Re: Wiki Migration (Tuesday 05-26-2008)

[Valent Turkovic]

On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Mike McGrath <mmcgrath(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hello Fedora Universe!  It is my pleasure to announce that starting
> on
>  Tuesday http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ will be run by Mediawiki instead
>  of Moin.  Why bother announcing this to everyone?  Well there are a couple
>  of reasons. 
For people like me who missed the discussion about this move to
Mediawiki it would be nice to see the link. I believe that you made a
right choice and I love Mediawiki but I would just like to see what is
benefits are there with moving to Mediawiki so that I can take
advantage of them.

Cheers,
Valent.

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Wiki Migration (Tuesday 05-26-2008)

[Tim]

On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 11:37 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  I guess what's needed is a way to allow people to reply to list
>  messages without being able to post new messages to the list.
>  Obviously unworkable.  
And that's what they've done  ;-p  with the reply-to address pointing to
here.  I haven't checked every announce message, but I'd noticed
announcements like the one in question were generally CCd to this list,
too.  So people did get to see the original message, as well.

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Wiki Migration (Tuesday 05-26-2008)

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:37:25 -0430,
  Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  <muse>
>  I guess what's needed is a way to allow people to reply to list messages
>  without being able to post new messages to the list. Obviously
>  unworkable.
>  </muse> 
If you mean reply to the sender, the correct way to do that is to use
mail-followup-to to redirect replies instead of munging the reply-to
header. If you do that 'reply' will reply to the sender and 'reply-all'
will reply to the addresses in the mail-followup-to header.

Wiki Migration (Tuesday 05-26-2008)

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2008-05-29 at 10:42 +0930, Tim wrote:
>  On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 11:37 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  > I guess what's needed is a way to allow people to reply to list
>  > messages without being able to post new messages to the list.
>  > Obviously unworkable. 
>  
>  And that's what they've done  ;-p  with the reply-to address pointing to
>  here. 
I wasn't clear enough: I meant replying to list messages *on the same
list*, without general permission to post to the list.

poc

Wiki Migration (Tuesday 05-26-2008)

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 23:29 +0930, Tim wrote:
>  Tim:
>  >> I'm guessing, because the announce list sets this list on the reply-to
>  >> header because that's what they want you to do.  I'm on both, and all
>  >> the announce list messages that I see do that.
>  
>  Patrick O'Callaghan:
>  > Interesting. An obvious bug in the announce list setup. Maybe you should
>  > report it to them (since you're on the list and I'm not).
>  
>  Why's that a bug?  You *can't* post to the announce list, on purpose,
>  it's read-only.  So the replies have to be directed to somewhere where
>  people can respond. 
Well, when you put it like that ...

<muse>
I guess what's needed is a way to allow people to reply to list messages
without being able to post new messages to the list. Obviously
unworkable.
</muse>

poc

Wiki Migration (Tuesday 05-26-2008)

[Tim]

Tim:
> > I'm guessing, because the announce list sets this list on the
> reply-to
> > header because that's what they want you to do.  I'm on both, and all
> > the announce list messages that I see do that. 
Patrick O'Callaghan:
>  Interesting. An obvious bug in the announce list setup. Maybe you
> should
>  report it to them (since you're on the list and I'm not). 
Why's that a bug?  You *can't* post to the announce list, on purpose,
it's read-only.  So the replies have to be directed to somewhere where
people can respond.

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Wiki Migration (Tuesday 05-26-2008)

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 19:13 +0930, Tim wrote:
>  On Tue, 2008-05-27 at 10:04 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  > Why are you replying on this list to a message from a different list?
>  > Not everyone is on fedora-announce-list so a reply to a non-existent
>  > message is somewhat disconcerting. 
>  
>  I'm guessing, because the announce list sets this list on the reply-to
>  header because that's what they want you to do.  I'm on both, and all
>  the announce list messages that I see do that. 
Interesting. An obvious bug in the announce list setup. Maybe you should
report it to them (since you're on the list and I'm not).

poc

Wiki Migration (Tuesday 05-26-2008)

[Tim]

On Tue, 2008-05-27 at 10:04 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>  Why are you replying on this list to a message from a different
> list?
>  Not everyone is on fedora-announce-list so a reply to a non-existent
>  message is somewhat disconcerting.  
I'm guessing, because the announce list sets this list on the reply-to
header because that's what they want you to do.  I'm on both, and all
the announce list messages that I see do that.

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Wiki Migration (Tuesday 05-26-2008)

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Tue, 2008-05-27 at 14:47 +0200, Valent Turkovic wrote:
>  On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Mike McGrath
> <mmcgrath(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  > Hello Fedora Universe!  It is my pleasure to announce that starting on
>  > Tuesday http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ will be run by Mediawiki instead
>  > of Moin.  Why bother announcing this to everyone?  Well there are a couple
>  > of reasons.
>  
>  For people like me who missed the discussion about this move to
>  Mediawiki it would be nice to see the link. I believe that you made a
>  right choice and I love Mediawiki but I would just like to see what is
>  benefits are there with moving to Mediawiki so that I can take
>  advantage of them. 
Why are you replying on this list to a message from a different list?
Not everyone is on fedora-announce-list so a reply to a non-existent
message is somewhat disconcerting.

poc