I think ill just go ahead and upgrade now
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:08 AM, fedora-list-request@redhat.com wrote:
Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to fedora-list@redhat.com
To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fedora-list-request@redhat.com
You can reach the person managing the list at fedora-list-owner@redhat.com
When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of fedora-list digest..."
Today's Topics:
- Re: Tune started from rc.local plays to completion, before bootup continues (Craig White)
- Re: Problem with keyboard layout in kvm virtual machine (Matthew Flaschen)
- Re: F-10 xmodmap/xkeycaps problem - (Steven W. Orr)
- Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key (Robert L Cochran)
- Re: Gnome scanner utility crashes, no Bugzilla component (Richard Shaw)
- Re: Problem with keyboard layout in kvm virtual machine (Mogens Kjaer)
- Re: Damaged xterm in Fedora 10 (Reg Clemens)
- Re: Damaged xterm in Fedora 10 (Frank Cox)
- Re: Damaged xterm in Fedora 10 (Tim)
- Re: Gnome scanner utility crashes, no Bugzilla component (Michael Schwendt)
- Re: Morph software (Paul-Erik T?rr?nen)
- Re: Damaged xterm in Fedora 10 (Michael Schwendt)
- Re: Morph software (Bryn M. Reeves)
- Problem with E1000 module or Intel 82541PI network card (Gijs)
- Re: Problem with E1000 module or Intel 82541PI network card (Mogens Kjaer)
- Re: Problem with E1000 module or Intel 82541PI network card (Gijs)
Message: 1 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 19:03:17 -0700 From: Craig White craigwhite@azapple.com Subject: Re: Tune started from rc.local plays to completion, before bootup continues To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 1235354597.17875.13.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com Content-Type: text/plain
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 12:04 +1030, Tim wrote:
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 01:09 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Playing sound before your desktop session is started is simply not the use case PulseAudio is designed for.
On that note. Having the login window trying to announce it's arrival, which prior versions used to do, at least, seems a bad idea.
Likewise, I notice that Gnome rarely ever manages to play the sound file that it's supposed to as your session starts. And, if it tries to play a sound as you log out, it starts and gets abruptly cut off. That's another couple of things that aren't well implemented.
don't know about Gnome but in the latest updates on KDE, it is sort of working like one would imagine it to work.
Craig
Message: 2 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:35:44 -0500 From: Matthew Flaschen matthew.flaschen@gatech.edu Subject: Re: Problem with keyboard layout in kvm virtual machine To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 49A20B80.3080605@gatech.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
In KDE (system settings - regional and language) I have set the "DE" keyboard layout as well. Whenever I switch to "US" there, I immediatedly get the correct layout in the Windows guest, and switching to "DE" again in KDE brings back the strange layout in Win XP.
You didn't mention what your host architecture was. man qemu mentions a -k keyboard language option, but says, "This option is only needed where it is not easy to get raw PC key‐codes (e.g. on Macs, with some X11 servers or with a VNC display). You don't normally need to use it on PC/Linux or PC/Windows hosts." You could try experimenting with that.
Matt Flaschen
Message: 3 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:00:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Steven W. Orr" steveo@syslang.net Subject: Re: F-10 xmodmap/xkeycaps problem - To: Fedora List fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: alpine.LFD.2.00.0902222156440.4510@saturn.syslang.net Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
On Sunday, Feb 22nd 2009 at 11:52 -0000, quoth Kevin Kofler:
=>Bob Goodwin wrote: =>> Can anyone tell me why xmodmap and xkeycaps =>> do not work in F-10 as they do in F-9? => =>Because Fedora 10 switched to evdev as the default keyboard driver.
I'm not sure why you think it doesn't work. I'm one of those people, increasingly rare, who grew up on a Sun keyboard, and I simply must have my capslock and ctrl keys switched on a pc keyboard. I generated a file for use by xmodmap using xkeycaps and then I added
518 > cat swapcaps.sh #! /bin/bash xmodmap .xmodmap-saturn.syslang.net 519 >
to my ~/.kde/Autostart
Works great.
-- Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have .0. happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ ..0 Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- 000 individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? steveo at syslang.net
Message: 4 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:37:04 -0500 From: Robert L Cochran cochranb@speakeasy.net Subject: Re: Extending Expiration Date of an Already-Expired GPG Key To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 49A219E0.6010500@speakeasy.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Ed Greshko wrote:
Todd Zullinger wrote:
The signed message Robert sent earlier in this thread has a bad signature because something (most likely his mail client) word wrapped the message after gpg had signed it. I saved the message, unwrapped the one long line and verified the signature.
FWIW, I've seen problems in this area when "Use PGP/MIME" is *not* checked on sending. In his case, Robert's message are sent without that being checked.
I would also recommend that Enigmail 0.95.7 be used.
I guess I have some modernizing to do. I'm using an older version of Thunderbird (2.0.0.14) and Engimail (0.95.2). Thanks for the heads up about both these items.
Bob
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:54:47 -0600 From: Richard Shaw hobbes1069@gmail.com Subject: Re: Gnome scanner utility crashes, no Bugzilla component To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 373c76480902221954r2d7f6d26k3d74e2cb9166b5e4@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Matthew Saltzman mjs@clemson.edu wrote:
In my F10 installation, the gnome-scan utility, flegita, segfaults when it detects my scanner (attached to another machine on the network).
I went to Bugzilla to file a bug, but there is no component for gnome-scanner or flegita. What component should I use?
Also, has anyone noticed that when one selects Fedora as the product in Bugzilla, the version numbers don't change from the initial version numbers associated with the default RHEL product? -- Matthew Saltzman
Well, I don't have much advice for gnome-scanner. I tried it once but didn't like the interface. I've been very happy with xsane. It doesn't look "pretty" or integrated, but it works quite well with my HP Photosmart 5580.
Richard
Message: 6 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 07:58:17 +0100 From: Mogens Kjaer mk@crc.dk Subject: Re: Problem with keyboard layout in kvm virtual machine To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 49A24909.3050700@crc.dk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Klaus-Peter Schrage wrote:
This weekend I have successfully installed kvm and qemu, and Win XP is running in a virtual machine. A problem remains: Win XP installs with German locale (the default, as I used a German installation cd), but a strange keyboard layout results - some kind of qwertyu, it is not the US one which I know.
For F9 and F10, I had to patch kvm to get it to work with a Danish keyboard.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=135381
This bug is 4½ years old...
Mogens
-- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Mobile: +45 22 12 53 25 Email: mk@crc.dk Homepage: http://www.crc.dk
Message: 7 Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:59:59 -0700 From: Reg Clemens reg@dwf.com Subject: Re: Damaged xterm in Fedora 10 To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Cc: reg@fw.dwf.com Message-ID: 200902230659.n1N6xxTc028916@deneb.dwf.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
[[ trying to add a bug report ]]
Well, I followed your instructions, and tried a few other things, but I always end up back a a web page that says
Red Hat Bugzilla - Select Classification Please select the
classification. Home | New | Search | <box> | Find | reports | My Reequests | My Votes | Preferences | \ Help | My Front page | Log out reg@dwf.com
then there is a box with
All: Show all Products Red Hat: Red Hat Products Fedora: Fedora Products Other: Other Misellaneous Products
Then a box with
Actions: <and the line above starting with Home...> Saved Searches: My Bugs Add the named tag <box> to bugs <box> commit
There is no place to put in the text of a bug report, and hitting 'new' brings you right back to this form. I have never been able to get beyond this point.
This is the point where I gave up... I seem to be in a loop. I tried turning off popups, to no avail.
-- Reg.Clemens reg@dwf.com
Message: 8 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 01:15:23 -0600 From: Frank Cox theatre@sasktel.net Subject: Re: Damaged xterm in Fedora 10 To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q? Community_assistance, _encouragement, =09and_advice_for_?= using Fedora. " fedora-list@redhat.com Cc: Reg Clemens reg@dwf.com, reg@fw.dwf.com Message-ID: 20090223011523.00167200.theatre@sasktel.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
I just logged into the bugzilla and navigated to the "enter a new bug" screen for Fedora issues. I took a screenshot of each step and have emailed them to you.
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:59:59 -0700 Reg Clemens wrote:
[[ trying to add a bug report ]]
Well, I followed your instructions, and tried a few other things, but I always end up back a a web page that says
Red Hat Bugzilla - Select Classification Please select the
classification. Home | New | Search | <box> | Find | reports | My Reequests | My
Votes |
Preferences | \ Help | My Front page | Log out reg@dwf.com
then there is a box with
All: Show all Products Red Hat: Red Hat Products Fedora: Fedora Products Other: Other Misellaneous Products
Then a box with
Actions: <and the line above starting with Home...> Saved Searches: My Bugs Add the named tag <box> to bugs <box> commit
There is no place to put in the text of a bug report, and hitting 'new'
brings
you right back to this form. I have never been able to get beyond this point.
This is the point where I gave up... I seem to be in a loop. I tried turning off popups, to no avail.
-- Reg.Clemens reg@dwf.com
-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines
-- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com DRY CLEANER BUSINESS FOR SALE ~ http://www.canadadrycleanerforsale.com
Message: 9 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:44:21 +1030 From: Tim ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au Subject: Re: Damaged xterm in Fedora 10 To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 1235376861.4079.7.camel@suspishus.lan.cameratim.com Content-Type: text/plain
On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 23:59 -0700, Reg Clemens wrote:
then there is a box with
All: Show all Products Red Hat: Red Hat Products Fedora: Fedora Products Other: Other Misellaneous Products
Then a box with
Actions: <and the line above starting with Home...> Saved Searches: My Bugs Add the named tag <box> to bugs <box> commit
There is no place to put in the text of a bug report, and hitting 'new' brings you right back to this form.
Having had a look at Bugzilla (it's changed since my last play), the "new" link appears to reset the form so you can do a new query (not intuitive, and lacking any mouse-hover popup-info about what it might do).
To make a bugzilla entry, the list of products (as above) are links to start making an entry: The word "Fedora" to pick from a Fedora product, with another page of sub-categories, and so on, and so forth.
It's not exactly intuitive that this is a menu to *pick* choices from, as links, rather than just for you to read. If the webpage hadn't elected to remove the traditional underlining of links, it would have been more obvious.
I'm rather tired of having to find the hidden links on websites, these days, as they delight in making it un-obvious what's a link. http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030823
-- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.15-78.2.23.fc9.i686
Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:59:33 +0100 From: Michael Schwendt mschwendt@gmail.com Subject: Re: Gnome scanner utility crashes, no Bugzilla component To: fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 20090223105933.eebbecc8.mschwendt@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:58:37 -0500, Matthew wrote:
In my F10 installation, the gnome-scan utility, flegita, segfaults when it detects my scanner (attached to another machine on the network).
I went to Bugzilla to file a bug, but there is no component for gnome-scanner or flegita. What component should I use?
The "Source RPM" package name: gnome-scan
Red Hat Bugzilla explains if you follow the guided bug entry page: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided&product=Fedora
Message: 11 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:01:01 +0200 (EET) From: Paul-Erik T?rr?nen poltsi@777-team.org Subject: Re: Morph software To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 45946.84.34.172.50.1235383261.squirrel@poltsi.fi Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
I Appreciate the offer, and you probably should publish for people
looking
for a
Better late than never:
http://poltsi.fi/Software/morphing_with_imagemagick.html
Poltsi
Message: 12 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:04:44 +0100 From: Michael Schwendt mschwendt@gmail.com Subject: Re: Damaged xterm in Fedora 10 To: fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 20090223110444.1d93c800.mschwendt@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:59:59 -0700, Reg wrote:
[[ trying to add a bug report ]]
Well, I followed your instructions, and tried a few other things, but I always end up back a a web page that says
Red Hat Bugzilla - Select Classification Please select the
classification. Home | New | Search | <box> | Find | reports | My Reequests | My
Votes |
Preferences | \ Help | My Front page | Log out reg@dwf.com
Try out the direct "Report" link at:
http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/xterm
It takes you to a single form in bugzilla.redhat.com, and that works for all packages in the Fedora package collection.
Message: 13 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:25:37 +0000 From: "Bryn M. Reeves" bmr@redhat.com Subject: Re: Morph software To: poltsi@777-team.org, "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 49A279A1.7030208@redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Paul-Erik Törrönen wrote:
I Appreciate the offer, and you probably should publish for people looking for a
Better late than never:
As pointed out earlier in the thread, this isn't actually "morphing" in the sense the original poster was looking for.
ImageMagick's morph switch just does superposition and interpolation of images (cross-dissolve) - it doesn't attempt to warp the source and target images to bring image features into alignment before interpolating, so it is only useful for simple images that already have close alignment.
Regards, Bryn.
Message: 14 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:39:55 +0100 From: Gijs info@boer-software-en-webservices.nl Subject: Problem with E1000 module or Intel 82541PI network card To: For users of Fedora fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 49A27CFB.7070606@boer-software-en-webservices.nl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Hello List,
I'm having problems with "Intel Corporation 82541PI Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 05)". Most of the time it works ok, but sometimes the connection just crashes. Now the last time I saw about 760 million errors appearing on the interface. When I checked /var/log/messages, I came across the following stacktrace:
NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth1: transmit timed out ------------[ cut here ]------------ WARNING: at net/sched/sch_generic.c:222 dev_watchdog+0x92/0xe3() (Not tainted) Modules linked in: appletalk it87 hwmon_vid fuse sunrpc ipt_REJECT ipt_ULOG xt_limit ipt_LOG xt_tcpudp xt_state ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_nat nf_nat nf_conntrack_ipv4 nf_conntrack iptable_filter ip_tables x_tables ipv6 cpufreq_ondemand powernow_k8 dm_multipath snd_hda_intel snd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq snd_seq_device snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm snd_timer i2c_nforce2 snd_page_alloc e1000 snd_hwdep i2c_core k8temp usb_storage snd parport_pc hwmon parport forcedeth soundcore pcspkr floppy sg pata_amd dm_snapshot dm_zero dm_mirror dm_log dm_mod pata_acpi ata_generic sata_nv libata sd_mod scsi_mod ext3 jbd mbcache uhci_hcd ohci_hcd ehci_hcd [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan] Pid: 0, comm: swapper Not tainted 2.6.26.8-57.fc8 #1 [<c0428892>] warn_on_slowpath+0x47/0x72 [<c041f96d>] ? try_to_wake_up+0x1b3/0x1bd [<c041f982>] ? default_wake_function+0xb/0xd [<c0438d94>] ? autoremove_wake_function+0xf/0x33 [<c041d786>] ? __wake_up_common+0x2f/0x5a [<c041f4f1>] ? __wake_up+0x31/0x3b [<c043633e>] ? insert_work+0x4a/0x50 [<c04365f0>] ? __queue_work+0x28/0x2d [<c043664f>] ? queue_work+0x36/0x40 [<c0436668>] ? schedule_work+0xf/0x11 [<c05d0935>] dev_watchdog+0x92/0xe3 [<c04306d6>] run_timer_softirq+0x124/0x18c [<c05d08a3>] ? dev_watchdog+0x0/0xe3 [<c05d08a3>] ? dev_watchdog+0x0/0xe3 [<c042cdcf>] __do_softirq+0x6d/0xdf [<c0406e5e>] do_softirq+0x6c/0xa9 [<c042cd2f>] irq_exit+0x38/0x6b [<c041494c>] smp_apic_timer_interrupt+0x6e/0x7e [<c040378d>] ? default_idle+0x0/0x58 [<c0405654>] apic_timer_interrupt+0x28/0x30 [<c040378d>] ? default_idle+0x0/0x58 [<c0419653>] ? native_safe_halt+0x5/0x7 [<c04037bd>] default_idle+0x30/0x58 [<c04036cc>] cpu_idle+0xae/0xce [<c06217d6>] rest_init+0x4e/0x50 ======================= ---[ end trace 0c5cc5d9805576cc ]--- e1000: eth1: e1000_watchdog: NIC Link is Up 1000 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: RX/TX e1000: eth1: e1000_clean_tx_irq: Detected Tx Unit Hang Tx Queue <0> TDH <4000fc> TDT <400054> next_to_use <54> next_to_clean <f3> buffer_info[next_to_clean] time_stamp <5822fb> next_to_watch <f3> jiffies <582d9d> next_to_watch.status <0>
I'm running Fedora 8, kernel version 2.6.26.8-57.fc8. Does anyone else have a similar problem with this type of card/module?
Regards, Gijs
Message: 15 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:57:18 +0100 From: Mogens Kjaer mk@crc.dk Subject: Re: Problem with E1000 module or Intel 82541PI network card To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 49A2810E.6000001@crc.dk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Gijs wrote: ...
I'm running Fedora 8, kernel version 2.6.26.8-57.fc8. Does anyone else have a similar problem with this type of card/module?
I've had problems in the past with this. The NIC would fail to get a link on gigabit network.
The solution was then to replace the e1000 driver with a newer one from Intel's homepage (it was easy to compile and install).
I havn't seen problems in F10, so you might want to consider upgrading the no longer supported F8.
Mogens
-- Mogens Kjaer, Carlsberg A/S, Computer Department Gamle Carlsberg Vej 10, DK-2500 Valby, Denmark Phone: +45 33 27 53 25, Mobile: +45 22 12 53 25 Email: mk@crc.dk Homepage: http://www.crc.dk
Message: 16 Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:07:41 +0100 From: Gijs info@boer-software-en-webservices.nl Subject: Re: Problem with E1000 module or Intel 82541PI network card To: "Community assistance, encouragement, and advice for using Fedora." fedora-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 49A2837D.3010104@boer-software-en-webservices.nl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Mogens Kjaer wrote:
Gijs wrote: ...
I'm running Fedora 8, kernel version 2.6.26.8-57.fc8. Does anyone else have a similar problem with this type of card/module?
I've had problems in the past with this. The NIC would fail to get a link on gigabit network.
The solution was then to replace the e1000 driver with a newer one from Intel's homepage (it was easy to compile and install).
I havn't seen problems in F10, so you might want to consider upgrading the no longer supported F8.
Mogens
Ok, thanks for your reply. If I have some sparetime I guess I'll have to upgrade then. Needed to upgrade anyway but didn't really feel like it untill now :)
Thanks again.
Regards, Gijs
-- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
End of fedora-list Digest, Vol 60, Issue 181
On Monday 23 February 2009 11:20:28 Indy Guide wrote:
I think ill just go ahead and upgrade now
For that one line, your message was 67.3Kb. Please have a thought for users with capped downloads and/or expensive dial-up. And yes, there are users of both kinds.
Anne
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 12:36 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Monday 23 February 2009 11:20:28 Indy Guide wrote:
I think ill just go ahead and upgrade now
For that one line, your message was 67.3Kb. Please have a thought for users with capped downloads and/or expensive dial-up. And yes, there are users of both kinds.
Not to mention the completely useless Subject line.
poc