My classmate has bought a computer with GT220. When I download Nvidia Driver,use init 3 to run it. but it prompt that cannot find nvidia.ko.. I have searched Google,and changed menu.lst,added *nouveau.modeset=0
*This time,I have install Nvidia Driver success,but when I reboot,I can't login it,it's blank screen. I have try many times,I found,when I use *init 3*,and run *rmmod nouveau*,then I can use *startx* login to Gnome.
But it's too troublesome,I want to know how to do,then I can turn on the computer and direct into Gnome...
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:20:20 +0800 严晶涛 yanjingtao@innlab.net wrote:
My classmate has bought a computer with GT220. When I download Nvidia Driver,use init 3 to run it. but it prompt that cannot find nvidia.ko.. I have searched Google,and changed menu.lst,added *nouveau.modeset=0
*This time,I have install Nvidia Driver success,but when I reboot,I can't login it,it's blank screen. I have try many times,I found,when I use *init 3*,and run *rmmod nouveau*,then I can use *startx* login to Gnome.
But it's too troublesome,I want to know how to do,then I can turn on the computer and direct into Gnome...
http://fedorasolved.org/video-solutions/nvidia-yum-kmod/
kevin
Thank you! I'll have a try...
2010/3/14 Kevin Fenzi kevin@scrye.com
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:20:20 +0800 严晶涛 yanjingtao@innlab.net wrote:
My classmate has bought a computer with GT220. When I download Nvidia Driver,use init 3 to run it. but it prompt that cannot find nvidia.ko.. I have searched Google,and changed menu.lst,added *nouveau.modeset=0
*This time,I have install Nvidia Driver success,but when I reboot,I can't login it,it's blank screen. I have try many times,I found,when I use *init 3*,and run *rmmod nouveau*,then I can use *startx* login to Gnome.
But it's too troublesome,I want to know how to do,then I can turn on the computer and direct into Gnome...
http://fedorasolved.org/video-solutions/nvidia-yum-kmod/
kevin
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On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 23:22 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
I seem to recall that you may also have to re-install (repair) the xorg installation, as the NVidia installer stuffs up some of the files (that's NVidia's own installer, not the RPM Fusion Fedora packaged files).
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:27:00 +1030 Tim ignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au wrote:
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 23:22 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
I seem to recall that you may also have to re-install (repair) the xorg installation, as the NVidia installer stuffs up some of the files (that's NVidia's own installer, not the RPM Fusion Fedora packaged files).
Yeah, if you unfortunately installed the driver from the nvidia script, you should take a look at:
http://fedorasolved.org/video-solutions/remove-nvidia-installer/
first.
kevin
210/3/14 严晶涛 yanjingtao@innlab.net:
My classmate has bought a computer with GT220. When I download Nvidia Driver,use init 3 to run it. but it prompt that cannot find nvidia.ko.. I have searched Google,and changed menu.lst,added nouveau.modeset=0
This time,I have install Nvidia Driver success,but when I reboot,I can't login it,it's blank screen. I have try many times,I found,when I use init 3,and run rmmod nouveau,then I can use startx login to Gnome.
But it's too troublesome,I want to know how to do,then I can turn on the computer and direct into Gnome...
In my experience, the only instructions that work are here, at rpmfusion, who provides the kernel module:
On 01/-10/-28163 11:59 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:27:00 +1030 Timignored_mailbox@yahoo.com.au wrote:
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 23:22 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
I seem to recall that you may also have to re-install (repair) the xorg installation, as the NVidia installer stuffs up some of the files (that's NVidia's own installer, not the RPM Fusion Fedora packaged files).
Yeah, if you unfortunately installed the driver from the nvidia script, you should take a look at:
http://fedorasolved.org/video-solutions/remove-nvidia-installer/
first.
kevin
With these do you not have to recompile kernel everytime you install new nvidia driver? Amiga5
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:57:20 -0700 Amiga5 Amiga5@live.com wrote:
With these do you not have to recompile kernel everytime you install new nvidia driver?
No. There is sometimes a short delay when a fedora kernel comes out before the rpmfusion kmod is available, but it's usually less than a day.
Amiga5
kevin
2010/3/14 Marcel Rieux m.z.rieux@gmail.com:
210/3/14 严晶涛 yanjingtao@innlab.net:
My classmate has bought a computer with GT220. When I download Nvidia Driver,use init 3 to run it. but it prompt that cannot find nvidia.ko.. I have searched Google,and changed menu.lst,added nouveau.modeset=0
This time,I have install Nvidia Driver success,but when I reboot,I can't login it,it's blank screen. I have try many times,I found,when I use init 3,and run rmmod nouveau,then I can use startx login to Gnome.
But it's too troublesome,I want to know how to do,then I can turn on the computer and direct into Gnome...
In my experience, the only instructions that work are here, at rpmfusion, who provides the kernel module:
Maybe I should add that, if I were you, I'd forget about Nvidia drivers altogether. Nvidia offers no support for Linux and, since it's not open source, you don't get much from the community either. Even if the community wanted, without the source code, it would be minimal.
My advice: stay with Nouveau.
2010/3/15 Marcel Rieux m.z.rieux@gmail.com
2010/3/14 Marcel Rieux m.z.rieux@gmail.com:
210/3/14 严晶涛 yanjingtao@innlab.net:
My classmate has bought a computer with GT220. When I download Nvidia Driver,use init 3 to run it. but it prompt that cannot find nvidia.ko.. I have searched Google,and changed menu.lst,added nouveau.modeset=0
This time,I have install Nvidia Driver success,but when I reboot,I can't login it,it's blank screen. I have try many times,I found,when I use init 3,and run rmmod
nouveau,then I
can use startx login to Gnome.
But it's too troublesome,I want to know how to do,then I can turn on the computer and direct into Gnome...
In my experience, the only instructions that work are here, at rpmfusion, who provides the kernel module:
Maybe I should add that, if I were you, I'd forget about Nvidia drivers altogether. Nvidia offers no support for Linux and, since it's not open source, you don't get much from the community either. Even if the community wanted, without the source code, it would be minimal.
My advice: stay with Nouveau.
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Out of curiosity, when does Nouveau plan to be able to offer the same 3D capabilities, if even in alpha-experimental form? That's the only thing keeping me from leaving the NVidia drivers for Nouveau.
"On 08:30:12 pm Marcel Rieux m.z.rieux@gmail.com said"
Maybe I should add that, if I were you, I'd forget about Nvidia drivers altogether. Nvidia offers no support for Linux and, since it's not open source, you don't get much from the community either. Even if the community wanted, without the source code, it would be minimal.
My advice: stay with Nouveau.
I use an Nvidia GeForce 6150 on another flavor of Linux and it works great, even with effects turned on. ymmv.
Mike.
Amiga5:
With these do you not have to recompile kernel everytime you install new nvidia driver?
Kevin Fenzi:
No. There is sometimes a short delay when a fedora kernel comes out before the rpmfusion kmod is available, but it's usually less than a day.
If you use the akmod, rather than kmod, package, it *automatically* recompiles (if and when needed by kernel changes) during the system boot.
I was sceptical about doing that, thinking that it'd make every boot up slower, as it worked out whether it needed to recompile or simply use what it'd made the last time. But that hasn't really been a noticeable problem. Likewise, I wondered about the time involved in recompiling, when it had to; it wasn't that bad, and it didn't foul up, either.
2010/3/14 Fred Williams dukederf@googlemail.com:
2010/3/15 Marcel Rieux m.z.rieux@gmail.com
2010/3/14 Marcel Rieux m.z.rieux@gmail.com:
210/3/14 严晶涛 yanjingtao@innlab.net:
My classmate has bought a computer with GT220. When I download Nvidia Driver,use init 3 to run it. but it prompt that cannot find nvidia.ko.. I have searched Google,and changed menu.lst,added nouveau.modeset=0
This time,I have install Nvidia Driver success,but when I reboot,I can't login it,it's blank screen. I have try many times,I found,when I use init 3,and run rmmod nouveau,then I can use startx login to Gnome.
But it's too troublesome,I want to know how to do,then I can turn on the computer and direct into Gnome...
In my experience, the only instructions that work are here, at rpmfusion, who provides the kernel module:
Maybe I should add that, if I were you, I'd forget about Nvidia drivers altogether. Nvidia offers no support for Linux and, since it's not open source, you don't get much from the community either. Even if the community wanted, without the source code, it would be minimal.
My advice: stay with Nouveau.
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Out of curiosity, when does Nouveau plan to be able to offer the same 3D capabilities, if even in alpha-experimental form? That's the only thing keeping me from leaving the NVidia drivers for Nouveau.
Nouveau 3D acceleration testing
Bruno Wolff noted[1] that experimental 3D acceleration for nouveau was now available in the mesa-dri-drivers-experimental package, and asked whether it was yet at a point where the developers would be interested in bug reports. Adam Williamson promised to pass the question along to the nouveau maintainer.
1. ↑ http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-February/088305.html
From: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue212#Nouveau_3D_acceleration_testing
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 00:37:35 +0000, Fred Williams dukederf@googlemail.com wrote:
Out of curiosity, when does Nouveau plan to be able to offer the same 3D capabilities, if even in alpha-experimental form? That's the only thing keeping me from leaving the NVidia drivers for Nouveau.
Some 3d support is there now, but it still has a way to go as far as expecting to be able to play 3d games. In F13 you can install mesa-dri-drivers-experimental and try it out. This is pretty basic 3d support. Phoronix did some benchmarks and found it still 5 to 10 times slower than nVidia drivers on recent cards.
If Nouveau is good enough for your needs, using it instead of the proprietary drivers will save you some grief. But if it doesn't do what you need, you'll need to do something else.
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 8:54 PM, ka1ifq ka1ifq@sbcglobal.net wrote:
"On 08:30:12 pm Marcel Rieux m.z.rieux@gmail.com said"
Maybe I should add that, if I were you, I'd forget about Nvidia drivers altogether. Nvidia offers no support for Linux and, since it's not open source, you don't get much from the community either. Even if the community wanted, without the source code, it would be minimal.
My advice: stay with Nouveau.
I use an Nvidia GeForce 6150 on another flavor of Linux and it works great, even with effects turned on. ymmv.
I was undoubtedly impatient when I wrote this: 3D works perfectly here too. The problem is getting 2 screens to play well together and getting sound to the TV through the HDMI cable, even with the S/PDIF wire installed.
As for hardware accelerated 3D, as I wrote to Fred Williams, it seems in the works, though it might take some time before it's stable. So, one has to estimate if he's interested in wobbly windows and The Cube to the point of making updates uncertain.
While researching for my answer here, I also found this at rpmfusion:
To use the default initrd, but disable the nouveau driver, edit /etc/grub.conf and add the following to the end of the line(s) starting with 'kernel':
rdblacklist=nouveau
===================
Though I updated to Fedora 12, I don't have this line in grub.conf, but I'm far from sure this is causing the problem.
What are the advantages of using the defautl initrd and disabling the nouveau driver, I have no idea, No doubt a few hours of search at Google's would provide the answer, but I'm getting fed up.
I could add the line but, just in case adding this would get me to a blank screen -- who knows? -- I want to make sure I can mount the /boot partition with the Fedora LiveCD. I'm used to doing this with Knoppix, which mounts partitions with just a few check marks. But, on my system, Knoppix 6.2.1 boots to a blank screen on my system, just as Ubuntu does.
So much fun, just to find out what is the purpose of this incomplete documentation! Fun that I would most probably would not have with Windows :)
( I put a smiley. I hope Ed Gresko will be satisfied :) <= Other smiley. )
in your grub.conf add
In order to keep compatibility with nouveau http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia#nouveau, you either need to recreate the initrd manually after the driver has been installed, or add a command line option to the kernel. To recreate the initrd:
su - mv /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r)-nouveau.img dracut /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img $(uname -r)
To use the default initrd, but disable the nouveau driver, edit /etc/grub.conf and add the following to the end of the line(s) starting with 'kernel':
rdblacklist=nouveau
Before using the driver, you need to lower your system protection so SElinux doesn't prevent the driver to load.
setsebool -P allow_execstack on
http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia#head-205aab6f190d363e3915c0fa2e0681fc392aa...
On 01/-10/-28163 11:59 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote:
210/3/14 ???yanjingtao@innlab.net:
My classmate has bought a computer with GT220. When I download Nvidia Driver,use init 3 to run it. but it prompt that cannot find nvidia.ko.. I have searched Google,and changed menu.lst,added nouveau.modeset=> This time,I have install Nvidia Driver success,but when I reboot,I can't login it,it's blank screen. I have try many times,I found,when I use init 3,and run rmmod nouveau,then I can use startx login to Gnome.
But it's too troublesome,I want to know how to do,then I can turn on the computer and direct into Gnome...
In my experience, the only instructions that work are here, at rpmfusion, who provides the kernel module:
On 01/-10/-28163 11:59 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote:
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 8:54 PM, ka1ifqka1ifq@sbcglobal.net wrote:
"On 08:30:12 pm Marcel Rieuxm.z.rieux@gmail.com said"
Maybe I should add that, if I were you, I'd forget about Nvidia drivers altogether. Nvidia offers no support for Linux and, since it's not open source, you don't get much from the community either. Even if the community wanted, without the source code, it would be minimal.
My advice: stay with Nouveau.
I use an Nvidia GeForce 6150 on another flavor of Linux and it works great, even with effects turned on. ymmv.
I was undoubtedly impatient when I wrote this: 3D works perfectly here too. The problem is getting 2 screens to play well together and getting sound to the TV through the HDMI cable, even with the S/PDIF wire installed.
As for hardware accelerated 3D, as I wrote to Fred Williams, it seems in the works, though it might take some time before it's stable. So, one has to estimate if he's interested in wobbly windows and The Cube to the point of making updates uncertain.
While researching for my answer here, I also found this at rpmfusion:
To use the default initrd, but disable the nouveau driver, edit /etc/grub.conf and add the following to the end of the line(s) starting with 'kernel':
rdblacklist=uveau
================ Though I updated to Fedora 12, I don't have this line in grub.conf, but I'm far from sure this is causing the problem.
What are the advantages of using the defautl initrd and disabling the nouveau driver, I have no idea, No doubt a few hours of search at Google's would provide the answer, but I'm getting fed up.
I could add the line but, just in case adding this would get me to a blank screen -- who knows? -- I want to make sure I can mount the /boot partition with the Fedora LiveCD. I'm used to doing this with Knoppix, which mounts partitions with just a few check marks. But, on my system, Knoppix 6.2.1 boots to a blank screen on my system, just as Ubuntu does.
So much fun, just to find out what is the purpose of this incomplete documentation! Fun that I would most probably would not have with Windows :)
( I put a smiley. I hope Ed Gresko will be satisfied :)<=ther smiley. )
And no cuda without the drivers
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Amiga5 Amiga5@live.com wrote:
in your grub.conf add
In order to keep compatibility with nouveau
lsmod | grep nouveau
outputs nothing. So, I suppose I don't have compatibility with Nouveau.
My question here is what's the purpose of keeping compatibility with Nouveau. To switch back and forth from Nvidia to Nouveau?
, you either need to recreate the initrd manually after the driver has been installed, or add a command line option to the kernel. To recreate the initrd:
su - mv /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r)-nouveau.img dracut /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img $(uname -r)
I have:
$ locate initramfs /boot/initramfs-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.x86_64.img /boot/initramfs-2.6.32.9-67.fc12.x86_64.img /boot/initramfs-2.6.32.9-70.fc12.x86_64.img
$ locate /boot/initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.29.5-191.fc11.x86_64-nouveau.img
To use the default initrd, but disable the nouveau driver, edit /etc/grub.conf and add the following to the end of the line(s) starting with 'kernel':
rdblacklist=nouveau
I don't have this in grub.conf
So, from what I gather, my configuration shouldn't prevent the Nvidia driver from working in any way, correct?
Thanks for your help!
On Wednesday 17 March 2010 04:15:51 am Marcel Rieux wrote:
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Amiga5 Amiga5@live.com wrote:
in your grub.conf add
In order to keep compatibility with nouveau
lsmod | grep nouveau
outputs nothing. So, I suppose I don't have compatibility with Nouveau.
lsmod lists modules that are currently loaded into the kernel. It has nothing whatsoever to do with compatibility.
Compatibility is about nvidia drivers and nouveau drivers, or rather lack of compatibility. You must not have both modules loaded, they are mutually exclusive (if they are to work properly). However, you have to make sure yourself that when you use one the other does not load. That's why you have to either blacklist nouveau or rebuild initramfs if you want to use nvidia. That's also why you have to completely uninstall nvidia if you want to use nouveau.
My question here is what's the purpose of keeping compatibility with Nouveau. To switch back and forth from Nvidia to Nouveau?
There is no compatibility between them. They are completely incompatible, and cannot live together at all.
, you either need to recreate the initrd manually after the driver has been installed, or add a command line option to the kernel. To recreate the initrd:
su - mv /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r)-nouveau.img dracut /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img $(uname -r)
I have:
$ locate initramfs /boot/initramfs-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12.x86_64.img /boot/initramfs-2.6.32.9-67.fc12.x86_64.img /boot/initramfs-2.6.32.9-70.fc12.x86_64.img
$ locate /boot/initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.29.5-191.fc11.x86_64-nouveau.img
Of course you have the files, but they have different contents. Note that he said *recreate*. That means moving the file elsewhere and creating a new file (with the same name but different contents) in its place. The fact that you have those files in /boot doesn't say anything about their contents.
To use the default initrd, but disable the nouveau driver, edit /etc/grub.conf and add the following to the end of the line(s) starting with
'kernel': rdblacklist=nouveau
I don't have this in grub.conf
That is an alternative to recreating the initramfs above, more convenient for some users. You can either recreate initramfs, or use the rdblacklist option in the kernel, with the same goal of preventing nouveau from loading at startup. And you have to do that if you want to use the nvidia blob instead of nouveau.
And the other way around, if you want to use nouveau, you must uninstall and remove all traces of the nvidia blob (and recreate initramfs yet again, and/or remove the rdblacklist option from grub.conf, in order to re-allow nouveau to load at boot).
So, from what I gather, my configuration shouldn't prevent the Nvidia driver from working in any way, correct?
You didn't actually provide any information above that can be used to determine the state of your system. Since you don't have the rdblacklist option in grub.conf, I can only guess that *if* your initramfs is original from the installation, nouveau should get loaded and you should *not* try to use the nvidia driver. However, *if* you did recreate the initramfs to blacklist nouveau (after installing the nvida blob from rpmfusion), than you should be ok to run the nvidia driver.
Does this make things clearer?
Marko
P.S. Marcel, note the total absence of smileys and the lack of "HTH" in my signature above. It might have something to do with car differentials and sarcasm. Think about it.
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Marko Vojinovic vvmarko@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday 17 March 2010 04:15:51 am Marcel Rieux wrote:
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Amiga5 Amiga5@live.com wrote:
in your grub.conf add
In order to keep compatibility with nouveau
lsmod | grep nouveau
outputs nothing. So, I suppose I don't have compatibility with Nouveau.
lsmod lists modules that are currently loaded into the kernel. It has nothing whatsoever to do with compatibility.
I know, I don't want to achieve compatibility. I just want to make sure that there is no halfway right compatibility setting that would prevent the Nvidia driver from working correctly.
You'll remember that I have problems with getting two "clean" monitors (5x4 monitor/ 16x9 tv).
P.S. Marcel, note the total absence of smileys and the lack of "HTH" in my signature above. It might have something to do with car differentials and sarcasm. Think about it.
What you must understand here is that you're dealing with a Karl 3, Microsoft troll freeloader who will soon dare discuss users' POV on Fedora's development model on a Fedora general group instead of on LWN's forums.
In these conditions, sarcasm makes for shorter answers.
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