Installing MATE

[Bill Davidsen]

I got some questions about MATE and wanted to install it and actually see how it 
worked. I started with a machine on fc17, which had Cinnamon and XFCE installed. 
After doing the yum install, I don't see MATE in the list of managers available 
at login. Before I spend a lot of time in documentation, it this normal? Does it 
not drop in like KDE, etc?

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Bill Davidsen <davidsen(a)tmr.com&gt;
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot

[Bill Davidsen]

Ed Greshko wrote:
>  On 09/17/2012 08:29 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > I got some questions about MATE and wanted to install it and actually see how it
> worked. I started with a machine on fc17, which had Cinnamon and XFCE installed. After
> doing the yum install, I don't see MATE in the list of managers available at login.
> Before I spend a lot of time in documentation, it this normal? Does it not drop in like
> KDE, etc?
> >
>
>  MATE is not currently in the Fedora repositories.
>  
Okay, that explaines it, I thought the stuff called mate-window-manager, which 
really is most definitely in the Fedora repositories, was the mate I wanted.
mate-window-manager.i686                     1.4.0-3.fc17               updates
mate-window-manager-devel.i686               1.4.0-3.fc17               updates
mate-window-manager-libs.i686                1.4.0-3.fc17               updates

So what on Earth is the stuff in the repository, then?

>  To install, follow the instructions at
> http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download  ....  Which are...
>
>  yum install
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49862637/Mate-desktop/mate-desktop-fedora-update...
>
>  yum groupinstall MATE-Desktop
>
>  FYI.... http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MATE-Desktop  contains the status for
> inclusion of MATE in F18.
>  

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Bill Davidsen <davidsen(a)tmr.com&gt;
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot

[Rex Dieter]

Bill Davidsen wrote:

>  Ed Greshko wrote:
> > On 09/17/2012 08:29 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> >> I got some questions about MATE and wanted to install it and actually
> >> see how it worked. I started with a machine on fc17, which had Cinnamon
> >> and XFCE installed. After doing the yum install, I don't see MATE in the
> >> list of managers available at login. Before I spend a lot of time in
> >> documentation, it this normal? Does it not drop in like KDE, etc?
> >>
> >
> > MATE is not currently in the Fedora repositories.
> >
>  Okay, that explaines it, I thought the stuff called mate-window-manager,
>  which really is most definitely in the Fedora repositories, was the mate I
>  wanted.
>  mate-window-manager.i686                     1.4.0-3.fc17              
>  updates
>  mate-window-manager-devel.i686               1.4.0-3.fc17              
>  updates
>  mate-window-manager-libs.i686                1.4.0-3.fc17              
>  updates
>  
>  So what on Earth is the stuff in the repository, then? 
Some intermediate f17 packages made their way into updates as a way to test 
things for the ongoing f18 feature efforts.  for better or worse, this  
conflicted  with the obs/dropbox mate repo packages, so we  (fedora) aren't 
adding any new packages to f17, at least  until the f18 efforts are 100% 
complete.


> > FYI.... http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MATE-Desktop 
> contains the
> > status for inclusion of MATE in F18.

[Bill Davidsen]

Ed Greshko wrote:
>  On 09/18/2012 12:32 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > Okay, so the MATE stuff is in the Fedora repository but doesn't seem to work and
> conflicts with the repository which might work. I will just tell the user with the the
> problem that it's not actually supported in fc17 even though it is there in the repo.
> The user has already had more luck than I have, got it to come up and not work, as opposed
> to not even be on the menu.
>
>  FYI, I installed MATE from the obs/dropbox on F17 and it seems to work just fine.
>  
Thanks, if I hadn't installed on my toybox from the Fedora repos I would try, 
but it looks like not only conflicts but removing (-e) the Fedora versions would 
take fiddling with yum options to avoid removing things needed elsewhere.

Looks like it works well on MINT as well, so fc18 should have few issues.

-- 
Bill Davidsen <davidsen(a)tmr.com&gt;
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot

[Ed Greshko]

On 09/18/2012 12:32 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>  Okay, so the MATE stuff is in the Fedora repository but doesn't
> seem to work and conflicts with the repository which might work. I will just tell the user
> with the the problem that it's not actually supported in fc17 even though it is there
> in the repo. The user has already had more luck than I have, got it to come up and not
> work, as opposed to not even be on the menu.  
FYI, I installed MATE from the obs/dropbox on F17 and it seems to work just fine.

-- 
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better
idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far,
the Universe is winning. -- Rick Cook, The Wizardry Compiled

[Bill Davidsen]

Rex Dieter wrote:
>  Bill Davidsen wrote:
>
> > Ed Greshko wrote:
> >> On 09/17/2012 08:29 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> >>> I got some questions about MATE and wanted to install it and actually
> >>> see how it worked. I started with a machine on fc17, which had Cinnamon
> >>> and XFCE installed. After doing the yum install, I don't see MATE in the
> >>> list of managers available at login. Before I spend a lot of time in
> >>> documentation, it this normal? Does it not drop in like KDE, etc?
> >>>
> >>
> >> MATE is not currently in the Fedora repositories.
> >>
> > Okay, that explaines it, I thought the stuff called mate-window-manager,
> > which really is most definitely in the Fedora repositories, was the mate I
> > wanted.
> > mate-window-manager.i686                     1.4.0-3.fc17
> > updates
> > mate-window-manager-devel.i686               1.4.0-3.fc17
> > updates
> > mate-window-manager-libs.i686                1.4.0-3.fc17
> > updates
> >
> > So what on Earth is the stuff in the repository, then?
>
>  Some intermediate f17 packages made their way into updates as a way to test
>  things for the ongoing f18 feature efforts.  for better or worse, this
>  conflicted  with the obs/dropbox mate repo packages, so we  (fedora) aren't
>  adding any new packages to f17, at least  until the f18 efforts are 100%
>  complete.
>  
Okay, so the MATE stuff is in the Fedora repository but doesn't seem to work
and 
conflicts with the repository which might work. I will just tell the user with 
the the problem that it's not actually supported in fc17 even though it is there 
in the repo. The user has already had more luck than I have, got it to come up 
and not work, as opposed to not even be on the menu.

Thanks for all the info, I dropped it on my fc18 test list.
> >> FYI.... http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MATE-Desktop  contains the
> >> status for inclusion of MATE in F18.
>
>
>  

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Bill Davidsen <davidsen(a)tmr.com&gt;
   "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot

[Jon Ingason]

2012-09-17 02:29, Bill Davidsen skrev:
>  I got some questions about MATE and wanted to install it and
> actually
>  see how it worked. I started with a machine on fc17, which had Cinnamon
>  and XFCE installed. After doing the yum install, I don't see MATE in the
>  list of managers available at login. Before I spend a lot of time in
>  documentation, it this normal? Does it not drop in like KDE, etc?
>  
You will find the soulution in this URL:

http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/session

Or just do

echo "exec ck-launch-session mate-session" > ~/.xinitrc

and then logout and login. Then you get the possiblity to chose either 
Gmome or Mate.

-- 
Regards
Jon Ingason

[Jon Ingason]

2012-09-17 03:49, Ed Greshko skrev:
>  On 09/17/2012 09:35 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > On 09/17/2012 08:29 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> >> I got some questions about MATE and wanted to install it and actually see how it
> worked. I started with a machine on fc17, which had Cinnamon and XFCE installed. After
> doing the yum install, I don't see MATE in the list of managers available at login.
> Before I spend a lot of time in documentation, it this normal? Does it not drop in like
> KDE, etc?
> >>
> > MATE is not currently in the Fedora repositories.
> >
> > To install, follow the instructions at http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download  .... 
> Which are...
> >
> > yum install
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49862637/Mate-desktop/mate-desktop-fedora-update...
> >
> > yum groupinstall MATE-Desktop
> >
> > FYI.... http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MATE-Desktop  contains the status for
> inclusion of MATE in F18.
> >
>
>  I erred in giving you the instructions for F16....  So, just replace 6 with 7 or go to
> their instructions.  :-)
>  
Not so simple, the right URL is:

yum install 
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49862637/Mate-desktop/fedora_17/mate-desktop-fed...

;-)

-- 
Regards
Jon Ingason

[Ed Greshko]

On 09/17/2012 09:35 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>  On 09/17/2012 08:29 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
> > I got some questions about MATE and wanted to install it and actually see how it
> worked. I started with a machine on fc17, which had Cinnamon and XFCE installed. After
> doing the yum install, I don't see MATE in the list of managers available at login.
> Before I spend a lot of time in documentation, it this normal? Does it not drop in like
> KDE, etc?
> >
>  MATE is not currently in the Fedora repositories.
>
>  To install, follow the instructions at http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download  ....  Which
> are...
>
>  yum install
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49862637/Mate-desktop/mate-desktop-fedora-update...
>
>  yum groupinstall MATE-Desktop
>
>  FYI.... http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MATE-Desktop  contains the status for
> inclusion of MATE in F18.
>  
I erred in giving you the instructions for F16....  So, just replace 6 with 7 or go to
their instructions.  :-)

-- 
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better
idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far,
the Universe is winning. -- Rick Cook, The Wizardry Compiled

[Ed Greshko]

On 09/17/2012 08:29 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
>  I got some questions about MATE and wanted to install it and actually
> see how it worked. I started with a machine on fc17, which had Cinnamon and XFCE
> installed. After doing the yum install, I don't see MATE in the list of managers
> available at login. Before I spend a lot of time in documentation, it this normal? Does it
> not drop in like KDE, etc?
>  
MATE is not currently in the Fedora repositories.

To install, follow the instructions at http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download  ....  Which
are...

yum install
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/49862637/Mate-desktop/mate-desktop-fedora-update...

yum groupinstall MATE-Desktop

FYI.... http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MATE-Desktop  contains the status for
inclusion of MATE in F18.

-- 
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better
idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far,
the Universe is winning. -- Rick Cook, The Wizardry Compiled