Sound lost on FC#

[ice]

hi!
 I'v a very strange problem related to fc3, yesterday fc3 was playing sound
perfectly, but when i today bootup my system and after installing some
development tools, try to play my favorite song list, ,, i get no sound,
sound is all lost, i tried to reconfigure the sound card, but it fails to
produce sound,,
 i fail to understand that how sound without any reason lost....
 please help me......

[bill perkins]

ice wrote:
>  hi!
>   
>  I'v a very strange problem related to fc3, yesterday fc3 was playing  
>  sound perfectly, but when i today bootup my system and after installing 
>  some development tools, try to play my favorite song list, ,, i get no 
>  sound, sound is all lost, i tried to reconfigure the sound card, but it 
>  fails to produce sound,,
>   
>  i fail to understand that how sound without any reason lost....
>   
>  please help me......
>   
>   
>   
>   
Check mixer settings?

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[ice]

hi! Bill
 my friend please tell me how to access "mixer settings"
 please guide me......


 On 10/29/05, Bill Perkins <perk(a)iag.net&gt; wrote:
>  ice wrote:
>  > hi!
>  >
>  > I'v a very strange problem related to fc3, yesterday fc3 was playing
>  > sound perfectly, but when i today bootup my system and after installing
>  > some development tools, try to play my favorite song list, ,, i get no
>  > sound, sound is all lost, i tried to reconfigure the sound card, but it
>  > fails to produce sound,,
>  >
>  > i fail to understand that how sound without any reason lost....
>  >
>  > please help me......
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  Check mixer settings?
>
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[bill perkins]

ice wrote:
>  hi! Bill
>   
>  my friend please tell me how to access "mixer settings"
>   
>  please guide me......
>  
>   
You could try alsamixer, comes up with a text-GUI (try 'man alsamixer' 
to get the details) or amixer ('man amixer') for a command-line 
interface to the alsamixer.

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[Claus Reheis]

On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 22:08 +0530, ice wrote:
>  hi! Bill
>   
>  my friend please tell me how to access "mixer settings"
>    


On your Desktop on one of the panels you have a loudspeaker symbol!
Click there with the right mouse-tab

If you use KDE:

KMix

If you use Gnome:

Open Volume Control


Claus
>  please guide me......
>  
>  
>   
>  On 10/29/05, Bill Perkins <perk(a)iag.net&gt; wrote: 
>          ice wrote:
>          > hi!
>          >
>          > I'v a very strange problem related to fc3, yesterday fc3 was
>          playing 
>          > sound perfectly, but when i today bootup my system and after
>          installing
>          > some development tools, try to play my favorite song
>          list, ,, i get no
>          > sound, sound is all lost, i tried to reconfigure the sound
>          card, but it 
>          > fails to produce sound,,
>          >
>          > i fail to understand that how sound without any reason
>          lost....
>          >
>          > please help me......
>          >
>          >
>          >
>          >
>          Check mixer settings?
>          
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I ran across a weird problem with my Dell laptop where I had lost sound. 
Well technically I hadn't lost sound, only sound to my speakers. When I 
plugged in headphones I had sound. I found out that there is a ALSA 
mixer setting that you can turn off and my speakers worked again.

If headphone work on your machine you can start up alsamixer and then go 
all the way to the right, I think it was called MM or something like that.

Chris

Claus Reheis wrote:

> On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 22:08 +0530, ice wrote:
>   
>
> >hi! Bill
> > 
> >my friend please tell me how to access "mixer settings"
> > 
> >    
> >
>
>
>
> On your Desktop on one of the panels you have a loudspeaker symbol!
> Click there with the right mouse-tab
>
> If you use KDE:
>
> KMix
>
> If you use Gnome:
>
> Open Volume Control
>
>
> Claus
>   
>
> >please guide me......
> >
> >
> > 
> >On 10/29/05, Bill Perkins <perk(a)iag.net&gt; wrote: 
> >        ice wrote:
> >        > hi!
> >        >
> >        > I'v a very strange problem related to fc3, yesterday fc3 was
> >        playing 
> >        > sound perfectly, but when i today bootup my system and after
> >        installing
> >        > some development tools, try to play my favorite song
> >        list, ,, i get no
> >        > sound, sound is all lost, i tried to reconfigure the sound
> >        card, but it 
> >        > fails to produce sound,,
> >        >
> >        > i fail to understand that how sound without any reason
> >        lost....
> >        >
> >        > please help me......
> >        >
> >        >
> >        >
> >        >
> >        Check mixer settings?
> >        
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[Temlakos]

chrisl(a)xp.etowns.net wrote:
>  I ran across a weird problem with my Dell laptop where I had lost
> sound. 
>  Well technically I hadn't lost sound, only sound to my speakers. When I 
>  plugged in headphones I had sound. I found out that there is a ALSA 
>  mixer setting that you can turn off and my speakers worked again.
>  
>  If headphone work on your machine you can start up alsamixer and then go 
>  all the way to the right, I think it was called MM or something like that.
>  
>  Chris 
Did you try to display a switch called "External Amplifier" and turn 
that on? It worked on my Dell Inspiron 1200.

Temlakos

On Sat, Oct 29, 2005 at 06:58:42PM -0500, chrisl(a)xp.etowns.net wrote:
>  I ran across a weird problem with my Dell laptop where I had lost
> sound. 
>  Well technically I hadn't lost sound, only sound to my speakers. When I 
>  plugged in headphones I had sound. I found out that there is a ALSA 
>  mixer setting that you can turn off and my speakers worked again.
>  
>  If headphone work on your machine you can start up alsamixer and then go 
>  all the way to the right, I think it was called MM or something like that.
>  
>  Chris 
No, MM means that the column in alsamixer display is muted. Hit M
and the MM will change to 00 and not be muted. Hitting the up and
down arrows will change the level in the column.
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[taharka]

ice wrote:

>  hi!
>   
>  I'v a very strange problem related to fc3, yesterday fc3 was playing  
>  sound perfectly, but when i today bootup my system and after 
>  installing some development tools, try to play my favorite song list, 
>  ,, i get no sound, sound is all lost, i tried to reconfigure the sound 
>  card, but it fails to produce sound,,
>   
>  i fail to understand that how sound without any reason lost....
>   
>  please help me......
>   
>   
>    
You didn't also upgrade to the latest kernel did you? Every time I 
upgrade to the latest kernel, /etc/modprobe.conf gets hammered & I have 
to replace it with a backup copy :-(

taharka

Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A.

[Tim]

On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 12:36 -0400, taharka wrote:

>  Every time I upgrade to the latest kernel, /etc/modprobe.conf gets
>  hammered & I have to replace it with a backup copy :-( 
Doesn't happen to me.  Maybe you should provide some more details and
someone can resolve that issue for you.

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[Erik P. Olsen]

On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 19:37 +1030, Tim wrote:
>  On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 12:36 -0400, taharka wrote:
>  
>  > Every time I upgrade to the latest kernel, /etc/modprobe.conf gets
>  > hammered & I have to replace it with a backup copy :-(
>  
>  Doesn't happen to me.  Maybe you should provide some more details and
>  someone can resolve that issue for you. 
Oh, I think we are many for whome this happens. For this very reason I
do not upgrade the kernel if there is nothing in it I particularly need.

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[taharka]

Hello Erik,

Erik P. Olsen wrote:

> On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 19:37 +1030, Tim wrote:
>   
>
> >On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 12:36 -0400, taharka wrote:
> >
> >    
> >
> >>Every time I upgrade to the latest kernel, /etc/modprobe.conf gets
> >>hammered & I have to replace it with a backup copy :-(
> >>      
> >>
> >Doesn't happen to me.  Maybe you should provide some more details and
> >someone can resolve that issue for you.
> >    
> >
>
> Oh, I think we are many for whome this happens. For this very reason I
> do not upgrade the kernel if there is nothing in it I particularly need.
>
>   
>  
You did upgrade the kernel to kernel-2.6.12-1.1380_FC3 as that is a 
security update?

taharka

Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A.

[Erik P. Olsen]

On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 12:22 -0500, taharka wrote:
>  Hello Erik,
>  
>  Erik P. Olsen wrote:
>  
>  >On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 19:37 +1030, Tim wrote:
>  >  
>  >
>  >>On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 12:36 -0400, taharka wrote:
>  >>
>  >>    
>  >>
>  >>>Every time I upgrade to the latest kernel, /etc/modprobe.conf gets
>  >>>hammered & I have to replace it with a backup copy :-(
>  >>>      
>  >>>
>  >>Doesn't happen to me.  Maybe you should provide some more details and
>  >>someone can resolve that issue for you.
>  >>    
>  >>
>  >
>  >Oh, I think we are many for whome this happens. For this very reason I
>  >do not upgrade the kernel if there is nothing in it I particularly need.
>  >
>  >  
>  >
>  You did upgrade the kernel to kernel-2.6.12-1.1380_FC3 as that is a 
>  security update? 
No.

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Erik P. Olsen

[taharka]

Erik P. Olsen wrote:

> On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 12:22 -0500, taharka wrote:
>   
>
> >Hello Erik,
> >
> >Erik P. Olsen wrote:
> >
> >    
> >
> >>On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 19:37 +1030, Tim wrote:
> >> 
> >>
> >>      
> >>
> >>>On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 12:36 -0400, taharka wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>
> >>>        
> >>>
> >>>>Every time I upgrade to the latest kernel, /etc/modprobe.conf gets
> >>>>hammered & I have to replace it with a backup copy :-(
> >>>>     
> >>>>
> >>>>          
> >>>>
> >>>Doesn't happen to me.  Maybe you should provide some more details and
> >>>someone can resolve that issue for you.
> >>>   
> >>>
> >>>        
> >>>
> >>Oh, I think we are many for whome this happens. For this very reason I
> >>do not upgrade the kernel if there is nothing in it I particularly need.
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>      
> >>
> >You did upgrade the kernel to kernel-2.6.12-1.1380_FC3 as that is a 
> >security update?
> >    
> >
>
> No.
>
>   
>  
You may want to do that one to be on the safe side.

taharka

Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A.

[taharka]

Tim wrote:

> On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 12:36 -0400, taharka wrote:
>
>   
>
> >Every time I upgrade to the latest kernel, /etc/modprobe.conf gets
> >hammered & I have to replace it with a backup copy :-(
> >    
> >
>
> Doesn't happen to me.  Maybe you should provide some more details and
> someone can resolve that issue for you.
>
>   
>  
Well, thanks for the offer but I doubt it :-( The first reported 
incident, is the posting below;

https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2005-May/msg04057.html

kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3 destroyed my sound configuration.

    * From: "Erik P. Olsen" <erik epo dk>
    * To: Fedora Mailing List <fedora-list redhat com>
    * Subject: kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3 destroyed my sound configuration.
    * Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 23:52:07 +0200

I upgraded my kernel to the subject version on May 24. In that very
moment all sound stopped on my system (only the hiss from the fans are
still there). I can see that modprobe.conf was also changed at that
time. I have restored the previous modprobe.conf but that only allowed
alsamixer to work, still no sound so apparently more damage was done.

I assume I have to reinstall/reconfigure alsa, but why did it happen and
how can I prevent this from happening next time I upgrade the kernel?

-- 
Regards,
Erik P. Olsen

Note, that there was no response to this guy's post :-( Now, the very 
same thing happened to me. I was fortunate enough to have a backup of 
/etc/modprobe.conf on a SCO Open Server box attached to my LAN. 
Overwriting the hammered modprobe.conf with the backup copy worked for 
me. It's a good thing I had that backup because, I had pushed out that 
kernel update to ten clients with identical systems & their 
modprobe.conf file was hammered likewise :-(

taharka

Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A.

[Jeff Vian]

On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 12:09 -0500, taharka wrote:
>  Tim wrote:
>  
>  >On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 12:36 -0400, taharka wrote:
>  >
>  >  
>  >
>  >>Every time I upgrade to the latest kernel, /etc/modprobe.conf gets
>  >>hammered & I have to replace it with a backup copy :-(
>  >>    
>  >>
>  >
>  >Doesn't happen to me.  Maybe you should provide some more details and
>  >someone can resolve that issue for you.
>  >
>  >  
>  >
>  Well, thanks for the offer but I doubt it :-( The first reported 
>  incident, is the posting below;
>  
>  https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2005-May/msg04057.html
>  
>  kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3 destroyed my sound configuration.
>  
>      * From: "Erik P. Olsen" <erik epo dk>
>      * To: Fedora Mailing List <fedora-list redhat com>
>      * Subject: kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3 destroyed my sound configuration.
>      * Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 23:52:07 +0200
>  
>  I upgraded my kernel to the subject version on May 24. In that very
>  moment all sound stopped on my system (only the hiss from the fans are
>  still there). I can see that modprobe.conf was also changed at that
>  time. I have restored the previous modprobe.conf but that only allowed
>  alsamixer to work, still no sound so apparently more damage was done.
>  
>  I assume I have to reinstall/reconfigure alsa, but why did it happen and
>  how can I prevent this from happening next time I upgrade the kernel?
>  
>  -- 
>  Regards,
>  Erik P. Olsen
>  
>  Note, that there was no response to this guy's post :-( Now, the very 
>  same thing happened to me. I was fortunate enough to have a backup of 
>  /etc/modprobe.conf on a SCO Open Server box attached to my LAN. 
>  Overwriting the hammered modprobe.conf with the backup copy worked for 
>  me. It's a good thing I had that backup because, I had pushed out that 
>  kernel update to ten clients with identical systems & their 
>  modprobe.conf file was hammered likewise :-(
>  
>  taharka
>  
>  Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A.
>   
Well, with the plethora of messages in the archive, if that is the only
one you find where modprobe.conf was corrupted then it does not seem
very prevalent an issue.

Personally I have never had that issue on any system I manage.

I understand your concern and am glad you had the backup, but what is
unique about your systems that made it happen to you when very few
others are reporting this problem?
Is someone interrupting the update before it completes the configuration
step?  Is there something else that interferes? such as maybe the update
running and backups starting at the same time, etc.?

Kernel updates seem to take a long time to finish the update.  At times
I have felt they were hung and have been tempted to kill the power since
the system was inaccessible at the time, ( although I never
have :-) ) .... but after waiting a long enough time they have always
finished for me.

[taharka]

Hello,

Jeff Vian wrote:

> On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 12:09 -0500, taharka wrote:
>   
>
> >Tim wrote:
> >
> >    
> >
> >>On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 12:36 -0400, taharka wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>      
> >>
> >>>Every time I upgrade to the latest kernel, /etc/modprobe.conf gets
> >>>hammered & I have to replace it with a backup copy :-(
> >>>   
> >>>
> >>>        
> >>>
> >>Doesn't happen to me.  Maybe you should provide some more details and
> >>someone can resolve that issue for you.
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>      
> >>
> >Well, thanks for the offer but I doubt it :-( The first reported 
> >incident, is the posting below;
> >
> >https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2005-May/msg04057.html
> >
> >kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3 destroyed my sound configuration.
> >
> >    * From: "Erik P. Olsen" <erik epo dk>
> >    * To: Fedora Mailing List <fedora-list redhat com>
> >    * Subject: kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3 destroyed my sound configuration.
> >    * Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 23:52:07 +0200
> >
> >I upgraded my kernel to the subject version on May 24. In that very
> >moment all sound stopped on my system (only the hiss from the fans are
> >still there). I can see that modprobe.conf was also changed at that
> >time. I have restored the previous modprobe.conf but that only allowed
> >alsamixer to work, still no sound so apparently more damage was done.
> >
> >I assume I have to reinstall/reconfigure alsa, but why did it happen and
> >how can I prevent this from happening next time I upgrade the kernel?
> >
> >-- 
> >Regards,
> >Erik P. Olsen
> >
> >Note, that there was no response to this guy's post :-( Now, the very 
> >same thing happened to me. I was fortunate enough to have a backup of 
> >/etc/modprobe.conf on a SCO Open Server box attached to my LAN. 
> >Overwriting the hammered modprobe.conf with the backup copy worked for 
> >me. It's a good thing I had that backup because, I had pushed out that 
> >kernel update to ten clients with identical systems & their 
> >modprobe.conf file was hammered likewise :-(
> >
> >taharka
> >
> >Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A.
> >
> >    
> >
>
> Well, with the plethora of messages in the archive, if that is the only
> one you find where modprobe.conf was corrupted then it does not seem
> very prevalent an issue.
>
>   
>  
As I stated, this was the first incident. There are more in either 
July/August.

> Personally I have never had that issue on any system I manage.
>
> I understand your concern and am glad you had the backup, but what is
> unique about your systems that made it happen to you when very few
> others are reporting this problem?
>   
>  
It's not a concern anymore as it's a given, whenever there's a kernel 
upgrade, modprobe.conf will have to be overwritten with a backup. I now 
have a shell script that scp copies the backup to client boxes ;-) 
Nothing unique here, all systems are PIIs 300 Mhz 384mb RAM & have plain 
Creative SB-16 sound cards. I do find it odd, that this problem didn't 
occur on any kernel upgrade prior to kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3.

> Is someone interrupting the update before it completes the
> configuration
> step?  Is there something else that interferes? such as maybe the update
> running and backups starting at the same time, etc.?
>
>   
>  
I always ensure that, whenever an update takes place, the FC3 box is the 
only one running.

> Kernel updates seem to take a long time to finish the update.  At
> times
> I have felt they were hung and have been tempted to kill the power since
> the system was inaccessible at the time, ( although I never
> have :-) ) .... but after waiting a long enough time they have always
> finished for me.
>
>   
>  
I have Ultra DSL 3mbs & kernel updates take 3mins tops :-) The local 
Telco here is laying fiber down through the neighborhoods of my CTO & 
we'll be getting 30mbs speeds real soon :-)) Plus TV programing.

taharka

Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A.

[tlc]

On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 11:45 -0600, Jeff Vian wrote:
>  On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 12:09 -0500, taharka wrote:
>  > Tim wrote:
>  > 
>  > >On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 12:36 -0400, taharka wrote:
>  > >
>  > >  
>  > >
>  > >>Every time I upgrade to the latest kernel, /etc/modprobe.conf gets
>  > >>hammered & I have to replace it with a backup copy :-(
>  > >>    
>  > >>
>  > >
>  > >Doesn't happen to me.  Maybe you should provide some more details and
>  > >someone can resolve that issue for you.
>  > >
>  > >  
>  > >
>  > Well, thanks for the offer but I doubt it :-( The first reported 
>  > incident, is the posting below;
>  > 
>  > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2005-May/msg04057.html
>  > 
>  > kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3 destroyed my sound configuration.
>  > 
>  >     * From: "Erik P. Olsen" <erik epo dk>
>  >     * To: Fedora Mailing List <fedora-list redhat com>
>  >     * Subject: kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3 destroyed my sound configuration.
>  >     * Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 23:52:07 +0200
>  > 
>  > I upgraded my kernel to the subject version on May 24. In that very
>  > moment all sound stopped on my system (only the hiss from the fans are
>  > still there). I can see that modprobe.conf was also changed at that
>  > time. I have restored the previous modprobe.conf but that only allowed
>  > alsamixer to work, still no sound so apparently more damage was done.
>  > 
>  > I assume I have to reinstall/reconfigure alsa, but why did it happen and
>  > how can I prevent this from happening next time I upgrade the kernel?
>  > 
>  > -- 
>  > Regards,
>  > Erik P. Olsen
>  > 
>  > Note, that there was no response to this guy's post :-( Now, the very 
>  > same thing happened to me. I was fortunate enough to have a backup of 
>  > /etc/modprobe.conf on a SCO Open Server box attached to my LAN. 
>  > Overwriting the hammered modprobe.conf with the backup copy worked for 
>  > me. It's a good thing I had that backup because, I had pushed out that 
>  > kernel update to ten clients with identical systems & their 
>  > modprobe.conf file was hammered likewise :-(
>  > 
>  > taharka
>  > 
>  > Lexington, Kentucky U.S.A.
>  > 
>  
>  Well, with the plethora of messages in the archive, if that is the only
>  one you find where modprobe.conf was corrupted then it does not seem
>  very prevalent an issue.
>  
>  Personally I have never had that issue on any system I manage.
>  
>  I understand your concern and am glad you had the backup, but what is
>  unique about your systems that made it happen to you when very few
>  others are reporting this problem?
>  Is someone interrupting the update before it completes the configuration
>  step?  Is there something else that interferes? such as maybe the update
>  running and backups starting at the same time, etc.?
>  
>  Kernel updates seem to take a long time to finish the update.  At times
>  I have felt they were hung and have been tempted to kill the power since
>  the system was inaccessible at the time, ( although I never
>  have :-) ) .... but after waiting a long enough time they have always
>  finished for me.
>   

I have had this problem as well, mainly with onboard intel sound chips.
I have not really looked into the problem yet because they are on
workstations here that don't really need sound. They probably changed
the name of a sound driver or they have a new driver that replaced the
old default that doesn't work right. They did this with some video and
scsi drivers and I suspect sound and sata drivers as well.

In any case .. I know other people that read this list have had this
problem with their sound as well .. maybe it would help if someone
started a new thread and actually posted hardware details :) and what
driver was being used ( before and after would be great ) ...

[Erik P. Olsen]

On Sun, 2005-10-30 at 19:37 +1030, Tim wrote:
>  On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 12:36 -0400, taharka wrote:
>  
>  > Every time I upgrade to the latest kernel, /etc/modprobe.conf gets
>  > hammered & I have to replace it with a backup copy :-(
>  
>  Doesn't happen to me.  Maybe you should provide some more details and
>  someone can resolve that issue for you. 
Take a look at Bugzilla Bug 154588.

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Regards,
Erik P. Olsen