Switch to KDE on Fedora 18

[Michael Eager]

I just installed F18 from the live CD.  I'm trying
to install and switch to KDE.

If I enter "switchdesk kde", I get a message saying to
run "yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)".
Yum says that Group KDE does not exist.

Other than re-installing from the F18-Live-KDE CD, how
can I switch desktops?

[Joe Zeff]

On 01/19/2013 12:44 PM, Michael Eager wrote:
> I just installed F18 from the live CD.  I'm trying
> to install and switch to KDE.
>
> If I enter "switchdesk kde", I get a message saying to
> run "yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)".
> Yum says that Group KDE does not exist.
>
> Other than re-installing from the F18-Live-KDE CD, how
> can I switch desktops?

Your question contains its own answer.  As root, use yum to install KDE 
the way the message tells you to.

[Andrei Amuraritei]

On , Michael Eager wrote:
> I just installed F18 from the live CD.  I'm trying
> to install and switch to KDE.
>
> If I enter "switchdesk kde", I get a message saying to
> run "yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)".
> Yum says that Group KDE does not exist.
>
> Other than re-installing from the F18-Live-KDE CD, how
> can I switch desktops?
>
> --
> Michael Eager	 [e-mail]
> 1960 Park Blvd., Palo Alto, CA 94306  650-325-8077

Hi there, you can use yum grouplist to view all the groups in Fedora 
18. And from there you can see and install KDE with yum groupinstall 
"KDE Plasma Workspaces".

Then try switchdesk.

[Michael Eager]

On 01/19/2013 01:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 01/19/2013 12:44 PM, Michael Eager wrote:
> > I just installed F18 from the live CD.  I'm trying
> > to install and switch to KDE.
> >
> > If I enter "switchdesk kde", I get a message saying to
> > run "yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)".
> > Yum says that Group KDE does not exist.
> >
> > Other than re-installing from the F18-Live-KDE CD, how
> > can I switch desktops?
>
> Your question contains its own answer.  As root, use yum to install KDE the way the message tells
> you to.

My message also contained the response from yum, that
Group KDE does not exist.

[Reindl Harald]

Am 20.01.2013 00:40, schrieb Michael Eager:
> On 01/19/2013 01:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > On 01/19/2013 12:44 PM, Michael Eager wrote:
> > > I just installed F18 from the live CD.  I'm trying
> > > to install and switch to KDE.
> > >
> > > If I enter "switchdesk kde", I get a message saying to
> > > run "yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)".
> > > Yum says that Group KDE does not exist.
> > >
> > > Other than re-installing from the F18-Live-KDE CD, how
> > > can I switch desktops?
> >
> > Your question contains its own answer.  As root, use yum to install KDE the way the message tells
> > you to.
>
> My message also contained the response from yum, that
> Group KDE does not exist.

and did you try
yum groupinstall "KDE Plasma Workspaces"
as another response statet?

[Joe Zeff]

On 01/19/2013 03:40 PM, Michael Eager wrote:
> On 01/19/2013 01:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > On 01/19/2013 12:44 PM, Michael Eager wrote:
> > > I just installed F18 from the live CD.  I'm trying
> > > to install and switch to KDE.
> > >
> > > If I enter "switchdesk kde", I get a message saying to
> > > run "yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)".
> > > Yum says that Group KDE does not exist.
> > >
> > > Other than re-installing from the F18-Live-KDE CD, how
> > > can I switch desktops?
> >
> > Your question contains its own answer.  As root, use yum to install
> > KDE the way the message tells
> > you to.
>
> My message also contained the response from yum, that
> Group KDE does not exist.

But the message doesn't say "yum groupinstall KDE," now does it. 
Checking with yum grouplist I see that the group you probably need is 
"KDE Software Compilation" although it probably wouldn't be a bad idea 
to install "KDE Software Development" as well.  Or, you could install 
yumex, bite the bullet and log in with Gnome and use it to find and 
install what you need.

[David]

On 1/19/2013 6:40 PM, Michael Eager wrote:
> On 01/19/2013 01:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > On 01/19/2013 12:44 PM, Michael Eager wrote:
> >
> > Your question contains its own answer.  As root, use yum to install
> > KDE the way the message tells you to.
>
> My message also contained the response from yum, that Group KDE does 
> not exist.

Chill out friend. These, your, questions are answered by ordinary users. Not
techs or devs,  And they are trying to help with limited information
*from you* and often with different native languages. Smart A$$ replies
to them will not help you solve your situation.

I actually have a very simple soultion to your situation. But...

Have a nice day.

[William Oliver]

Well, I don't know about F18 release, but I installed F18 beta and assume that I have the same thing as F18 release since I've been updating.

The way I did it was pretty naive, perhaps, but it worked.  I did the following:

1) Installed from the gnome CD.
2) Installed apper (which installed a bunch of kde stuff as
dependencies)
3) Used apper to search for KDE and then just hit "install" on a few basic kde packages and a few kde apps.  Apper then decided that there were a zillion kde dependencies.  I installed all of them.

I then googled on how to set it as my default (I forget which file I edited, but it was straightforward).

Ta daah!

Of course, doing it this way doesn't install *all* the kde-associated apps, but it got the desktop up.  After that, I just went to apper again and clicked on all the kde stuff I wanted to add.

billo

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013, Michael Eager wrote:
> On 01/19/2013 01:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > On 01/19/2013 12:44 PM, Michael Eager wrote:
> > > I just installed F18 from the live CD.  I'm trying
> > > to install and switch to KDE.
> > >
> > > If I enter "switchdesk kde", I get a message saying to
> > > run "yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)".
> > > Yum says that Group KDE does not exist.
> > >
> > > Other than re-installing from the F18-Live-KDE CD, how
> > > can I switch desktops?
> >
> > Your question contains its own answer.  As root, use yum to install KDE the 
> > way the message tells
> > you to.
>
> My message also contained the response from yum, that
> Group KDE does not exist.
>
> -- 
> Michael Eager	 [e-mail]
> 1960 Park Blvd., Palo Alto, CA 94306  650-325-8077
>
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[Michael Eager]

On 01/19/2013 04:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 01/19/2013 03:40 PM, Michael Eager wrote:
> > On 01/19/2013 01:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > > On 01/19/2013 12:44 PM, Michael Eager wrote:
> > > > I just installed F18 from the live CD.  I'm trying
> > > > to install and switch to KDE.
> > > >
> > > > If I enter "switchdesk kde", I get a message saying to
> > > > run "yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)".
> > > > Yum says that Group KDE does not exist.
> > > >
> > > > Other than re-installing from the F18-Live-KDE CD, how
> > > > can I switch desktops?
> > >
> > > Your question contains its own answer.  As root, use yum to install
> > > KDE the way the message tells
> > > you to.
> >
> > My message also contained the response from yum, that
> > Group KDE does not exist.
>
> But the message doesn't say "yum groupinstall KDE," now does it. Checking with yum grouplist I see
> that the group you probably need is "KDE Software Compilation" although it probably wouldn't be a
> bad idea to install "KDE Software Development" as well.  Or, you could install yumex, bite the
> bullet and log in with Gnome and use it to find and install what you need.

I entered the command by copy and paste, exactly as printed.
And I searched for KDE, Desktop Environment, KDE Software Environment,
and any other combination I could think of.

[Joe Zeff]

On 01/19/2013 04:07 PM, David wrote:
> I actually have a very simple soultion to your situation. But...

Written like a true BOFH!  In the words that would be used in the Scary 
Devil Monastery, you, sir, are a Bastard with a Capital B.

[Michael Eager]

On 01/19/2013 01:16 PM, Andrei Amuraritei wrote:
> On , Michael Eager wrote:
> > I just installed F18 from the live CD.  I'm trying
> > to install and switch to KDE.
> >
> > If I enter "switchdesk kde", I get a message saying to
> > run "yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)".
> > Yum says that Group KDE does not exist.
> >
> > Other than re-installing from the F18-Live-KDE CD, how
> > can I switch desktops?
> >
> > --
> > Michael Eager     [e-mail]
> > 1960 Park Blvd., Palo Alto, CA 94306  650-325-8077
>
> Hi there, you can use yum grouplist to view all the groups in Fedora 18. And from there you can see
> and install KDE with yum groupinstall "KDE Plasma Workspaces".

Thanks.  That seems to be working.
> Then try switchdesk.

[Reindl Harald]

Am 20.01.2013 01:04, schrieb Joe Zeff:
> although it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to install "KDE
> Software Development" as well.

it is a VERY bad idea for someone who simply wants KDE

why should someone install some hundret MB of
software and dependecies just for fun?

i am web-developer, using eclpise and VMware
i have KDE used as it was 1.0.x in the 1990's
but i never needed "KDE Software Development"

with installing everyting i do not need the following would
not be possible, updates much larger and dist-upgrades much
more problematic

/dev/md1       ext4   29G    6,7G   23G   24% /

[Joe Zeff]

On 01/19/2013 04:18 PM, Michael Eager wrote:
> >
>
> I entered the command by copy and paste, exactly as printed.
> And I searched for KDE, Desktop Environment, KDE Software Environment,
> and any other combination I could think of.

I entered exactly one command:

yum grouplist

and looked over the output when it was finished.  Yes, I would have 
tried the command as given first, but if I'd been in your place, the 
command above would have been my next action.  Of course, I've been 
playing around with computers and Linux for a long time and I can't 
judge your experience level.  If you're fairly new to Linux, such things 
may not be as obvious to you as they are to me.

[Joe Zeff]

On 01/19/2013 04:29 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> it is a VERY bad idea for someone who simply wants KDE
>
> why should someone install some hundret MB of
> software and dependecies just for fun?

I don't do kernel development, but I need to have kernel-devel and 
kernel-headers installed.  (At least I think I need both of them.  I do 
know that I need at least one of those two installed.)  That's because I 
have an nVidia graphics card and use akmod-nvidia, which needs them.  My 
thought was that the OP might find out the hard way that some of the KDE 
software expects some of that to be available, but I wasn't sure. 
That's why I said that he *might* want it installed.

[Reindl Harald]

Am 20.01.2013 01:38, schrieb Joe Zeff:
> On 01/19/2013 04:29 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> > it is a VERY bad idea for someone who simply wants KDE
> >
> > why should someone install some hundret MB of
> > software and dependecies just for fun?
>
> I don't do kernel development, but I need to have kernel-devel and kernel-headers installed.  (At least I think I
> need both of them.  I do know that I need at least one of those two installed.)  That's because I have an nVidia
> graphics card and use akmod-nvidia, which needs them.  My thought was that the OP might find out the hard way that
> some of the KDE software expects some of that to be available, but I wasn't sure. That's why I said that he *might*
> want it installed.

the same here for VMware to build kernel modules
but only installed what is really needed and no piece more

look below what happens with install "KDE Software Development"
here with updates-testing is enabled, but however for whatever
reason it can not resolve even deps (yes i used yum clean all
and rm -rf /var/cache/yum/*)

so you see two impacts:

* a lot of large packages pulled
* we do not know how large due troubles
* dependency-problems which will hit you more likely
  as more packages you nail on your systems

so as said: hold your systems as small as possible and
you will have much less troubles over the years
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--> Abhängigkeitsauflösung beendet
--> Finding unneeded leftover dependencies
Found and removing 0 unneeded dependencies
Fehler: Paket: libdrm-devel-2.4.40-1.fc18.x86_64 (fedora)
            Benötigt: libdrm = 2.4.40-1.fc18
            Installiert: libdrm-2.4.40-2.fc18.x86_64 (@updates-testing)
                libdrm = 2.4.40-2.fc18
            Verfügbar: libdrm-2.4.40-1.fc18.x86_64 (fedora)
                libdrm = 2.4.40-1.fc18
 Sie können versuchen mit --skip-broken das Problem zu umgehen.
 You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest

[Joe Zeff]

On 01/19/2013 04:46 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> look below what happens with install "KDE Software Development"
> here with updates-testing is enabled, but however for whatever
> reason it can not resolve even deps (yes i used yum clean all
> and rm -rf/var/cache/yum/*)

As I wrote before, I said that he *might* need it, not that he *would.*

[Reindl Harald]

Am 20.01.2013 01:54, schrieb Joe Zeff:
> On 01/19/2013 04:46 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> > look below what happens with install "KDE Software Development"
> > here with updates-testing is enabled, but however for whatever
> > reason it can not resolve even deps (yes i used yum clean all
> > and rm -rf/var/cache/yum/*)
>
> As I wrote before, I said that he *might* need it, not that he *would.*

and telling a noob it might will end in he does
that is how are people "work" if someone from
whom they believe he know what he does recommends things

they are doing whatever the person said without reflection

[David]

On 1/19/2013 6:40 PM, Michael Eager wrote:
> On 01/19/2013 01:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > On 01/19/2013 12:44 PM, Michael Eager wrote:
> > > I just installed F18 from the live CD.  I'm trying to install and
> > > switch to KDE.
> > >
> > > If I enter "switchdesk kde", I get a message saying to run "yum
> > > groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)". Yum says that Group
> > > KDE does not exist.
> > >
> > > Other than re-installing from the F18-Live-KDE CD, how can I
> > > switch desktops?
> >
> > Your question contains its own answer.  As root, use yum to
> > install KDE the way the message tells you to.
>
> My message also contained the response from yum, that Group KDE does
> not exist.

Ordinary users, not techs or devs,  are trying to help you. Smart A$$
replies to them will not help you solve your situation.

For example? I know exactly how to solve your situation. Really simply.
Really easily. My answer? After your Smart A$$ replies?

Crickets. Silence.

Be nice and I will give you the answer. Else?

Have a nice day. I gone.

[Rares Aioanei]

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:38:04 -0800
Joe Zeff  wrote:
> On 01/19/2013 04:29 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> > it is a VERY bad idea for someone who simply wants KDE
> >
> > why should someone install some hundret MB of
> > software and dependecies just for fun?
>
> I don't do kernel development, but I need to have kernel-devel and 
> kernel-headers installed.  (At least I think I need both of them.  I
> do know that I need at least one of those two installed.)  That's
> because I have an nVidia graphics card and use akmod-nvidia, which
> needs them.  My thought was that the OP might find out the hard way
> that some of the KDE software expects some of that to be available,
> but I wasn't sure. That's why I said that he *might* want it
> installed.

For nvidia you only need kernel-headers.

[Michael Schwendt]

On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 12:44:21 -0800, Michael Eager wrote:
> I just installed F18 from the live CD.  I'm trying
> to install and switch to KDE.
>
> If I enter "switchdesk kde", I get a message saying to
> run "yum groupinstall "KDE (K Desktop Environment)".
> Yum says that Group KDE does not exist.

Right.
> Other than re-installing from the F18-Live-KDE CD, how
> can I switch desktops?

$ yum grouplist|grep KDE
   KDE Plasma Workspaces

$ yum grouplist hidden|grep KDE
   KDE Plasma Workspaces
   Critical Path (KDE)
   KDE Applications
   KDE Educational applications
   KDE Multimedia support
   KDE Office
   KDE Plasma Workspaces
   KDE Software Development
   KDE Telepathy