8:15 p.m.
Greetings all;
My shiney new F13-beta 64 bit install on my HP dv5120u laptop is now failing,
losing all response to a plugged in mouse, the touch pad and keyboard at
about the time it draws the bottom bar on the screen, showing only the 4
workspace icons and the trash can. No other buttons or menu icons get drawn.
The HD activity led is stuck on.
The only response is to the power button after the 4 second delay.
Is there a recommended way to recover? It has been fired up about every 3
days to install updates, but is otherwise as installed, so it could be
considered a failed test.
--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Never insult an alligator until you've crossed the river.
8:51 a.m.
Assuming your running into the same problem as I am, the display doesn't lock up
until you log in. So you can boot to runlevel 5 and hit CTRL-ALT-F2 and open up
a root shell in that VT.
(I'm sure there is a way into grub too, but my machine is currently booted).
Rich
8:51 p.m.
On Wednesday 28 April 2010, Craig White wrote:
On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 19:42 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >A little hint: use yum localinstall (without --), and optional with
> >--nogpgcheck for unsigned packages. It resolves dependecies
> >automatically.
>
> In that event, the friggin help screen is worthless. Sigh.
----
none are so blind as those who do not see
$ yum --help
Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, downloadonly, fastestmirror,
priorities, refresh-packagekit
Usage: yum [options] COMMAND
List of Commands:
check Check for problems in the rpmdb
check-update Check for available package updates
clean Remove cached data
deplist List a package's dependencies
downgrade downgrade a package
erase Remove a package or packages from your system
groupinfo Display details about a package group
groupinstall Install the packages in a group on your system
grouplist List available package groups
groupremove Remove the packages in a group from your system
help Display a helpful usage message
history Display, or use, the transaction history
info Display details about a package or group of packages
install Install a package or packages on your system
list List a package or groups of packages
localinstall Install a local RPM
makecache Generate the metadata cache
provides Find what package provides the given value
reinstall reinstall a package
repolist Display the configured software repositories
resolvedep Determine which package provides the given dependency
search Search package details for the given string
shell Run an interactive yum shell
update Update a package or packages on your system
upgrade Update packages taking obsoletes into account
version Display a version for the machine and/or available repos.
Worthless?
From the error msg: yum --local_install *.rpm
which once x is running is the same as above. I did not see that bit when I
was in run level 3 attempting to run it, and can only surmise that
"localinstall" perhaps scrolled off the screen.
Does yum output the same msg to a vt? I don't know, but what it did spit out
seemed to have no revelence to what I had typed.
The point is now moot as rpm did exactly as told and things are fixed. But
now, after I let it update 100+ packages an hour ago, selinux is producing
kittens, something about ... must be a secret I guess, /var/log/audit, nor
/var/log/setroubleshoot contain anything related to what the popup had me
doing, which was to report it to bugzilla, but I've managed to lose track of
my passwd for bz in all the self destruction F10 underwent from an attempt to
install the latest ati drivers.
For a long time user of Linux, this is a pathetic diatribe. You
should
know how to type 'command --help' and see what is wrong. It is something
you should have learned at least 5 years ago.
At least. So I'll go back to lurking until F13 is out. My lappy isn't doing
anything important, but when an update self-destructed, I made a mistake,
thinking someone would care, and it turns out only one person had what it
took to steer me to the answer.
Thank you Wolfgang.
Craig
--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Obviously I was either onto something, or on something.
-- Larry Wall on the creation of Perl
8:03 p.m.
On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 19:42 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>A little hint: use yum localinstall (without --), and optional
with
>--nogpgcheck for unsigned packages. It resolves dependecies
>automatically.
>
In that event, the friggin help screen is worthless. Sigh.
----
none are so blind as those who do not see
$ yum --help
Loaded plugins: dellsysidplugin2, downloadonly, fastestmirror,
priorities, refresh-packagekit
Usage: yum [options] COMMAND
List of Commands:
check Check for problems in the rpmdb
check-update Check for available package updates
clean Remove cached data
deplist List a package's dependencies
downgrade downgrade a package
erase Remove a package or packages from your system
groupinfo Display details about a package group
groupinstall Install the packages in a group on your system
grouplist List available package groups
groupremove Remove the packages in a group from your system
help Display a helpful usage message
history Display, or use, the transaction history
info Display details about a package or group of packages
install Install a package or packages on your system
list List a package or groups of packages
localinstall Install a local RPM
makecache Generate the metadata cache
provides Find what package provides the given value
reinstall reinstall a package
repolist Display the configured software repositories
resolvedep Determine which package provides the given dependency
search Search package details for the given string
shell Run an interactive yum shell
update Update a package or packages on your system
upgrade Update packages taking obsoletes into account
version Display a version for the machine and/or available repos.
Worthless?
For a long time user of Linux, this is a pathetic diatribe. You should
know how to type 'command --help' and see what is wrong. It is something
you should have learned at least 5 years ago.
Craig
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6:44 p.m.
On Wednesday 28 April 2010, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 09:43:36 -0400,
Gene Heskett <gene.heskett(a)verizon.net> wrote:
> I'm assuming the usual trick of booting to level 3 will work? Ahh, no,
> the boot delay is zero, so there is no chance to edit grub. Or is there
> a magic vulcan nerve pinch for that?
I think even with boot delay set to 0 there is a very short window in which
you can hit a key to get into the menu. If you run into this again, you
can try repeatedly hitting the tab key.
Tab key? First I've heard of that method. Thanks.
--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
<Teller> where am I and what am I doing in this handbasket?
6:42 p.m.
On Wednesday 28 April 2010, Mario Guenterberg wrote:
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:09:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday 28 April 2010, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
> >Gene Heskett <gene.heskett(a)verizon.net> writes:
> >> My shiney new F13-beta 64 bit install on my HP dv5120u laptop is now
> >> failing, losing all response to a plugged in mouse, the touch pad and
> >> keyboard at about the time it draws the bottom bar on the screen,
> >> showing only the 4 workspace icons and the trash can. No other
> >> buttons or menu icons get drawn.
> >
> >Same thing happened here.
> >
> >Are you using f13-beta with compiz? There is a bug in xorg that locks
> >up the display and keyboard when using compiz. The fix is here:
> >
> > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers/80940
> >
> >or in short grab the relevent xorg files and do a "yum --localinstall"
> >of them.
>
> yum --localinstall? yum has no such option there, used rpm -Uvh *.rpm
> after wgetting the files.
A little hint: use yum localinstall (without --), and optional with
--nogpgcheck for unsigned packages. It resolves dependecies
automatically.
In that event, the friggin help screen is worthless. Sigh.
Thanks Mario.
--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
<Teller> where am I and what am I doing in this handbasket?
1:23 p.m.
Gene Heskett <gene.heskett(a)verizon.net> writes:
yum --localinstall? yum has no such option there, used rpm -Uvh
*.rpm after
wgetting the files.
Oops. That's what I get for typing from (non-ecc) memory. As others
figured out I meant "yum localinstall *.rpm"
>
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-server/1.8.0/8.fc13/x8
>6_64/xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.8.0-8.fc13.x86_64.rpm
> http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-server/1.8.0/8.fc13/x8
>6_64/xorg-x11-server-common-1.8.0-8.fc13.x86_64.rpm
Many thanks. Fixed grub.conf while I was in the level 3 mode too. Rebooted,
looks good. Thanks Wolfgang.
My pleasure!
-wolfgang
--
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3
non-overlapping WIFI channels?
1:17 p.m.
Gene Heskett <gene.heskett(a)verizon.net> writes:
On Wednesday 28 April 2010, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
>Gene Heskett <gene.heskett(a)verizon.net> writes:
>> My shiney new F13-beta 64 bit install on my HP dv5120u laptop is now
>> failing, losing all response to a plugged in mouse, the touch pad and
>> keyboard at about the time it draws the bottom bar on the screen, showing
>> only the 4 workspace icons and the trash can. No other buttons or menu
>> icons get drawn.
>
>Same thing happened here.
>
>Are you using f13-beta with compiz? There is a bug in xorg that locks
>up the display and keyboard when using compiz. The fix is here:
>
> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers/80940
>
>or in short grab the relevent xorg files and do a "yum --localinstall"
>of them.
>
>
> http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-server/1.8.0/8.fc13/x8
>6_64/xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.8.0-8.fc13.x86_64.rpm
> http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-server/1.8.0/8.fc13/x8
>6_64/xorg-x11-server-common-1.8.0-8.fc13.x86_64.rpm
>
>-wolfgang
>
I'm assuming the usual trick of booting to level 3 will work? Ahh, no, the
boot delay is zero, so there is no chance to edit grub. Or is there a magic
vulcan nerve pinch for that?
I always create a pristine user as a fallback whenever I install, so
after forcefully rebooting with a long power-button press I logged into
that user. You can also switch to an alternate vt with alt-control-f2.
Interestingly, you can also ssh in. The computer itself is functional.
Only the console is affected.
-wolfgang
--
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3
non-overlapping WIFI channels?
11:39 a.m.
On Wednesday 28 April 2010 07:09 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Wednesday 28 April 2010, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
> Gene Heskett<gene.heskett(a)verizon.net> writes:
>> My shiney new F13-beta 64 bit install on my HP dv5120u laptop is now
>> failing, losing all response to a plugged in mouse, the touch pad and
>> keyboard at about the time it draws the bottom bar on the screen, showing
>> only the 4 workspace icons and the trash can. No other buttons or menu
>> icons get drawn.
>
> Same thing happened here.
>
> Are you using f13-beta with compiz? There is a bug in xorg that locks
> up the display and keyboard when using compiz. The fix is here:
>
> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers/80940
>
> or in short grab the relevent xorg files and do a "yum --localinstall"
> of them.
yum --localinstall? yum has no such option there, used rpm -Uvh *.rpm after
wgetting the files.
I believe what he meant was "yum localinstall /path/to/rpm"
--
Suvayu
Open source is the future. It sets us free.
11:38 a.m.
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:09:39AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Wednesday 28 April 2010, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
>Gene Heskett <gene.heskett(a)verizon.net> writes:
>> My shiney new F13-beta 64 bit install on my HP dv5120u laptop is now
>> failing, losing all response to a plugged in mouse, the touch pad and
>> keyboard at about the time it draws the bottom bar on the screen, showing
>> only the 4 workspace icons and the trash can. No other buttons or menu
>> icons get drawn.
>
>Same thing happened here.
>
>Are you using f13-beta with compiz? There is a bug in xorg that locks
>up the display and keyboard when using compiz. The fix is here:
>
> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers/80940
>
>or in short grab the relevent xorg files and do a "yum --localinstall"
>of them.
yum --localinstall? yum has no such option there, used rpm -Uvh *.rpm after
wgetting the files.
A little hint: use yum localinstall (without --), and optional with
--nogpgcheck for unsigned packages. It resolves dependecies
automatically.
Greetings
Mario Guenterberg
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9:13 a.m.
On Wednesday 28 April 2010, Rich Bishop wrote:
Assuming your running into the same problem as I am, the display
doesn't
lock up until you log in. So you can boot to runlevel 5 and hit
CTRL-ALT-F2 and open up a root shell in that VT.
(I'm sure there is a way into grub too, but my machine is currently
booted).
Rich
Precisely Rich. I found a way into grub as it booted, just keep banging on
the e key as soon as the HP bios screen clears.
--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
But, for my own part, it was Greek to me.
-- William Shakespeare, "Julius Caesar"
9:11 a.m.
On Wednesday 28 April 2010, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Wednesday 28 April 2010, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
>Gene Heskett <gene.heskett(a)verizon.net> writes:
>> My shiney new F13-beta 64 bit install on my HP dv5120u laptop is now
>> failing, losing all response to a plugged in mouse, the touch pad and
>> keyboard at about the time it draws the bottom bar on the screen,
>> showing only the 4 workspace icons and the trash can. No other buttons
>> or menu icons get drawn.
>
>Same thing happened here.
>
>Are you using f13-beta with compiz? There is a bug in xorg that locks
>up the display and keyboard when using compiz. The fix is here:
>
> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers/80940
>
>or in short grab the relevent xorg files and do a "yum --localinstall"
>of them.
>
>
> http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-server/1.8.0/8.fc13/x
>8 6_64/xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.8.0-8.fc13.x86_64.rpm
> http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-server/1.8.0/8.fc13/x
>8 6_64/xorg-x11-server-common-1.8.0-8.fc13.x86_64.rpm
>
>-wolfgang
I'm assuming the usual trick of booting to level 3 will work? Ahh, no, the
boot delay is zero, so there is no chance to edit grub. Or is there a
magic vulcan nerve pinch for that?
Found it, just keep banging rapidly on the e key till it sorta works.
--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
<netgod> Feanor: u have no idea of the depth of the stupidty of american law
9:09 a.m.
On Wednesday 28 April 2010, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
Gene Heskett <gene.heskett(a)verizon.net> writes:
> My shiney new F13-beta 64 bit install on my HP dv5120u laptop is now
> failing, losing all response to a plugged in mouse, the touch pad and
> keyboard at about the time it draws the bottom bar on the screen, showing
> only the 4 workspace icons and the trash can. No other buttons or menu
> icons get drawn.
Same thing happened here.
Are you using f13-beta with compiz? There is a bug in xorg that locks
up the display and keyboard when using compiz. The fix is here:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers/80940
or in short grab the relevent xorg files and do a "yum --localinstall"
of them.
yum --localinstall? yum has no such option there, used rpm -Uvh *.rpm after
wgetting the files.
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-server/1.8.0/8.fc13/x8
6_64/xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.8.0-8.fc13.x86_64.rpm
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-server/1.8.0/8.fc13/x8
6_64/xorg-x11-server-common-1.8.0-8.fc13.x86_64.rpm
-wolfgang
Many thanks. Fixed grub.conf while I was in the level 3 mode too. Rebooted,
looks good. Thanks Wolfgang.
--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
<netgod> Feanor: u have no idea of the depth of the stupidty of american law
8:43 a.m.
On Wednesday 28 April 2010, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
Gene Heskett <gene.heskett(a)verizon.net> writes:
> My shiney new F13-beta 64 bit install on my HP dv5120u laptop is now
> failing, losing all response to a plugged in mouse, the touch pad and
> keyboard at about the time it draws the bottom bar on the screen, showing
> only the 4 workspace icons and the trash can. No other buttons or menu
> icons get drawn.
Same thing happened here.
Are you using f13-beta with compiz? There is a bug in xorg that locks
up the display and keyboard when using compiz. The fix is here:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers/80940
or in short grab the relevent xorg files and do a "yum --localinstall"
of them.
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-server/1.8.0/8.fc13/x8
6_64/xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.8.0-8.fc13.x86_64.rpm
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-server/1.8.0/8.fc13/x8
6_64/xorg-x11-server-common-1.8.0-8.fc13.x86_64.rpm
-wolfgang
I'm assuming the usual trick of booting to level 3 will work? Ahh, no, the
boot delay is zero, so there is no chance to edit grub. Or is there a magic
vulcan nerve pinch for that?
--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
You are capable of planning your future.
2:57 a.m.
Gene Heskett <gene.heskett(a)verizon.net> writes:
My shiney new F13-beta 64 bit install on my HP dv5120u laptop is now
failing,
losing all response to a plugged in mouse, the touch pad and keyboard at
about the time it draws the bottom bar on the screen, showing only the 4
workspace icons and the trash can. No other buttons or menu icons get drawn.
Same thing happened here.
Are you using f13-beta with compiz? There is a bug in xorg that locks
up the display and keyboard when using compiz. The fix is here:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.testers/80940
or in short grab the relevent xorg files and do a "yum --localinstall"
of them.
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-server/1.8.0/8.fc13/x...
http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-server/1.8.0/8.fc13/x...
-wolfgang
--
Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
If the airwaves belong to the public why does the public only get 3
non-overlapping WIFI channels?
9:06 p.m.
On 04/28/2010 10:00 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Tuesday 27 April 2010, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 04/28/2010 09:15 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
>> Greetings all;
>>
>> My shiney new F13-beta 64 bit install on my HP dv5120u laptop is now
>> failing, losing all response to a plugged in mouse, the touch pad and
>> keyboard at about the time it draws the bottom bar on the screen, showing
>> only the 4 workspace icons and the trash can. No other buttons or menu
>> icons get drawn.
>>
>> The HD activity led is stuck on.
>>
>> The only response is to the power button after the 4 second delay.
>>
>> Is there a recommended way to recover? It has been fired up about every
>> 3 days to install updates, but is otherwise as installed, so it could be
>> considered a failed test.
>>
> FWIW, F13-Beta issues are probably best addressed/reported in
> test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org. I'm pretty sure the testing community
> would appreciate it.
>
I am not subscribed to that list Ed, and my list pane of kmail already
overflows the height of the screen. Could you fwd it please?
Are you asking me to forward your problem description to the fedora test
list and then send any responses or questions from the list back to
you? IMHO, if someone wants to test the Beta of any software and
subsequently has problems they should join the list devoted to
reporting/fixing problems related to the Beta.
--
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9 p.m.
On Tuesday 27 April 2010, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 04/28/2010 09:15 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
>
> My shiney new F13-beta 64 bit install on my HP dv5120u laptop is now
> failing, losing all response to a plugged in mouse, the touch pad and
> keyboard at about the time it draws the bottom bar on the screen, showing
> only the 4 workspace icons and the trash can. No other buttons or menu
> icons get drawn.
>
> The HD activity led is stuck on.
>
> The only response is to the power button after the 4 second delay.
>
> Is there a recommended way to recover? It has been fired up about every
> 3 days to install updates, but is otherwise as installed, so it could be
> considered a failed test.
FWIW, F13-Beta issues are probably best addressed/reported in
test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org. I'm pretty sure the testing community
would appreciate it.
I am not subscribed to that list Ed, and my list pane of kmail already
overflows the height of the screen. Could you fwd it please?
--
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
BOFH excuse #143:
had to use hammer to free stuck disk drive heads.
8:39 p.m.
On 04/28/2010 09:15 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
Greetings all;
My shiney new F13-beta 64 bit install on my HP dv5120u laptop is now failing,
losing all response to a plugged in mouse, the touch pad and keyboard at
about the time it draws the bottom bar on the screen, showing only the 4
workspace icons and the trash can. No other buttons or menu icons get drawn.
The HD activity led is stuck on.
The only response is to the power button after the 4 second delay.
Is there a recommended way to recover? It has been fired up about every 3
days to install updates, but is otherwise as installed, so it could be
considered a failed test.
FWIW, F13-Beta issues are probably best addressed/reported in
test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org. I'm pretty sure the testing community
would appreciate it.
--
A day without sunshine is like night. Guess Who! http://tinyurl.com/mc4xe7
2:06 p.m.
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 09:43:36 -0400,
Gene Heskett <gene.heskett(a)verizon.net> wrote:
>
I'm assuming the usual trick of booting to level 3 will work? Ahh, no, the
boot delay is zero, so there is no chance to edit grub. Or is there a magic
vulcan nerve pinch for that?
I think even with boot delay set to 0 there is a very short window in which
you can hit a key to get into the menu. If you run into this again, you
can try repeatedly hitting the tab key.
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