Xorg server version?

[Ed Greshko]

OK, I'm confused....

On F12 yum info for xorg-x11-server-Xorg shows...

Name       : xorg-x11-server-Xorg
Version    : 1.7.6
Summary    : Xorg X server
URL        : http://www.x.org

When going go http://www.x.org one reads....

The current X.Org release is X11R7.5
http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.5. The next major release will be
X11R7.6 http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.6.

How does 1.7.6 compare with 7.5 or 7.6?

I'm asking since the current release of opensuse 11.2 has

Name: xorg-x11-server
Version: 7.4-61.63.1

And the problem that I see with the nVidia drivers and compositing
doesn't exist on opensuse.  I get 3D effects...no problem.

/
/

[Mamoru Tasaka]

Ed Greshko wrote, at 03/26/2010 01:53 PM +9:00:
> OK, I'm confused....
>
> On F12 yum info for xorg-x11-server-Xorg shows...
>
> Name       : xorg-x11-server-Xorg
> Version    : 1.7.6
> Summary    : Xorg X server
> URL        : http://www.x.org
>
> When going go http://www.x.org one reads....
>
> The current X.Org release is X11R7.5
> http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.5. The next major release will be
> X11R7.6 http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.6.
>
> How does 1.7.6 compare with 7.5 or 7.6?

http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.5 says:
----------------------------------------------------
Features Added/Enhanced
* xorg-server 1.7.0
----------------------------------------------------

http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.6 says:
----------------------------------------------------
Features Added/Enhanced
* Xorg server 1.8 changes, including new input hotplugging and configuration framework
----------------------------------------------------

Regards,
Mamoru

[Ed Greshko]

Mamoru Tasaka wrote:
> Ed Greshko wrote, at 03/26/2010 01:53 PM +9:00:
> > OK, I'm confused....
> >
> > On F12 yum info for xorg-x11-server-Xorg shows...
> >
> > Name       : xorg-x11-server-Xorg
> > Version    : 1.7.6
> > Summary    : Xorg X server
> > URL        : http://www.x.org
> >
> > When going go http://www.x.org one reads....
> >
> > The current X.Org release is X11R7.5
> > http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.5. The next major release will be
> > X11R7.6 http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.6.
> >
> > How does 1.7.6 compare with 7.5 or 7.6?
> http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.5 says:
>
> Features Added/Enhanced
> xorg-server 1.7.0
> http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.6 says:
>
> Features Added/Enhanced
> Xorg server 1.8 changes, including new input hotplugging and configuration framework

Thanks...and I see....  It didn't dawn on me to read the release
notes...  :-(

Wonder why the opensuse version works for me...and F12 doesn't....

Weird....

[Mike Chambers]

On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 14:07 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Thanks...and I see....  It didn't dawn on me to read the release
> notes...  :-(
>
> Wonder why the opensuse version works for me...and F12 doesn't....

Don't know/think it was meant to work with F12, out of the box.  But it
does on F13 though. Compiz anyway, dunno bout 3d.

[Ed Greshko]

Mike Chambers wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 14:07 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > Thanks...and I see....  It didn't dawn on me to read the release
> > notes...  :-(
> >
> > Wonder why the opensuse version works for me...and F12 doesn't....
>
> Don't know/think it was meant to work with F12, out of the box.  But it
> does on F13 though. Compiz anyway, dunno bout 3d.

Well...all of this is interesting and at the same time confounding....

I think the breakage occurs in the xorg server.   I'm now tempted to try
F11 since it has an older version, even in the updates, and it has KDE
4.4.  There are things that are nice about opensuse....but I'm more used
to the RH way.  And besides, opensuse may upgrade their xorg server at
some point and I'd still have the problem....

Decisions, decisions....   It is a good thing installing systems doesn't
take "forever"....  :-)

[Marko Vojinovic]

On Friday 26 March 2010 04:53:47 Ed Greshko wrote:
> OK, I'm confused....
>
> On F12 yum info for xorg-x11-server-Xorg shows...
>
> Name       : xorg-x11-server-Xorg
> Version    : 1.7.6
> Summary    : Xorg X server
> URL        : http://www.x.org
>
> When going go http://www.x.org one reads....
>
> The current X.Org release is X11R7.5
> http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.5. The next major release will be
> X11R7.6 http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.6.
>
> How does 1.7.6 compare with 7.5 or 7.6?

In short, X.Org != X.Org *server*. The X.Org is "protocol version 11, release  
7.5", which contains (among other things) the server, version 1.7.6. The catch 
is that the actual server executable is also called Xorg. ;-)

$ Xorg -version

X.Org X Server 1.7.6
Release Date: 2010-03-17
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: x86-01 2.6.18-164.6.1.el5 
Current Operating System: Linux Yoda 2.6.32.9-70.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Mar 3 
04:40:41 UTC 2010 x86_64
Kernel command line: ro root=UUID=a5f1f1b6-ba0b-4a74-bb1c-46a582befe99 noiswmd 
LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rhgb 
quiet
Build Date: 17 March 2010  03:15:49AM
Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.7.6-1.fc12 
Current version of pixman: 0.16.6

I would compare that to opensuse output.

HTH, :-)
Marko

[Ed Greshko]

Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> On Friday 26 March 2010 04:53:47 Ed Greshko wrote:
> > OK, I'm confused....
> >
> > On F12 yum info for xorg-x11-server-Xorg shows...
> >
> > Name       : xorg-x11-server-Xorg
> > Version    : 1.7.6
> > Summary    : Xorg X server
> > URL        : http://www.x.org
> >
> > When going go http://www.x.org one reads....
> >
> > The current X.Org release is X11R7.5
> > http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.5. The next major release will be
> > X11R7.6 http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.6.
> >
> > How does 1.7.6 compare with 7.5 or 7.6?
>
> In short, X.Org != X.Org *server*. The X.Org is "protocol version 11, release  
> 7.5", which contains (among other things) the server, version 1.7.6. The catch 
> is that the actual server executable is also called Xorg. ;-)
>
> $ Xorg -version
>
> X.Org X Server 1.7.6
> Release Date: 2010-03-17
> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
> Build Operating System: x86-01 2.6.18-164.6.1.el5 
> Current Operating System: Linux Yoda 2.6.32.9-70.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Mar 3 
> 04:40:41 UTC 2010 x86_64
> Kernel command line: ro root=UUID=a5f1f1b6-ba0b-4a74-bb1c-46a582befe99 noiswmd 
> LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rhgb 
> quiet
> Build Date: 17 March 2010  03:15:49AM
> Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.7.6-1.fc12 
> Current version of pixman: 0.16.6
>
> I would compare that to opensuse output.

You know....  I think I knew that....

Anyway opensuse has an earlier one....

X.Org X Server 1.6.5
Release Date: 2009-10-11
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: openSUSE SUSE LINUX
Current Operating System: Linux suse 2.6.31.12-0.2-default #1 SMP
2010-03-16 21:25:39 +0100 i686
Build Date: 02 November 2009  12:05:39PM

F11 has 1.6 something too....  So, I'll give that a whirl....

[Rick Stevens]

On 03/26/2010 03:50 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Marko Vojinovic wrote:
> > On Friday 26 March 2010 04:53:47 Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > OK, I'm confused....
> > >
> > > On F12 yum info for xorg-x11-server-Xorg shows...
> > >
> > > Name       : xorg-x11-server-Xorg
> > > Version    : 1.7.6
> > > Summary    : Xorg X server
> > > URL        : http://www.x.org
> > >
> > > When going go http://www.x.org one reads....
> > >
> > > The current X.Org release is X11R7.5
> > > http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.5. The next major release will be
> > > X11R7.6http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/7.6.
> > >
> > > How does 1.7.6 compare with 7.5 or 7.6?
> >
> > In short, X.Org != X.Org *server*. The X.Org is "protocol version 11, release
> > 7.5", which contains (among other things) the server, version 1.7.6. The catch
> > is that the actual server executable is also called Xorg. ;-)
> >
> > $ Xorg -version
> >
> > X.Org X Server 1.7.6
> > Release Date: 2010-03-17
> > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
> > Build Operating System: x86-01 2.6.18-164.6.1.el5
> > Current Operating System: Linux Yoda 2.6.32.9-70.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Mar 3
> > 04:40:41 UTC 2010 x86_64
> > Kernel command line: ro root=UUID=a5f1f1b6-ba0b-4a74-bb1c-46a582befe99 noiswmd
> > LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rhgb
> > quiet
> > Build Date: 17 March 2010  03:15:49AM
> > Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.7.6-1.fc12
> > Current version of pixman: 0.16.6
> >
> > I would compare that to opensuse output.
>
> You know....  I think I knew that....
>
> Anyway opensuse has an earlier one....
>
> X.Org X Server 1.6.5
> Release Date: 2009-10-11
> X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
> Build Operating System: openSUSE SUSE LINUX
> Current Operating System: Linux suse 2.6.31.12-0.2-default #1 SMP
> 2010-03-16 21:25:39 +0100 i686
> Build Date: 02 November 2009  12:05:39PM
>
> F11 has 1.6 something too....  So, I'll give that a whirl....

F11:
[root@prophead ~]# Xorg -version

X.Org X Server 1.6.3.901 (1.6.4 RC 1)
Release Date: 2009-8-25
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.18-164.el5 x86_64
Current Operating System: Linux prophead.hci.com 
2.6.30.10-105.2.23.fc11.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Feb 11 07:06:34 UTC 2010 x86_64
>