Moderated message...

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

On 01/20/2014 03:57 PM, Todd Zullinger wrote:
>  Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > Let's get the list back on topic please. I see no extenuating
> > cause for the bad language and vitriol being tossed around
> > here.
>
>  I marked this thread as moderated to help with that. There are
>  certainly plenty of more appropriate places to have this sort of
>  conversation. And there's plenty of things to discuss here that
>  are  on-topic.
>
>  Thanks to all to understanding.
>
>
>  
Aw shucks - just when it was getting fun - I was even sworn at.

Oh well - back under my rock.

Mikkel
-- 
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!

[Frank Murphy]

On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:44:07 -0600
"Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mellertson(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
>  for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! 
Where do you get them!

___
Regards,
Frank 
www.frankly3d.com

[Frank Murphy]

On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 18:23:39 -0600
"Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mellertson(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  The inspiration came from a Tolkien quote and a suggestion from 
>  another member on a Linux mailing list. This can not be the first 
>  time you have seen my signature
>  
>  Mikkel 
Sigs were coming in as white, I originally did that, to avoid them
Only recently changed it around as journalctl has lots of --

___
Regards,
Frank 
www.frankly3d.com

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

On 01/21/2014 04:27 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
>  On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:49:00 -0600
>  "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mellertson(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>
> > Dragons, or my signature?
>  Sig, ready made, or good writing skill.
>
>  ___
>  Regards,
>  Frank
>  www.frankly3d.com
>  
The inspiration came from a Tolkien quote and a suggestion from 
another member on a Linux mailing list. This can not be the first 
time you have seen my signature

Mikkel
-- 
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and 
taste good with Ketchup!

[Joe Zeff]

On 01/21/2014 02:22 PM, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>  "Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for they are subtle and quick
>  to anger." 
"Do not meddle in the affairs of BOFHs, for they have the root password 
and don't need to be subtle."

[Michael Hennebry]

On Tue, 21 Jan 2014, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:

>  On 01/21/2014 10:43 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Jan 2014, Frank Murphy wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:44:07 -0600
> >> "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mellertson(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> >>
> >>> Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
> >>> for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
> >>
> >> Where do you get them!
> >
> > I doubt he knows.
> > Methinks it predates the internet.
> > Unless he is the author,
> > it belongs in quotes even if he does not know the author.
> >
>  It was inspired by a line in one of the Fortune answers files, but 
>  it is not a direct quote of either the line in the fortune file or 
>  from the source of the entry. Therefore it should not be quoted. Not 
>  there is a quoter from Tolkien that reads: 
I am aware of the ultimate inspiration,
also that the "wizards" were really one wizard.

>  "Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for they are subtle
> and 
>  quick to anger."
>
>  There is also a version of my signature that reads:
>
>  "Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and 
>  taste good with Ketchup!"
>
>  But I like my version better. I am trying to remember when I started 
>  using it - it has to be more then 5 years ago. 
Your change required less intellectual effort than a translation.
Translations do require attribution.
Absent the slightest indication that the saying was not entirely yours,
anyone whose job is is to decide plagiarism cases would decide against you.
That said, almost anything, e.g. "derived from a line in a Fortune file",
would be sufficient to defeat such a charge.

-- 
Michael   hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu
Iluvatar is the better part of Valar.

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

On 01/21/2014 02:20 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
>  On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:44:07 -0600
>  "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mellertson(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>
> > Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
> > for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
>  Where do you get them!
>
>  ___
>  Regards,
>  Frank
>  www.frankly3d.com
>  
Dragons, or my signature?

Mikkel
-- 
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and 
taste good with Ketchup!

[Frank Murphy]

On Tue, 21 Jan 2014 13:49:00 -0600
"Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mellertson(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  Dragons, or my signature? 
Sig, ready made, or good writing skill.

___
Regards,
Frank 
www.frankly3d.com

[Mikkel L. Ellertson]

On 01/21/2014 10:43 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>  On Tue, 21 Jan 2014, Frank Murphy wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:44:07 -0600
> > "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mellertson(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> >
> >> Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
> >> for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
> >
> > Where do you get them!
>
>  I doubt he knows.
>  Methinks it predates the internet.
>  Unless he is the author,
>  it belongs in quotes even if he does not know the author.
>  
It was inspired by a line in one of the Fortune answers files, but 
it is not a direct quote of either the line in the fortune file or 
from the source of the entry. Therefore it should not be quoted. Not 
there is a quoter from Tolkien that reads:

"Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for they are subtle and 
quick to anger."

There is also a version of my signature that reads:

"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and 
taste good with Ketchup!"

But I like my version better. I am trying to remember when I started 
using it - it has to be more then 5 years ago.

Mikkel
-- 
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and 
taste good with Ketchup!

[Michael Hennebry]

On Tue, 21 Jan 2014, Frank Murphy wrote:

>  On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 20:44:07 -0600
>  "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mellertson(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>
> > Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
> > for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
>
>  Where do you get them! 
I doubt he knows.
Methinks it predates the internet.
Unless he is the author,
it belongs in quotes even if he does not know the author.

-- 
Michael   hennebry(a)web.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu
Iluvatar is the better part of Valar.