I have machines running both F11 and F12 - in F12 if there are updates available then the PackageKit icon pops onto the (gnome) taskbar, and if I then use yum on the CLI to update the system the icon on the taskbar goes away once the updates are complete. Presumably if I allowed PackageKit to run the updates then the same would happen. (Often I update from another machine via ssh which is why yum is my preferred update method)
On the other hand on my F11 machine when the updates notification pops up, if I use yum to update the system then the icon remains and does not magically disappear from the taskbar until I log out and back in again - this is with the gnome desktop.
Am I alone or do other users see this also? It is not a major problem but is a slight irritation!
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:37:19PM +0100, mike cloaked wrote:
On the other hand on my F11 machine when the updates notification pops up, if I use yum to update the system then the icon remains and does not magically disappear from the taskbar until I log out and back in again - this is with the gnome desktop.
Am I alone or do other users see this also? It is not a major problem but is a slight irritation!
I'm running F11 and Gnome and sometimes I use yum or if I'm feeling lazy I just click on the PackageKit icon and let it do the updates. Either way the icon goes away afterwards. Sometimes it may take a few minutes because PackageKit obviously has to do the equivalent of a yum check-update to see what you've updated. I know this because if do a yum from the command line and only update some of the packages and then try immediately to do another yum update there is a lock in place.
I think I'd be irritated if it didn't go away because it should allow you to use yum in preference to the GUI.
Sorry not to be more help. Kelly
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Kelly Dunlop kelly@xyzzy.org.uk wrote:
I'm running F11 and Gnome and sometimes I use yum or if I'm feeling lazy I just click on the PackageKit icon and let it do the updates. Either way the icon goes away afterwards. Sometimes it may take a few minutes because PackageKit obviously has to do the equivalent of a yum check-update to see what you've updated. I know this because if do a yum from the command line and only update some of the packages and then try immediately to do another yum update there is a lock in place.
I think I'd be irritated if it didn't go away because it should allow you to use yum in preference to the GUI.
Well interestingly I set the preferences to never check for updates or major upgrades and to never install and yet it still does pop up so it must still actually check for updates - I know that I could uninstall gnome packagekit altogether but it is a bit disconcerting that it appears to still check for updates when you asked it not to!
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 01:58:31PM +0100, mike cloaked wrote:
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Kelly Dunlop kelly@xyzzy.org.uk wrote:
I'm running F11 and Gnome and sometimes I use yum or if I'm feeling lazy I just click on the PackageKit icon and let it do the updates. ?Either way the icon goes away afterwards. ?Sometimes it may take a few minutes because PackageKit obviously has to do the equivalent of a yum check-update to see what you've updated. ? I know this because if do a yum from the command line and only update some of the packages and then try immediately to do another yum update there is a lock in place.
I think I'd be irritated if it didn't go away because it should allow you to use yum in preference to the GUI.
Well interestingly I set the preferences to never check for updates or major upgrades and to never install and yet it still does pop up so it must still actually check for updates - I know that I could uninstall gnome packagekit altogether but it is a bit disconcerting that it appears to still check for updates when you asked it not to!
To be honest I probably did the same thing because I'd rather update things when I want to but I'm not actually by the machine at the moment - it's at home. I'll try and see what I have it set to tonight and let you know.
Kelly
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Kelly Dunlop kelly@xyzzy.org.uk wrote:
Well interestingly I set the preferences to never check for updates or major upgrades and to never install and yet it still does pop up so it must still actually check for updates - I know that I could uninstall gnome packagekit altogether but it is a bit disconcerting that it appears to still check for updates when you asked it not to!
To be honest I probably did the same thing because I'd rather update things when I want to but I'm not actually by the machine at the moment - it's at home. I'll try and see what I have it set to tonight and let you know.
Kelly
OK - interestingly I decided to change the settings so that the update check was hourly - then at the next check the icon DID disappear as expected - but if it is set to never check for updates then it still seems to check and then never get rid of the icon after the yum update which I suspect is a bug in the F11 version!
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 13:58 +0100, mike cloaked wrote:
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Kelly Dunlop kelly@xyzzy.org.uk wrote:
I'm running F11 and Gnome and sometimes I use yum or if I'm feeling lazy I just click on the PackageKit icon and let it do the updates. Either way the icon goes away afterwards. Sometimes it may take a few minutes because PackageKit obviously has to do the equivalent of a yum check-update to see what you've updated. I know this because if do a yum from the command line and only update some of the packages and then try immediately to do another yum update there is a lock in place.
I think I'd be irritated if it didn't go away because it should allow you to use yum in preference to the GUI.
Well interestingly I set the preferences to never check for updates or major upgrades and to never install and yet it still does pop up so it must still actually check for updates - I know that I could uninstall gnome packagekit altogether but it is a bit disconcerting that it appears to still check for updates when you asked it not to!
-- mike c
The same happens in my Fedora 12 (Gnome), so the bug is not only for Fedora 11.
Cheers, G.
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 03:36:15PM +0100, mike cloaked wrote:
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Kelly Dunlop kelly@xyzzy.org.uk wrote:
Well interestingly I set the preferences to never check for updates or major upgrades and to never install and yet it still does pop up so it must still actually check for updates - I know that I could uninstall gnome packagekit altogether but it is a bit disconcerting that it appears to still check for updates when you asked it not to!
To be honest I probably did the same thing because I'd rather update things when I want to but I'm not actually by the machine at the moment - it's at home. I'll try and see what I have it set to tonight and let you know.
Kelly
OK - interestingly I decided to change the settings so that the update check was hourly - then at the next check the icon DID disappear as expected - but if it is set to never check for updates then it still seems to check and then never get rid of the icon after the yum update which I suspect is a bug in the F11 version!
I got a chance to have a little look and I was set up to do the update check daily but never to do any updates. So I updated some of the packets using yum and then packagekit updated the icon in line with what I'd done.
Then I changed the update check to hourly and updated, again using yum, the rest of the packages and it cleared the icon as expected.
I guess as you're getting the icon you must have the packagekit daemon running properly so I'm not sure where to look next.
Kelly
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