Can anyone explain the deal with the GNOME sticky notes applet and its disappearance in Fedora 12?
There's a blanket comment in the release notes of its being replaced by gnote, but IMHO they're different beasts. This is not helped by the fact that the so-called sticky-notes-importer plugin for gnote doesn't (well, didn't for me or my wife's notes).
The GNOME guys, a few years back, apparently decided that stickynotes ought to be deprecated in favour of TomBoy, as SN replicated some of TB's functionality, but gnote still isn't, AFAIK, a full-functionality replacement for TomBoy, and since there *are* aspects of stickynotes that aren't replicated¹ (again, AFAICS) by gnote, the whole thing seems a bit premature.
I do also use a 'proper' notes app. (tuxcards, as it happens, for it's ability to encrypt pages - does gnote?), so can't understand the argument that the one app. can do both jobs.
Looking at the RPMs now, it doesn't even look as if GNOME have formally deprecated it yet; the removal is uniquely part of the Fedora RPMs.
¹ - like being able to have important but short-life-span notes in your face on the desktop.
Neil Bird wrote:
Can anyone explain the deal with the GNOME sticky notes applet and its
disappearance in Fedora 12?
My limited understanding of it is that the sticky-notes applet was being changed to support scrolling windows and other new features, but suffers from a crashing bug that prevents its usage. Instead of fixing the bug the configure lines to build it were commented out!
I copied in the previous version code with a custom RPM and I am happily using sticky notes. I cannot use gnotes or Tomboy as I do not like the space taken up by the menu bars and the task tray. I keep my notes always displaying, not hidden. If I find time I'll try to fix the crashing bug or create a patch to use the older code. However, the older code isn't much better as there seems to be a nasty bug where the notes are deleted upon rebooting at random.
Around about 16/03/10 14:45, Michael Cronenworth typed ...
I copied in the previous version code with a custom RPM and I am happily using sticky notes.
What version are you using?
My approach till now had been to grab an older SRPM (may even have been from F10 which is what I had before my last upgrade), rebrand it and rip out all but the sticky notes, but it's suffering a bit.
I think the main issue with mine is that the .ui XML file isn't loaded correctly, so the per-note prefs. window is empty and I can't delete notes as neither button on the 'are you sure' prompt does anything (I have to close that with the WM close button).
I've only just noticed this morning that the current F12 gnome-applets RPM can be nobbled to re-introduce the applet, so don't know how that will fare.
Neil Bird wrote:
What version are you using?
gnome-applets-2.28.0-2.1.fc12 with the stickynotes code from gnome-applets-2.26.3-1.fc11
I think the main issue with mine is that the .ui XML file isn't loaded
correctly, so the per-note prefs. window is empty and I can't delete notes as neither button on the 'are you sure' prompt does anything (I have to close that with the WM close button).
If you erase the contents of a note, then click on delete, it will delete. Another crazy bug.
I've only just noticed this morning that the current F12 gnome-applets
RPM can be nobbled to re-introduce the applet, so don't know how that will fare.
That won't work, as I stated in my first message. The new code suffers from a crashing bug.
Around about 16/03/10 15:16, Michael Cronenworth typed ...
gnome-applets-2.28.0-2.1.fc12 with the stickynotes code from gnome-applets-2.26.3-1.fc11
If you erase the contents of a note, then click on delete, it will delete. Another crazy bug.
OK, thanks for that.
The following may well be the crash (and fix):
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=594797
The patch has been applied upstream, it's just the stickynotes.ui GtkBuilder input file.
I still haven't found a formal statement of deprecation from the GNOME guys (except the 2005 meeting notes I mentioned before); indeed, quite the opposite: the GNOME git logs show stickynotes being forcibly re-introduced as a build-default in configure.in.
So I'm still not really sure where the Fedora packages get off removing it :-/
Around about 17/03/10 10:29, Neil Bird typed ...
This bugfix, applied to the current Fedora SRPM (along with re-enabling stickynotes) fixes the crash and all other bugs I've seen mentioned.
The only issue I now have with it is that you can't bring up the context menu on a sticky note's title-bar (e.g., to change its properties), you just get a single horizontal line and not a menu. I've not looked into why.
Everything else works a treat.
Still annoyed that Fedora have canned it when it seems GNOME havne't [yet].