Hi all,
I'm working on my laptop to better use mic, headphone and speaker (internal and external).
The laptop is a Vaio VGN-FW11E and the sound card is
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 9035 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 22 Memory at d5200000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [70] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel <?> Capabilities: [130] Root Complex Link <?> Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 Audio device [Radeon HD 34xx Series] Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 9035 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17 Memory at d0030000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [58] Express Legacy Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [a0] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [100] Vendor Specific Information <?> Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
With a standard Fedora 9 installation (updated) I can use the speaker and an external mic. I can use also the camera but not the internal mic (that I think is present near the camera). Alsamixer and kmix do not show options for mic other that "Front mic". When I insert headphone, the speaker continue to sound (and also the headphone).
I tried to use other models for hda-intel driver using the options files in /etc/modprobe.d whith options snd-hda-intel model=hippo headphone inserting mute the speaker, but mic do not work kmix shows mic - front mic - line - CD as input source but noone works without an external mic
with options snd-hda-intel model=sony-assamd is the same but with less options as input and output.
Someone can help my to found the right model?
Alsa modules installed are alsa-lib-1.0.17-2.fc9.i386.rpm alsa-utils-1.0.17-2.fc9.i386.rpm
tnx to all Ambrogio
Ambrogio wrote:
Hi all,
I'm working on my laptop to better use mic, headphone and speaker (internal and external).
The laptop is a Vaio VGN-FW11E and the sound card is
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 9035 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 22 Memory at d5200000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [70] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel <?> Capabilities: [130] Root Complex Link <?> Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 Audio device [Radeon HD 34xx Series] Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 9035 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17 Memory at d0030000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [58] Express Legacy Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [a0] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [100] Vendor Specific Information <?> Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
With a standard Fedora 9 installation (updated) I can use the speaker and an external mic. I can use also the camera but not the internal mic (that I think is present near the camera). Alsamixer and kmix do not show options for mic other that "Front mic". When I insert headphone, the speaker continue to sound (and also the headphone).
I tried to use other models for hda-intel driver using the options files in /etc/modprobe.d whith options snd-hda-intel model=hippo headphone inserting mute the speaker, but mic do not work kmix shows mic - front mic - line - CD as input source but noone works without an external mic
with options snd-hda-intel model=sony-assamd is the same but with less options as input and output.
Someone can help my to found the right model?
Alsa modules installed are alsa-lib-1.0.17-2.fc9.i386.rpm alsa-utils-1.0.17-2.fc9.i386.rpm
Have you removed PulseAudio? No, not disabled... Warning, some other things may stop working, but if what you need works it may be a lesser evil. FC10 could be made to work with PA if you wasted^H^H^H^H^H^Hspent enough time onthe config, and FC11 has taken away the sliders. I have been unable to get sound working at all on FC11, I just have put that on my personal blocker list for installing FC11 on a machine which needs sound.
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Bill Davidsen davidsen@tmr.com wrote:
Ambrogio wrote:
Hi all,
I'm working on my laptop to better use mic, headphone and speaker (internal and external).
The laptop is a Vaio VGN-FW11E and the sound card is 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 9035 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 22 Memory at d5200000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [60] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [70] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel <?> Capabilities: [130] Root Complex Link <?> Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 Audio device [Radeon HD 34xx Series] Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 9035 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17 Memory at d0030000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [58] Express Legacy Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [a0] Message Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit+ Queue=0/0 Enable- Capabilities: [100] Vendor Specific Information <?> Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
With a standard Fedora 9 installation (updated) I can use the speaker and an external mic. I can use also the camera but not the internal mic (that I think is present near the camera). Alsamixer and kmix do not show options for mic other that "Front mic". When I insert headphone, the speaker continue to sound (and also the headphone).
I tried to use other models for hda-intel driver using the options files in /etc/modprobe.d whith options snd-hda-intel model=hippo headphone inserting mute the speaker, but mic do not work kmix shows mic - front mic - line - CD as input source but noone works without an external mic
with options snd-hda-intel model=sony-assamd is the same but with less options as input and output.
Someone can help my to found the right model?
Alsa modules installed are alsa-lib-1.0.17-2.fc9.i386.rpm alsa-utils-1.0.17-2.fc9.i386.rpm
Have you removed PulseAudio? No, not disabled... Warning, some other
things may stop working, but if what you need works it may be a lesser evil. FC10 could be made to work with PA if you wasted^H^H^H^H^H^Hspent enough time onthe config, and FC11 has taken away the sliders. I have been unable to get sound working at all on FC11, I just have put that on my personal blocker list for installing FC11 on a machine which needs sound.
This has nothing to do with pulseaudio. The internal mic is generally a digital mic. Using "alsamixer -c 0" should show an option to select the digital or the analog (external) mic. However, this depends on the alsa driver being used. The current stable version is 1.0.20, but Fedora is always behind.
I can select the digital mic on my Dell Vostro laptop, but the sound is too low to be useful, and I prefer to use the external anlog mic, than spenting days on the alsa development list because of that.
Il giorno sab, 23/05/2009 alle 20.30 -0400, Bill Davidsen ha scritto:
Have you removed PulseAudio? No, not disabled...
Not in this installation. I removed pulseaudio on FC8 on another laptop.
Warning, some other things may stop working, but if what you need works it may be a lesser evil. FC10 could be made to work with PA if you wasted^H^H^H^H^H^Hspent enough time onthe config, and FC11 has taken away the sliders. I have been unable to get sound working at all on FC11, I just have put that on my personal blocker list for installing FC11 on a machine which needs sound.
I didn't spent time in configuration of pulse audio because I don't know where to start. I don't know well the audio system on Linux so I start learning a bit on ALSA. I understoud that it's a big planet.
I will continue with the external mic :-) But I can test something if someone want to understand and solve the problem.
Tnx to all Ambrogio
On Sunday 24 May 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Bill Davidsen wrote:
Have you removed PulseAudio? No, not disabled...
That's like suggesting to amputate a male genital as a remedy for impotence.
Kevin Kofler
Ah Contraire, fixed me right up, its all working now. That which rpm could remove without wiping the drive & starting over was removed. Now it Just Works(TM).
Gene Heskett wrote:
Ah Contraire, fixed me right up, its all working now. That which rpm could remove without wiping the drive & starting over was removed. Now it Just Works(TM).
Try playing more than one sound at the time without PulseAudio, the second app will report a "sound device busy" error instead of getting the sound properly mixed (unless you're one of those lucky people with hardware mixing).
Kevin Kofler
On Sunday 24 May 2009, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Gene Heskett wrote:
Ah Contraire, fixed me right up, its all working now. That which rpm could remove without wiping the drive & starting over was removed. Now it Just Works(TM).
Try playing more than one sound at the time without PulseAudio, the second app will report a "sound device busy" error instead of getting the sound properly mixed (unless you're one of those lucky people with hardware mixing).
Of course I am Kevin, its an audigy2, SBO400 chipset, not one of those $7 cards or $2 chipsets built into the motherboard. My biggest problem is in convincing the system that it should ignore all the other crap (there is some sort of an HDA audio on my video card that is not even bonded out but it finds it nevertheless, and the crippled ac97 stuff that you cannot seem to disable on the motherboard itself) and actually use the Audigy2 for everything except maybe skype. Once I have done that, then it all Just Works(TM). I probably COULD use pulse, if it had a configuration utility that worked, but if I allow it to run, then I believe it is redirecting the audio to one of the other 2 audio systems. IF pulse would take directions from my modprobe.conf, maybe it might work. But it thinks it knows best, like a child that has never been taught the meaning of the word no.
If we had the tools to configure it (AFAIAC we have exactly zero tools for that), you would cut the traffic about pulse on this list by at least 95% cuz folks could actually make it work.
Unforch, every one of those tools someone has recommended I try, has absolutely NO knowledge of any audio that may be available on the system but its own choice, and it will not even tell you what its choice is. It just is.
I am reminded of that saying about the word assume.
For those with more than one channel of audio available, pulse is broken by design, and after what, 2 years now, it is patently apparent to me that it will never be fixed to the point where it will ever be usable for that 10% of the users who want better audio.
Go ahead, make a liar out of me with F11 when it is out, but I have the price of a 12 pack of suds that nothing will have been done to make it useable for those like me with more than 1 audio system. Here in WV, Michelob Ultra is about 11$ a 12 pack, so that is the bet I offer.
Bet?