Evolution mystery

[Aaron Konstam]

I have had to change from mutt to evolution and I have tow things that
are driving me crazy:
1. On each line of the display of mail messages there are three columns
called: status, attachment and flagged. I am unclear what two of them
mean. I assume attachment indicates that there is an attachment on the
message. I am guessing that status is read or unread. What does flagged
do and how is it used?

2. Awhile ago someone indicated that evolution has a feature that is
called bounce in mutt. What it means is to transfer the message to
another address just as it was delivered to me. Same header and
everything. I can not find that feature. Where is it?
-- 
Aaron Konstam   
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akonstam(a)sbxglobal.net

[Craig White]

On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 15:06 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>  I have had to change from mutt to evolution and I have tow things
> that
>  are driving me crazy:
>  1. On each line of the display of mail messages there are three columns
>  called: status, attachment and flagged. I am unclear what two of them
>  mean. I assume attachment indicates that there is an attachment on the
>  message. I am guessing that status is read or unread. What does flagged
>  do and how is it used? 
---
your usage...for example, you could read all the unread messages on a
list like this and 'flag' the ones that you might want to reply to
unless you find further down (perhaps by broken threading client
replies), someone hasn't already answered it. You can sort based on any
column
---
>  
>  2. Awhile ago someone indicated that evolution has a feature that is
>  called bounce in mutt. What it means is to transfer the message to
>  another address just as it was delivered to me. Same header and
>  everything. I can not find that feature. Where is it? 
---
Actions => Forward As => Redirect 

is that what you were looking for?

Craig

[Steffen Kluge]

On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:02 -0700, Craig White wrote:
>  > 2. Awhile ago someone indicated that evolution has a feature
> that is
>  > called bounce in mutt. 
I believe this feature is missing in evolution. If I'm wrong and
somebody can tell me where to find it, I'll buy him or her a beer!

>  What it means is to transfer the message to
>  > another address just as it was delivered to me. Same header and
>  > everything. I can not find that feature. Where is it?
>  ---
>  Actions => Forward As => Redirect  
That's not the same, unfortunately. Firstly, the message itself gets
changed (e.g. re-formatted from HTML to text), attachments are not
included and the mail headers change. Mutt's bounce simply resends the
message as received, with the only difference being a new envelope
recipient.

Sadly missed in evolution...

Cheers
Steffen.

[Scot L. Harris]

On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 11:52 +1000, Steffen Kluge wrote:
>  On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:02 -0700, Craig White wrote:
>  > > 2. Awhile ago someone indicated that evolution has a feature that is
>  > > called bounce in mutt.
>  
>  I believe this feature is missing in evolution. If I'm wrong and
>  somebody can tell me where to find it, I'll buy him or her a beer! 
On the version of evolution in FC5 you can find the redirect option
under the Actions -> Forward As -> Redirect.

I like Corona.  :)

[Philippe]

On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 22:54 -0400, Scot L. Harris wrote:
>  
>  On the version of evolution in FC5 you can find the redirect option
>  under the Actions -> Forward As -> Redirect.  
Hum not exactly. FC5 use Evolution 2.6.0 and for me this is :
Message -> Forward as -> Redirect 
as there is no Actions menu if I make no mistake...

Philippe
-- 
PHD <phd2(a)fcomfrench.com&gt;

[Aaron Konstam]

On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 11:52 +1000, Steffen Kluge wrote:
>  On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:02 -0700, Craig White wrote:
>  > > 2. Awhile ago someone indicated that evolution has a feature that is
>  > > called bounce in mutt.
>  
>  I believe this feature is missing in evolution. If I'm wrong and
>  somebody can tell me where to find it, I'll buy him or her a beer!
>  
>  > What it means is to transfer the message to
>  > > another address just as it was delivered to me. Same header and
>  > > everything. I can not find that feature. Where is it?
>  > ---
>  > Actions => Forward As => Redirect 
>  
>  That's not the same, unfortunately. Firstly, the message itself gets
>  changed (e.g. re-formatted from HTML to text), attachments are not
>  included and the mail headers change. Mutt's bounce simply resends the
>  message as received, with the only difference being a new envelope
>  recipient.
>  
>  Sadly missed in evolution...
>  
>  Cheers
>  Steffen.
>   
Well that is a bummer. Not being able to forward a message complete with
attachments is very handy. If evolution does not can nay one suggest a
mail client that does it?
However, I have a plan. It seems to me that yo could configure mutt to
use the same mail boxes as evelution. Then bouncing would be possible,

[Tim]

Aaron Konstam: 
>  Well that is a bummer. Not being able to forward a message complete
> with
>  attachments is very handy. If evolution does not can nay one suggest a
>  mail client that does it? 
While not "redirection" I've gone through some similar stuffing around
to resend a message:  Copy or move a message to the outbox, then "send"
your mail (well, send & receive, unfortunately there's no way to just
send pending mail, nor just receive mail from specific mailboxes).

To change the recipient, almost do the same thing:  Get your message
into the outbox (copy or move), open it and change the addresses in the
TO gadget.  You may also have to change the FROM address, because it's
going to pick one of your own, out of the accounts configured into
Evolution.  Then send.

The comment about mail becoming HTML bit me when sending something
sitting in the drafts box:  I had a complete message in there that
didn't need any further editing.  One obvious way to send it was to drag
it to the outbox and send it.  Unfortunately, waiting messages in the
draft folder are a wierd HTML format that Evolution uses for message
composition.  The only way to avoid that is to open the message, and
send it.  Again, you have to pay close attention to the FROM gadget,
first, as the from address may change.

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[James Wilkinson]

Aaron Konstam wrote:
>  Well that is a bummer. Not being able to forward a message complete
> with
>  attachments is very handy. If evolution does not can nay one suggest a
>  mail client that does it?
>  However, I have a plan. It seems to me that yo could configure mutt to
>  use the same mail boxes as evelution. Then bouncing would be possible, 
> From my experience, the best way of doing this is to use IMAP folders.
That way you don't have to worry about Evolution squirrelling away the
mail somewhere it wants, but leaves it on the IMAP server. It also makes
life a lot easier if you want to play with different e-mail clients --
you can use umpteen different mail clients, and the e-mail will always
be in the right place.

Not that setting up IMAP was that easy -- Dovecot wouldn't see my
Maildir folders. Eventually I worked out that this was because it
insisted on having *hidden* folders -- all folder names had to start
with a dot. Otherwise I could have just left IMAP for graphical clients,
and used mutt's built-in Maildir support.

Incidentally, flagging is possible in mutt -- I use it all the time, if
I see a list e-mail I might want to have a go at answering, but don't
feel like right now, or if I want to see if someone who knows more about
that topic will comment.

I believe it's F in the default key-binding.

Hope this helps,

James.

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[Aaron Konstam]

On Sat, 2006-04-29 at 10:58 +0100, James Wilkinson wrote:
>  Aaron Konstam wrote:
>  > Well that is a bummer. Not being able to forward a message complete with
>  > attachments is very handy. If evolution does not can nay one suggest a
>  > mail client that does it?
>  > However, I have a plan. It seems to me that yo could configure mutt to
>  > use the same mail boxes as evelution. Then bouncing would be possible,
>  
>  >From my experience, the best way of doing this is to use IMAP folders.
>  That way you don't have to worry about Evolution squirrelling away the
>  mail somewhere it wants, but leaves it on the IMAP server. It also makes
>  life a lot easier if you want to play with different e-mail clients --
>  you can use umpteen different mail clients, and the e-mail will always
>  be in the right place.
>  
>  Not that setting up IMAP was that easy -- Dovecot wouldn't see my
>  Maildir folders. Eventually I worked out that this was because it
>  insisted on having *hidden* folders -- all folder names had to start
>  with a dot. Otherwise I could have just left IMAP for graphical clients,
>  and used mutt's built-in Maildir support.
>  
>  Incidentally, flagging is possible in mutt -- I use it all the time, if
>  I see a list e-mail I might want to have a go at answering, but don't
>  feel like right now, or if I want to see if someone who knows more about
>  that topic will comment.
>  
>  I believe it's F in the default key-binding.
>  
>  Hope this helps,
>  
>  James. 
All you say is true. But now that I use a server that I have no control
over I don't trust it that much. But I admit IMAP makes reading mail on
a variety of machines and with a variety of mail clients easier.
-- 
Aaron Konstam <akonstam(a)sbcglobal.net&gt;

[Tim]

On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 15:06 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
>  I have had to change from mutt to evolution and I have tow things
> that
>  are driving me crazy:
>  1. On each line of the display of mail messages there are three columns
>  called: status, attachment and flagged. I am unclear what two of them
>  mean. I assume attachment indicates that there is an attachment on the
>  message. 
Yes.  An icon looking like a paper with a paper clip over it appears.
Send yourself some e-mails to test this with.

>  I am guessing that status is read or unread. 
Yes, with dinky little opened or unopened envelope icons, here, that are
so small that there's barely a discernable difference between them.

>  What does flagged do and how is it used? 
You get to flag some messages, for whatever purpose you like (read it
again later, find one message in a thousand easier, etc).  Just click
into the space that column provides and a flag appears or disappears.

>  2. Awhile ago someone indicated that evolution has a feature that is
>  called bounce in mutt. What it means is to transfer the message to
>  another address just as it was delivered to me. Same header and
>  everything. I can not find that feature. Where is it? 
Untested, but look in the "Actions" menu, there's a "Forward as"
item,
and a "Redirect" sub-item.  Considering the other options in there, that
seems a likely candidate.

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(Currently running FC4, occasionally trying FC5.)

Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored.
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