Fedora for the home user

[Robandapril]

My name is Robert and just thought id pop in to say, Fedora does
sometimes require a little tweaking but  you have to keep in mind that
its made from millions of people things get overlooked sometimes and you
may need to download a couple plugins and such but in my experience its
a great platform to learn from and possibly if your comfortable with it
a great platform to develop. So my advice to you Paswhia is to be
patient read up on release notes and immerse yourself in the fedora
project as a whole  On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 15:03 +0000,
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> Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
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> Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> (Christofer C. Bell)
> Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> (Steve Underwood)
> Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? (Tim)
> install guide to get Fedora 13 on the new 2010 mac mini
> (Jurgen Kramer)
> Re: OT:  Cloud Computing is coming to ...
> (Christopher A. Williams)
> Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> (Parshwa Murdia)
> Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> (Parshwa Murdia)
> Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> (Parshwa Murdia)
> Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> (Parshwa Murdia)
> Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> (Parshwa Murdia)
> Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> (Parshwa Murdia)
> Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> (Parshwa Murdia)
> Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> (Parshwa Murdia)
> Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> (Parshwa Murdia)
> Re: Java Support in Firefox (Parshwa Murdia)
> Re: Java Support in Firefox (Parshwa Murdia)
> Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one?? (Tim)
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> > From: Thomas Taylor 
> > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> > Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:51:56 -0700
> >
> > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:51:50 +0530
> > Parshwa Murdia  wrote:
> > > thanks a lot for the suggestions and the simple purpose why  did i ask
> > > is that fedora is not as common as was windows but is slowly now
> > > replacing it. i would have to see one book for this.
> >
> > Hi, Parshwa;
> >
> > I've been following this thread for some time now.  Had to go back to the
> > original message since the responses seem to have covered about every topic
> > except the original one.  I'll asume you now have some kind of internet
> > connection since you seem able to respond fairly rapidly.
> >
> > One very good reference, if it's available where you are, is Linux Pro
> > Magazine.  They have aeveral tutorials each issue along with good information
> > and free distros from different producers.  Another good resource would be the
> > Linux or Fedora Bible series.  Lots of good information, how-tos, comparisons
> > of different ways to accomplish a goal and why, etc.
> >
> > I learned much of my linux knowledge from RedHat when they had the 5.x series
> > (before Fedora).  Yes, Fedora is a bit harder to learn from as a beginning
> > point, but you learn more that way.  Not just knowledge, but also the hows and
> > whys of things.  Keep up learning and in a while you'll get where you want to
> > be.
> >
> > Tom
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> > From: Tim 
> > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > To: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:37:35 +0930
> >
> > On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 04:50 +0000, g wrote:
> > > if you are meaning 'windows', as in 'ms windows', bill gates stoled
> > > concept from 'apple computers'. plus there was a big stink about bg&c
> > > using exact same 'trash can' icon.
> >
> > The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them.  Hint:  Lisa.
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> > From: g 
> > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users
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> > To: fedora users 
> > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:04:28 +0000
> >
> > Tim wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> > > The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them.  Hint:  Lisa.
> >
> > 'apple lisa' is the system i was referencing to.
>
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> > From: Christofer C. Bell 
> > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > To: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:15:17 -0500
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:04 AM, g  wrote:
> > > Tim wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > > > The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them.  Hint:  Lisa.
> > >
> > > 'apple lisa' is the system i was referencing to.
> >
> > The concept of having a "desktop" with "windows" was invented by Xerox
> > PARC in 1973 and implemented on the Alto computer.  That predates
> > pretty much everything else being discussed here.
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> > From: Steve Underwood 
> > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users
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> > To: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:24:27 +0800
> >
> > On 07/24/2010 05:15 PM, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 4:04 AM, g  wrote:
> > > > Tim wrote:
> > > >
> > > > <snip>
> > > > > The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them.  Hint:  Lisa.
> > > >
> > > > 'apple lisa' is the system i was referencing to.
> > >
> > > The concept of having a "desktop" with "windows" was invented by Xerox
> > > PARC in 1973 and implemented on the Alto computer.  That predates
> > > pretty much everything else being discussed here.
> >
> > The concept of a "desktop" with "windows" dates back to the work of Doug 
> > Engelbart in the 50s and 60s, starting well before even a basic 
> > implementation was feasible. Look him up. He was a true visionary.
> >
> > Steve
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> > From: Tim 
> > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > To: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:58:24 +0930
> >
> > Tim:
> > > > The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them.  Hint:  Lisa.
> >
> > g:
> > > 'apple lisa' is the system i was referencing to.
> >
> > A second hint:  Xerox.
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> > From: Jurgen Kramer 
> > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > To: [e-mail]
> > Subject: install guide to get Fedora 13 on the new 2010 mac mini
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:43:33 +0200
> >
> > Just for the interested...
> >
> > I've finally managed to get F13 working properly on the new 2010 mac
> > mini. I use it as a MythTV frontend. There are some caveats and issues
> > regarding SATA and HDMI audio which need to be resolved so I've put
> > together a short guide how to get Fedora 13 (x86_64) on the mini.
> >
> > http://www.xs4all.nl/~slimnet/
> >
> > Jurgen
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> > To: Community support for Fedora users
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> > Subject: Re: OT: Cloud Computing is coming to ...
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:36:52 -0600
> >
> > On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 16:23 +1000, Roger wrote:
> > > On 07/24/2010 01:32 PM, Nathan W wrote:
> > > > *snip*
> > > > > I don't pretend to know what's coming, but I do know that
> > > > > when stuff is outside my house it can be priced annually, it can be
> > > > > arbitrarily withheld, it can be surveiled, it can be compromised by
> > > > > those who have direct physical access, and it is not something I really
> > > > > want or need. Just my honest opinion.
> > > >
> > > > a hearty +1
> > >
> > > Something I have an inherent distrust for.
> >
> > ...So does this also mean you have the same inherent distrust for that
> > private internal cloud? You know the one that sits inside of your house
> > and that you control?
> >
> > The problem here is that you have co-opted the very definition of cloud
> > computing into something that it is not. And then based on that,
> > continue to criticize it. I really think the problem is that you fear a
> > technology that you clearly do not understand.
> >
> > Many people have stated that public cloud has relatively little value
> > for use cases such as yours. We're all OK with that.
> >
> > ...But, with your current arguments, you should also be distrusting that
> > internet service connection you're using to get to this list.
>
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> > From: Parshwa Murdia 
> > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > To: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:52:42 +0530
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 8:09 AM, g  wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > I try that way, using Ctrl+shift keys
> >
> > Regards,
> > Parshwa Murdia
>
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> > From: Parshwa Murdia 
> > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users
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> > To: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:54:19 +0530
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 8:18 AM, g  wrote:
> > > if 'pop up blocker' notice shows, hold down <ctrl>, <alt>, or <shift> key.
> >
> > Pop up blocker is not the problem, but what the problem is, that it
> > shows "applet started" at the bottom of the table i join but the table
> > never gets started for playing!!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Parshwa Murdia
>
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> > From: Parshwa Murdia 
> > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > To: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:55:18 +0530
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:20 AM, g  wrote:
> > > if you are meaning 'windows', as in 'ms windows', bill gates stoled
> > > concept from 'apple computers'. plus there was a big stink about bg&c
> > > using exact same 'trash can' icon.
> > >
> > > linux was not even around at that time.
> >
> > Really, the battle of Windows vs Linux.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Parshwa Murdia
>
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> > From: Parshwa Murdia 
> > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > To: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:58:50 +0530
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Thomas Taylor  wrote:
> > > Hi, Parshwa;
> >
> > Hello
> > > I've been following this thread for some time now. Had to go back to the
> > > original message since the responses seem to have covered about every topic
> > > except the original one.I'll asume you now have some kind of internet
> > > connection since you seem able to respond fairly rapidly.
> >
> > Yes, I have internet connection but don't sit all the time, when get
> > time or I feel to sit to, I do.
> > > One very good reference, if it's available where you are, is Linux Pro
> > > Magazine. They have aeveral tutorials each issue along with good information
> > > and free distros from different producers. Another good resource would be the
> > > Linux or Fedora Bible series.
> >
> > This Bible series, I have for fedora 10. (The book i mean), i said
> > this in my earlier post, you might have seen since you gone back to
> > the original thread also.
> > > Lots of good information, how-tos, comparisons
> > > of different ways to accomplish a goal and why, etc.
> >
> > Yes, indeed.
> > > I learned much of my linux knowledge from RedHat when they had the 5.x series
> > > (before Fedora). Yes, Fedora is a bit harder to learn from as a beginning
> > > point, but you learn more that way. Not just knowledge, but also the hows and
> > > whys of things. Keep up learning and in a while you'll get where you want to
> > > be.
> >
> > Yes, thanks.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Parshwa Murdia
>
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> >
> > To: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:59:29 +0530
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Tim  wrote:
> > > The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them. Hint: Lisa.
> >
> > Oh I see.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Parshwa Murdia
>
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> >
> > To: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:00:11 +0530
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:34 PM, g  wrote:
> > > 'apple lisa' is the system i was referencing to.
> >
> > Oh.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Parshwa Murdia
>
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> >
> > To: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:01:32 +0530
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Christofer C. Bell
> >  wrote:
> > > The concept of having a "desktop" with "windows" was invented by Xerox
> > > PARC in 1973 and implemented on the Alto computer. That predates
> > > pretty much everything else being discussed here.
> >
> > Ok, but the history is really very wide, in different-different parts
> > of the world they did research.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Parshwa Murdia
>
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> >
> > To: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:02:35 +0530
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Steve Underwood  wrote:
> > > The concept of a "desktop" with "windows" dates back to the work of Doug
> > > Engelbart in the 50s and 60s, starting well before even a basic
> > > implementation was feasible. Look him up. He was a true visionary.
> >
> > As I said, really history is very wide. There were many many great
> > minds behind the technology we get today.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Parshwa Murdia
>
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> >
> > To: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:04:13 +0530
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Tim  wrote:
> > > > > The aptly named WIMP interface predates both of them. Hint: Lisa.
> > > g:
> > > > 'apple lisa' is the system i was referencing to.
> > > A second hint: Xerox.
> >
> > Xerox Parc.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Parshwa Murdia
>
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> >
> > To: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > Subject: Re: Java Support in Firefox
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:07:50 +0530
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Paolo Galtieri  wrote:
> > > I have installed the Sun java jdk and linked the plugin library
> > >
> > > ln -s /usr/java/latest/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
> > > /home/pgaltieri/.mozilla/plugins/libnpjp2.so
> > >
> > > I restarted firefox and accessed
> > >
> > > http://www.gokgs.com/applet.jsp
> > >
> > > And it locked firefox up for about 1 minute. During this time clicking
> > > on a tab would do nothing, clicking on the menu bar would do nothing.
> > > After about a minute all my mouse clicks in firefox suddenly caught up,
> > > but it still would not render the applet. On the other hand
> > > google-chrome had no problem rendering it.
> > >
> > > I'm running firefox 3.5.11 on F12 with sun jdk jdk
> >
> > That way works.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Parshwa Murdia
>
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> > From: Parshwa Murdia 
> > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > To: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > Subject: Re: Java Support in Firefox
> > Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:09:27 +0530
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Mark Eggers  wrote:
> > > I wonder if I can convince it to use a Sun-based plugin . . . .
> >
> > Sun Java works very well in Fedora.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Parshwa Murdia
>
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> > From: Tim 
> > Reply-to: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > To: Community support for Fedora users
> >
> > Subject: Re: Anything for home user and not the technical one??
> > Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 00:33:49 +0930
> >
> > On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 17:24 +0800, Steve Underwood wrote:
> > > The concept of a "desktop" with "windows" dates back to the work of
> > > Doug Engelbart in the 50s and 60s, starting well before even a basic 
> > > implementation was feasible. Look him up. He was a true visionary.
> >
> > We have him to blame for the mouse.  Sorry, I just couldn't resist...
>
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[Parshwa Murdia]

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:28 PM, Robandapril  wrote:
> My name is Robert and just thought id pop in to say, Fedora does
> sometimes require a little tweaking but  you have to keep in mind that
> its made from millions of people things get overlooked sometimes and you
> may need to download a couple plugins and such but in my experience its
> a great platform to learn from and possibly if your comfortable with it
> a great platform to develop. So my advice to you Paswhia is to be
> patient read up on release notes and immerse yourself in the fedora
> project as a whole

[very big old snip]

I think you started the new thread with the same content. Hopefully
you might have written for me, but my name is Parshwa. Yes thanks for
the advice.

Conclusion: Fedora is good.

Regards,
Parshwa Murdia

[Robert Myers]

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Parshwa Murdia  wrote:
> Conclusion: Fedora is good.

It's nice to know that the reported death of fanboyism

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/the-age-of-the-fanboy-is-drawing-to-a-clo...

is premature.

Fedora probably *isn't* the best choice for the average home user, but
then you are apparently not the average home user.

Robert.

[Parshwa Murdia]

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Robert Myers  wrote:
> Fedora probably *isn't* the best choice for the average home user, but
> then you are apparently not the average home user.

Okay, but we have joined this listing to know about Fedora!