 630 and 830 all have serial ports. I'm a
happier
camper today. :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott van Looy" <scott(a)ethosuk.org.uk>
To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Looking for a notebook
> Today William Hooper did spake thusly:
>
>> On 11/6/07, Joe Tseng <joe_tseng(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> I've been asked to look for notebooks for my office that have built-in
>>> serial ports. We've already used USB-to-serial adapters and port
>>> multipliers with mixed success; we are kind of leery of using PCMCIA
>>> serial
>>> ports. And we'd like to use these notebooks on the go so docks are out
>>> of
>>> the question. Can I get the big OEMs to sell me a few of these or am I
>>> out
>>> of luck with them?
>>
>> Some of Dell's Latitude line still have them. I've got a D820 here
>> with one, I believe the D830 (current model) still has one. According
>> to emperorlinux.com the D520 and D630 have them also.
>
> My D620 has one too
Dell Precision M65 has one.
- Brian
3:13 p.m.
Awesome!!! The 520, 630 and 830 all have serial ports. I'm a happier
camper today. :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott van Looy" <scott(a)ethosuk.org.uk>
To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Looking for a notebook
Today William Hooper did spake thusly:
> On 11/6/07, Joe Tseng <joe_tseng(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I've been asked to look for notebooks for my office that have built-in
>> serial ports. We've already used USB-to-serial adapters and port
>> multipliers with mixed success; we are kind of leery of using PCMCIA
>> serial
>> ports. And we'd like to use these notebooks on the go so docks are out
>> of
>> the question. Can I get the big OEMs to sell me a few of these or am I
>> out
>> of luck with them?
>
> Some of Dell's Latitude line still have them. I've got a D820 here
> with one, I believe the D830 (current model) still has one. According
> to emperorlinux.com the D520 and D630 have them also.
My D620 has one too
3:13 p.m.
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 16:09 -0500, Mark Haney wrote:
Michael.Coll-Barth(a)VerizonWireless.com wrote:
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Miner, Jonathan W (CSC) (US SSA)
>>
>>> I have a couple of very old notebooks that have 9-pin serial in
> them.
>>> Nothing within the last 5 years though.
>> My DELL Latitude D810 has a serial port and it is only a year
>> or two old (I think)
>>
>
> I just took a look at a few ( 6=sew? ), all different brands and all
> less than two years old. They all had a 9 pin serial and a 25 pin
> parallel. And that doesn't take into account their docking stations.
> One lucky bastard also has 4 USB ports!
Well in my defence I meant that we had no laptops here with serial ports
newer than 5 years old. Not that there weren't any, just that we didn't
have them. Sorry for the confusion.
----
there's still a demand for them because of various serial devices such
as routers/switches/etc.
I would expect that this is a need that will continually be filled by
some for quite some time.
Craig
3:09 p.m.
Michael.Coll-Barth(a)VerizonWireless.com wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Miner, Jonathan W (CSC) (US SSA)
>
>> I have a couple of very old notebooks that have 9-pin serial in
them.
>> Nothing within the last 5 years though.
> My DELL Latitude D810 has a serial port and it is only a year
> or two old (I think)
>
I just took a look at a few ( 6=sew? ), all different brands and all
less than two years old. They all had a 9 pin serial and a 25 pin
parallel. And that doesn't take into account their docking stations.
One lucky bastard also has 4 USB ports!
Well in my defence I meant that we had no laptops here with serial ports
newer than 5 years old. Not that there weren't any, just that we didn't
have them. Sorry for the confusion.
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2:19 p.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: Miner, Jonathan W (CSC) (US SSA)
> I have a couple of very old notebooks that have 9-pin serial in
them.
> Nothing within the last 5 years though.
My DELL Latitude D810 has a serial port and it is only a year
or two old (I think)
I just took a look at a few ( 6=sew? ), all different brands and all
less than two years old. They all had a 9 pin serial and a 25 pin
parallel. And that doesn't take into account their docking stations.
One lucky bastard also has 4 USB ports!
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Today William Hooper did spake thusly:
On 11/6/07, Joe Tseng <joe_tseng(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> I've been asked to look for notebooks for my office that have built-in
> serial ports. We've already used USB-to-serial adapters and port
> multipliers with mixed success; we are kind of leery of using PCMCIA serial
> ports. And we'd like to use these notebooks on the go so docks are out of
> the question. Can I get the big OEMs to sell me a few of these or am I out
> of luck with them?
Some of Dell's Latitude line still have them. I've got a D820 here
with one, I believe the D830 (current model) still has one. According
to emperorlinux.com the D520 and D630 have them also.
My D620 has one too
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1:58 p.m.
Mark Haney wrote:
Joe Tseng wrote:
> I've been asked to look for notebooks for my office that have built-in
> serial ports. We've already used USB-to-serial adapters and port
> multipliers with mixed success; we are kind of leery of using PCMCIA
> serial ports. And we'd like to use these notebooks on the go so docks
> are out of the question. Can I get the big OEMs to sell me a few of
> these or am I out of luck with them?
Wow, with /serial/ ports? Doh. I don't know, I would suspect the
manufacturers don't make many with serial ports any more. You might get
lucky. My USB to Serial adapter works perfectly every time. Are you
needing more than one serial port on the notebook?
You just have to be careful about the adapter you use. Not all of
them support the RS-232 control lines, and a lot of applications
require them. Serial ports are still widely used by control
equipment. (Building lighting controllers, PLCs alarm controls, etc.)
I picked up an Itronix T5200 for these applications, because it can
survive abuse better then a laptop. (It is even extremely water
resistant - 3" rain/hour.)
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1:43 p.m.
On 11/6/07, Joe Tseng <joe_tseng(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
I've been asked to look for notebooks for my office that have
built-in
serial ports. We've already used USB-to-serial adapters and port
multipliers with mixed success; we are kind of leery of using PCMCIA serial
ports. And we'd like to use these notebooks on the go so docks are out of
the question. Can I get the big OEMs to sell me a few of these or am I out
of luck with them?
Some of Dell's Latitude line still have them. I've got a D820 here
with one, I believe the D830 (current model) still has one. According
to emperorlinux.com the D520 and D630 have them also.
--
William Hooper
1:43 p.m.
alan wrote:
I don't think I have ever seen a laptop with a serial port. Might be a
few, but they would be industrial use type machines. (Does the Panasonic
TuffBook have them?)
You may be SOL.
They used to be very common. I have used several Thinkpads, and a
couple of Toshibas that had serial ports. But once you get past the
P-3 class machines, they get to be rare. For that matter, finding a
laptop with a PS/2 port is getting hard to find as well.
I have sitting here a Thinkpad I1500 class machine that Has 1
serial, 1 parallel, 1 USB, 1 PS/2, and 1 VGA port, as well as a
modem connection. Then again, it also has both a 3-1/2" floppy and a
CD-ROM drive. (Both drives in the machine at the same time.) When
was the last time you saw a laptop with a floppy drive?
Mikkel
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1:39 p.m.
alan wrote:
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Joe Tseng wrote:
I don't think I have ever seen a laptop with a serial port. Might be a
few, but they would be industrial use type machines. (Does the Panasonic
TuffBook have them?)
You may be SOL.
I have a couple of very old notebooks that have 9-pin serial in them.
Nothing within the last 5 years though.
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12:35 p.m.
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Joe Tseng wrote:
I've been asked to look for notebooks for my office that have
built-in serial
ports. We've already used USB-to-serial adapters and port multipliers with
mixed success; we are kind of leery of using PCMCIA serial ports. And we'd
like to use these notebooks on the go so docks are out of the question. Can
I get the big OEMs to sell me a few of these or am I out of luck with them?
I don't think I have ever seen a laptop with a serial port. Might be a
few, but they would be industrial use type machines. (Does the Panasonic
TuffBook have them?)
You may be SOL.
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12:31 p.m.
So far I've found the Toshiba Tecra A9-S9013X; everything else is available
as refurbs. I think we may need more than one serial port one day, but
we'll cross that bridge when we get there.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Haney" <mhaney(a)ercbroadband.org>
To: "For users of Fedora" <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] Looking for a notebook
Joe Tseng wrote:
> I've been asked to look for notebooks for my office that have built-in
> serial ports. We've already used USB-to-serial adapters and port
> multipliers with mixed success; we are kind of leery of using PCMCIA
> serial ports. And we'd like to use these notebooks on the go so docks
> are out of the question. Can I get the big OEMs to sell me a few of
> these or am I out of luck with them?
Wow, with /serial/ ports? Doh. I don't know, I would suspect the
manufacturers don't make many with serial ports any more. You might get
lucky. My USB to Serial adapter works perfectly every time. Are you
needing more than one serial port on the notebook?
12:21 p.m.
Joe Tseng wrote:
I've been asked to look for notebooks for my office that have
built-in
serial ports. We've already used USB-to-serial adapters and port
multipliers with mixed success; we are kind of leery of using PCMCIA
serial ports. And we'd like to use these notebooks on the go so docks
are out of the question. Can I get the big OEMs to sell me a few of
these or am I out of luck with them?
Wow, with /serial/ ports? Doh. I don't know, I would suspect the
manufacturers don't make many with serial ports any more. You might get
lucky. My USB to Serial adapter works perfectly every time. Are you
needing more than one serial port on the notebook?
--
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Mark Haney
Sr. Systems Administrator
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