f10 annoying bugs/enhancements: chooser

[François Patte]

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Bonjour,

New chooser in f10 (I mean the screen where you used to enter login and
password).

We can see all users of the machine, just click on your name, then enter
your pass.... OK. At home, my small family... no problem.

At the university: 300 students allowed to login on one computer.... or
ldap authentication....

How to disable this "enhancement" and fall back to an old-style chooser
(login/password, maybe a nice picture...)

Thanks for suggestions

- --
François Patte
UFR de mathématiques et informatique
Université Paris Descartes
Tél. [phone]
http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
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[François Patte]

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Le 14/03/2009 16:37, Kevin Kofler a écrit :
>  François Patte wrote:
> > I would like the chooser in French
>  
>  Set the systemwide default locale in /etc/sysconfig/i18n:
>  LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8" 
It is like this, but I have "Enter your login name" in the chooser....
Don't know why other things are in French: "Langues" "Session"
(this one
is not meaningful!

- --
François Patte
UFR de mathématiques et informatique
Université Paris Descartes
45, rue des Saints Pères
F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tél. [phone]
http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
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[paul s]

>  Not in any F10 I've ever installed. Are you installing from
>  a KDE-centric liveCD  spin or something? 
yeah, totally slipped on that... figured since fedora chose kde, moving 
forward the kdm would be setup as the default in other spins...

plus the reference to :

>  New chooser in f10 (I mean the screen where you used to enter login
>  and password). 
my bad, i focused on new...


On 03/12/2009 08:37 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:
>  On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:30:58 -0400
>  paul s wrote:
>  
> > a clean installation f10 will use the kdm, gdm i don't believe is 
> > included with the distro...
>  
>  Not in any F10 I've ever installed. Are you installing from
>  a KDE-centric liveCD  spin or something?
>

[Sam Sharpe]

2009/3/13 Tom Horsley <tom.horsley(a)att.net&gt;:
>  On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:24:18 +0000
>  Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
>
> > One of my colleagues just mentioned a
> > feeling that GDM had been patched to automatically disable the user
> > list if you have a lot of users
>
>  My impression is that the algorithm is to display only locally
>  defined users in F10, not NIS etc. (and even then, only
>  locally defined regular users, not system accounts). 
That's interesting. My user definitely isn't defined locally, but I
was wondering if GDM also shows people who have logged in (or maybe
the last logged-in?).

-- 
Sam

[paul s]

>  New chooser in f10 (I mean the screen where you used to enter login
>  and password).
>  
a clean installation f10 will use the kdm, gdm i don't believe is 
included with the distro...

>  How to disable this "enhancement" and fall back to an
> old-style
>  chooser (login/password 
edit the section in /etc/kde/kdm/kdmrc

[X-*-Greeter]
...
UserList=true

change to false no users will be listed...

>  maybe a nice picture...) 
edit the section in /etc/kde/kdm/backgroundrc

[Desktop0]
...
Wallpaper=/usr/share/wallpapers/solar.png

change to some other image...

cheers
paul




On 03/12/2009 07:47 AM, François Patte wrote:
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>  Bonjour,
>  
>  New chooser in f10 (I mean the screen where you used to enter login and
>  password).
>  
>  We can see all users of the machine, just click on your name, then enter
>  your pass.... OK. At home, my small family... no problem.
>  
>  At the university: 300 students allowed to login on one computer.... or
>  ldap authentication....
>  
>  How to disable this "enhancement" and fall back to an old-style chooser
>  (login/password, maybe a nice picture...)
>  
>  Thanks for suggestions
>  
>  - --
>  François Patte
>  UFR de mathématiques et informatique
>  Université Paris Descartes
>  Tél. [phone]
>  http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
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[Tim]

On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 23:37 +0000, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
>  I have a feeling that Paul's solution won't work because GDM
> in Fedora
>  9 (unless it's changed massively since I upgraded) isn't configured in
>  GConf. 
Not surprised.

>  You will probably find that my /etc/gdm/custom.conf solution
>  works, because when I wrote that customisation in our organisational
>  installer, that is what I was using. 
No, it doesn't.  I'd already tried that.  GDM has refused any
customisation that I've tried since putting Fedora 9 on two computers,
here.

What I've currently got in the file, testing it:

--------- begin paste of /etc/gdm/custom.conf ----------
# GDM configuration storage

[greeter]
Browser=false
BackgroundImage=/usr/share/backgrounds/nature/FreshFlower.jpg
Exclude=testuser
-------- end paste ---------

Tried turning the browser off, tried changing the background, tried
explicitly listing usernames not to be displayed in the browser.  No
configuration controls have any effect.

I find it rather incredible that such radical changes were accepted to a
package to included in the distribution.  Even more so that it's never
been fixed.

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[Sam Sharpe]

2009/3/12 Tim <ignored_mailbox(a)yahoo.com.au&gt;:
>  On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 11:05 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > This should work fine:
> >
> > $ su -               # enter root password at prompt
> > $ GCONFSYS=$(gconftool-2 --get-default-source)
> > $ gconftool-2 --config-source=$GCONFSYS --set
> /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list \
> >   --type bool true
> >
> > Just tried it on my F10 box and it works like a charm.  You can't get
> > rid of the "Other..." selection AFAICT, but all the other faces
> > disappear as expected.  If you want the faces back, use "false."
>
>  Doesn't change a thing, on Fedora 9.  And I have rebooted.  I've tried
>  something like that before, too (as posted on this list a week or so
>  ago), with the same lack of success.
>
>  I should make it clear that I'm not trying to hide face pictures in the
>  chooser, I don't want any list of names. 
I have a feeling that Paul's solution won't work because GDM in Fedora
9 (unless it's changed massively since I upgraded) isn't configured in
GConf. You will probably find that my /etc/gdm/custom.conf solution
works, because when I wrote that customisation in our organisational
installer, that is what I was using.

-- 
Sam

[Sam Sharpe]

Paul W. Frields wrote:
>  On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:27:40AM +1030, Tim wrote:
> > Sharpe, Sam J:
> >>> Add or edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and add this section:
> >>>
> >>> [greeter]
> >>> Browser=false
> >>>
> >>> Then restart gdm...
> > fred smith:
> >> This doesn't seem to work in F10. I remember seeing other posts on it,
>  This should work fine:
>  
>  $ su -               # enter root password at prompt
>  $ GCONFSYS=$(gconftool-2 --get-default-source)
>  $ gconftool-2 --config-source=$GCONFSYS --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list
> \
>    --type bool true 
That's interesting. I thought for a moment that I had that set, but I've 
checked and I don't.

[sam@sam ~]$ gconftool-2 \ 
--config-source=xml:merged:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults \
--get /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list
false

[sam@sam ~]$ gconftool-2 \
--config-source=xml:merged:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.system \
--get /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list
No value set for `/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list'

[sam@sam ~]$ gconftool-2 \
--config-source=xml:merged:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory \
--get /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list
No value set for `/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list'

... so now I'm mystified why it "works for me (tm)"!

--
Sam

[Tim]

Sharpe, Sam J:
> > Add or edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and add this section:
> > 
> > [greeter]
> > Browser=false
> > 
> > Then restart gdm... 
fred smith:
>  This doesn't seem to work in F10. I remember seeing other posts
> on it,
>  and the consensus was th at a lot of the configurability has been disabled,
>  including the ability to control the font size (which on my eeepc is HUGE
>  on the small screen).
>  
>  Allegedly, replacing it with the one from F9 solves the proglem, though
>  I haven't tried that. 
Well, I'm using Fedora 9, and nothing that I've tried stops that damn
user list appearing on GDM.  Neither does anything stop the inclusion of
names I want excluded.  I've even tried changing the background image,
and it ignores that instruction, too.

I've got no kind words for the thing.  It's not configurable.  It's slow
to fire up, *much* slower than the GDM logon screen on Fedora 7.  Every
log on requires cursoring through the list, or typing the name, since it
NEVER starts with reselecting the same name that logged in previously,
nor does the list appear to be in any detectable sorting order (user ID,
user name, real name, nothing).

I tried using XDM, instead, but it doesn't start something that Gnome
needs to run.  I don't want *anything* to do with KDE on my system, so
KDM's not getting a look in.

Just a straight type in username and password box, as it used to be,
would suit me.

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[Fred Smith]

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:56:41AM +0000, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
>  François Patte wrote:
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>  >
>  >Bonjour,
>  >
>  >New chooser in f10 (I mean the screen where you used to enter login and
>  >password).
>  >
>  >We can see all users of the machine, just click on your name, then enter
>  >your pass.... OK. At home, my small family... no problem.
>  >
>  >At the university: 300 students allowed to login on one computer.... or
>  >ldap authentication....
>  >
>  >How to disable this "enhancement" and fall back to an old-style chooser
>  >(login/password, maybe a nice picture...)
>  
>  Add or edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and add this section:
>  
>  [greeter]
>  Browser=false
>  
>  Then restart gdm... 
This doesn't seem to work in F10. I remember seeing other posts on it,
and the consensus was th at a lot of the configurability has been disabled,
including the ability to control the font size (which on my eeepc is HUGE
on the small screen).

Allegedly, replacing it with the one from F9 solves the proglem, though
I haven't tried that.

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[Alan Cox]

>  Changing /etc/gdm/custom.conf doesn't work on F10, for sure. All
> it 
>  contained before I edited it was empty sections xdcmp, chooser, security,
>  and debug. I added: 
The GNOME developers crippled gdm and never put back most of the
features after restructuring it. Replace it with one of the other greeters
and the world will be a better place. 

system-switch-displaymanager [foo]

will do the trick and the display manager and desktop used are not tied
you can keep the same desktop.

As it is gdm is basically useless if for example you have two people with
the same personal name.

In theory you can also write a new greeter (the bit that does the ask for
name/password etc) for gdm, but the current code is not exactly obvious.

[Sam Sharpe]

2009/3/13 Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler(a)chello.at&gt;:
>  Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
> > What the heck? A clean default installation of Fedora will use GDM -
> > The default is actually Gnome but not KDE.
>
>  Depends on the spin. ;-) 
Spins are a completely different kettle of fish. That's like me saying
"KDM is the default" just because the %post scripts in all the
kickstart files we use makes that the default.

By "Default installation", I meant installation from one of these
isos: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/x86...
because, If we're going to be picky, I'm going to claim that all the
F10 spins are Live CDs from which you can also perform an installation
- they aren't what I would traditionally represent as "default"
installs.

-- 
Sam

[Rahul Sundaram]

Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
>  2009/3/13 Kevin Kofler <kevin.kofler(a)chello.at&gt;:
> > Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
> >> What the heck? A clean default installation of Fedora will use GDM -
> >> The default is actually Gnome but not KDE.
> > Depends on the spin. ;-)
>  
>  Spins are a completely different kettle of fish. That's like me saying
>  "KDM is the default" just because the %post scripts in all the
>  kickstart files we use makes that the default.
>  
>  By "Default installation", I meant installation from one of these
>  isos: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora/x86...
>  because, If we're going to be picky, I'm going to claim that all the
>  F10 spins are Live CDs from which you can also perform an installation
>  - they aren't what I would traditionally represent as "default"
>  installs. 
Spins can be live or regular images though people who have proposed
spins have chosen to do live images (some are cd's. others are dvd's) ones.

Note that "default" option in http://get.fedoraproject.org is the
desktop live cd and not the Fedora DVD image. In fact, Fedora releases
can be thought of a sample set of spins and the tools are available in
the repository to do your own Fedora, just the way you like it. I kind
of have done that myself.

http://lwn.net/Articles/311650/

Rahul

[Sam Sharpe]

2009/3/13 paul s <fedora-list(a)queuemail.com&gt;:
> > New chooser in f10 (I mean the screen where you used to enter
> login
> > and password).
> >
>
>  a clean installation f10 will use the kdm, gdm i don't believe is included
>  with the distro... 
What the heck? A clean default installation of Fedora will use GDM -
The default is actually Gnome but not KDE.

GDM is definitely in the distro:
http://ftp.linux.org.uk/pub/distributions/fedora/linux/releases/10/Fedora...

(Have I just been bitten by a troll?)

-- 
Sam

[Tom Horsley]

On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:30:58 -0400
paul s wrote:

>  a clean installation f10 will use the kdm, gdm i don't believe is
>
>  included with the distro... 
Not in any F10 I've ever installed. Are you installing from
a KDE-centric liveCD  spin or something?

[Tom Horsley]

On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:24:18 +0000
Sharpe, Sam J wrote:

>  One of my colleagues just mentioned a
>  feeling that GDM had been patched to automatically disable the user
>  list if you have a lot of users 
My impression is that the algorithm is to display only locally
defined users in F10, not NIS etc. (and even then, only
locally defined regular users, not system accounts).

[Tim]

On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 11:05 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>  This should work fine:
>
>  $ su -               # enter root password at prompt
>  $ GCONFSYS=$(gconftool-2 --get-default-source)
>  $ gconftool-2 --config-source=$GCONFSYS --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list
> \
>    --type bool true
>
>  Just tried it on my F10 box and it works like a charm.  You can't get
>  rid of the "Other..." selection AFAICT, but all the other faces
>  disappear as expected.  If you want the faces back, use "false." 
Doesn't change a thing, on Fedora 9.  And I have rebooted.  I've tried
something like that before, too (as posted on this list a week or so
ago), with the same lack of success.

I should make it clear that I'm not trying to hide face pictures in the
chooser, I don't want any list of names.

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[Kevin Kofler]

Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
>  What the heck? A clean default installation of Fedora will use GDM -
>  The default is actually Gnome but not KDE. 
Depends on the spin. ;-)

The KDE spin defaults to KDM (and does not install GDM at all).
The GNOME ("Desktop") spin defaults to GDM (and does not install KDM).
For the DVD, it depends on what you select: KDM is installed if and only if
you choose KDE, GDM is implied by GNOME and XFCE. If both get installed,
GDM is the default, if only one gets installed, that's obviously the
default.
For spins.fedoraproject.org spins and custom remixes, it depends on what the
maintainer of the spin or remix chose.

        Kevin Kofler

[Kevin Kofler]

Tim wrote:
>  I tried using XDM, instead, but it doesn't start something that
> Gnome
>  needs to run. 
That "something" would be ConsoleKit. Only GDM and KDM support that in F10.

        Kevin Kofler

[Paul W. Frields]

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:27:40AM +1030, Tim wrote:
>  Sharpe, Sam J:
>  >> Add or edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and add this section:
>  >> 
>  >> [greeter]
>  >> Browser=false
>  >> 
>  >> Then restart gdm...
>  
>  fred smith:
>  > This doesn't seem to work in F10. I remember seeing other posts on it,
>  > and the consensus was th at a lot of the configurability has been disabled,
>  > including the ability to control the font size (which on my eeepc is HUGE
>  > on the small screen).
>  > 
>  > Allegedly, replacing it with the one from F9 solves the proglem, though
>  > I haven't tried that.
>  
>  Well, I'm using Fedora 9, and nothing that I've tried stops that damn
>  user list appearing on GDM.  Neither does anything stop the inclusion of
>  names I want excluded.  I've even tried changing the background image,
>  and it ignores that instruction, too.
>  
>  I've got no kind words for the thing.  It's not configurable.  It's slow
>  to fire up, *much* slower than the GDM logon screen on Fedora 7.  Every
>  log on requires cursoring through the list, or typing the name, since it
>  NEVER starts with reselecting the same name that logged in previously,
>  nor does the list appear to be in any detectable sorting order (user ID,
>  user name, real name, nothing).
>  
>  I tried using XDM, instead, but it doesn't start something that Gnome
>  needs to run.  I don't want *anything* to do with KDE on my system, so
>  KDM's not getting a look in.
>  
>  Just a straight type in username and password box, as it used to be,
>  would suit me. 
This should work fine:

$ su -               # enter root password at prompt
$ GCONFSYS=$(gconftool-2 --get-default-source)
$ gconftool-2 --config-source=$GCONFSYS --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list
\
  --type bool true

Just tried it on my F10 box and it works like a charm.  You can't get
rid of the "Other..." selection AFAICT, but all the other faces
disappear as expected.  If you want the faces back, use "false."

The gconf-editor doesn't yet support editing alternate configuration
choices like this yet, but perhaps a knowledgeable person on this list
could help with that.

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[Sam Sharpe]

fred smith wrote:
>  On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:56:41AM +0000, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
> > François Patte wrote:
> >> How to disable this "enhancement" and fall back to an old-style
> chooser
> >> (login/password, maybe a nice picture...)
> > Add or edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and add this section:
> >
> > [greeter]
> > Browser=false
> >
> > Then restart gdm...
>  
>  This doesn't seem to work in F10. I remember seeing other posts on it,
>  and the consensus was th at a lot of the configurability has been disabled,
>  including the ability to control the font size (which on my eeepc is HUGE
>  on the small screen).
>  
>  Allegedly, replacing it with the one from F9 solves the proglem, though
>  I haven't tried that. 
Err, I was actually speaking from experience.

That setting is from my Desktop machine running Fedora 10, which is 
connected to an LDAP directory. The search DN for this machine currently 
has 24 users in it.

My login screen currently shows Me and "Other..."

I have to admit that I haven't asked anyone else to login so it may be 
that it contains everyone who has logged in, the last user or some other 
smaller list - but it certainly doesn't contain everyone in the directory.

--
Sam

[Sam Sharpe]

François Patte wrote:
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>  Hash: SHA1
>  
>  Bonjour,
>  
>  New chooser in f10 (I mean the screen where you used to enter login and
>  password).
>  
>  We can see all users of the machine, just click on your name, then enter
>  your pass.... OK. At home, my small family... no problem.
>  
>  At the university: 300 students allowed to login on one computer.... or
>  ldap authentication....
>  
>  How to disable this "enhancement" and fall back to an old-style chooser
>  (login/password, maybe a nice picture...) 
Add or edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and add this section:

[greeter]
Browser=false

Then restart gdm...

--
Sam

[Kevin Kofler]

François Patte wrote:
>  I would like the chooser in French 
Set the systemwide default locale in /etc/sysconfig/i18n:
LANG="fr_FR.UTF-8"

        Kevin Kofler

[Sam Sharpe]

2009/3/12 fred smith <fredex(a)fcshome.stoneham.ma.us&gt;:
>  On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:37:15PM +0000, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
> > 2009/3/12 Tim <ignored_mailbox(a)yahoo.com.au&gt;:
> > > On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 11:05 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > >> This should work fine:
> > >>
> > >> $ su -               # enter root password at prompt
> > >> $ GCONFSYS=$(gconftool-2 --get-default-source)
> > >> $ gconftool-2 --config-source=$GCONFSYS --set
> /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list \
> > >>   --type bool true
> > >>
> > >> Just tried it on my F10 box and it works like a charm.  You can't get
> > >> rid of the "Other..." selection AFAICT, but all the other faces
> > >> disappear as expected.  If you want the faces back, use "false."
> > >
> > > Doesn't change a thing, on Fedora 9.  And I have rebooted.  I've tried
> > > something like that before, too (as posted on this list a week or so
> > > ago), with the same lack of success.
> > >
> > > I should make it clear that I'm not trying to hide face pictures in the
> > > chooser, I don't want any list of names.
> >
> > I have a feeling that Paul's solution won't work because GDM in Fedora
> > 9 (unless it's changed massively since I upgraded) isn't configured in
> > GConf. You will probably find that my /etc/gdm/custom.conf solution
> > works, because when I wrote that customisation in our organisational
> > installer, that is what I was using.
>
>  Changing /etc/gdm/custom.conf doesn't work on F10, for sure. All it
>  contained before I edited it was empty sections xdcmp, chooser, security,
>  and debug. I added:
>
>  [greeter]
>  browser=false 
Sorry for the stupid question, but is that all lower-case or does it
actually say Browser (I have no idea if that matters - mine is
capitalised)?

I've checked our config Repo, and we have:

f10:
echo "INFO: fix-config-files.sh: Disable GDM user list"
gconftool-2 --direct --config-source
xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults --type bool --set
/apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list true

(that's roughly what Paul posted)

f9:
Our installer attempts to configure consolehelper access to gdmsetup,
which implies you still have the gdmsetup program - have you tried
using it to configure the list?

I'm wondering now why my system displays just me and "Other..." - I'm
going to do some playing tomorrow (on someone else's machine) and see
what the difference is ;o) One of my colleagues just mentioned a
feeling that GDM had been patched to automatically disable the user
list if you have a lot of users, but I haven't checked if that's
actually the case - can anyone confirm or deny?

-- 
Sam

[Fred Smith]

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:37:15PM +0000, Sharpe, Sam J wrote:
>  2009/3/12 Tim <ignored_mailbox(a)yahoo.com.au&gt;:
>  > On Thu, 2009-03-12 at 11:05 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>  >> This should work fine:
>  >>
>  >> $ su -               # enter root password at prompt
>  >> $ GCONFSYS=$(gconftool-2 --get-default-source)
>  >> $ gconftool-2 --config-source=$GCONFSYS --set
> /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list \
>  >>   --type bool true
>  >>
>  >> Just tried it on my F10 box and it works like a charm.  You can't get
>  >> rid of the "Other..." selection AFAICT, but all the other faces
>  >> disappear as expected.  If you want the faces back, use "false."
>  >
>  > Doesn't change a thing, on Fedora 9.  And I have rebooted.  I've tried
>  > something like that before, too (as posted on this list a week or so
>  > ago), with the same lack of success.
>  >
>  > I should make it clear that I'm not trying to hide face pictures in the
>  > chooser, I don't want any list of names.
>  
>  I have a feeling that Paul's solution won't work because GDM in Fedora
>  9 (unless it's changed massively since I upgraded) isn't configured in
>  GConf. You will probably find that my /etc/gdm/custom.conf solution
>  works, because when I wrote that customisation in our organisational
>  installer, that is what I was using. 
Changing /etc/gdm/custom.conf doesn't work on F10, for sure. All it 
contained before I edited it was empty sections xdcmp, chooser, security,
and debug. I added:

[greeter]
browser=false

and it makes no diff at all.

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On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:54:53AM +0100, François Patte wrote:
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>  Le 12/03/2009 16:05, Paul W. Frields a écrit :
>  > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:27:40AM +1030, Tim wrote:
>  >> Sharpe, Sam J:
>  >>>> Add or edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and add this section:
>  >>>>
>  >>>> [greeter]
>  >>>> Browser=false
>  >>>>
>  >>>> Then restart gdm...
>  >> fred smith:
>  >>> This doesn't seem to work in F10. I remember seeing other posts on it,
>  >>> and the consensus was th at a lot of the configurability has been disabled,
>  >>> including the ability to control the font size (which on my eeepc is HUGE
>  >>> on the small screen).
>  >>>
>  >>> Allegedly, replacing it with the one from F9 solves the proglem, though
>  >>> I haven't tried that.
>  >> Well, I'm using Fedora 9, and nothing that I've tried stops that damn
>  >> user list appearing on GDM.  Neither does anything stop the inclusion of
>  >> names I want excluded.  I've even tried changing the background image,
>  >> and it ignores that instruction, too.
>  >>
>  >> I've got no kind words for the thing.  It's not configurable.  It's
> slow
>  >> to fire up, *much* slower than the GDM logon screen on Fedora 7.  Every
>  >> log on requires cursoring through the list, or typing the name, since it
>  >> NEVER starts with reselecting the same name that logged in previously,
>  >> nor does the list appear to be in any detectable sorting order (user ID,
>  >> user name, real name, nothing).
>  >>
>  >> I tried using XDM, instead, but it doesn't start something that Gnome
>  >> needs to run.  I don't want *anything* to do with KDE on my system, so
>  >> KDM's not getting a look in.
>  >>
>  >> Just a straight type in username and password box, as it used to be,
>  >> would suit me.
>  > 
>  > This should work fine:
>  > 
>  > $ su -               # enter root password at prompt
>  > $ GCONFSYS=$(gconftool-2 --get-default-source)
>  > $ gconftool-2 --config-source=$GCONFSYS --set
> /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list \
>  >   --type bool true
>  
>  It worked for me too on f10. 
Really! Didn't do anything visibly useful on my f10. Perhaps I should
try it agagian.
>  
>  Have you any other tips like this to change the language: I would like
>  the chooser in French, or the image which is quite nice when you use one
>  screen but become ugly when spread on two screens...
>  
>  I am wondering why there is not a more friendly way to configure all this..
>  
>  Thanks.
>  
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>  Université Paris Descartes
>  45, rue des Saints Pères
>  F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
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Le 12/03/2009 16:05, Paul W. Frields a écrit :
>  On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:27:40AM +1030, Tim wrote:
> > Sharpe, Sam J:
> >>> Add or edit /etc/gdm/custom.conf and add this section:
> >>>
> >>> [greeter]
> >>> Browser=false
> >>>
> >>> Then restart gdm...
> > fred smith:
> >> This doesn't seem to work in F10. I remember seeing other posts on it,
> >> and the consensus was th at a lot of the configurability has been disabled,
> >> including the ability to control the font size (which on my eeepc is HUGE
> >> on the small screen).
> >>
> >> Allegedly, replacing it with the one from F9 solves the proglem, though
> >> I haven't tried that.
> > Well, I'm using Fedora 9, and nothing that I've tried stops that damn
> > user list appearing on GDM.  Neither does anything stop the inclusion of
> > names I want excluded.  I've even tried changing the background image,
> > and it ignores that instruction, too.
> >
> > I've got no kind words for the thing.  It's not configurable.  It's slow
> > to fire up, *much* slower than the GDM logon screen on Fedora 7.  Every
> > log on requires cursoring through the list, or typing the name, since it
> > NEVER starts with reselecting the same name that logged in previously,
> > nor does the list appear to be in any detectable sorting order (user ID,
> > user name, real name, nothing).
> >
> > I tried using XDM, instead, but it doesn't start something that Gnome
> > needs to run.  I don't want *anything* to do with KDE on my system, so
> > KDM's not getting a look in.
> >
> > Just a straight type in username and password box, as it used to be,
> > would suit me.
>  
>  This should work fine:
>  
>  $ su -               # enter root password at prompt
>  $ GCONFSYS=$(gconftool-2 --get-default-source)
>  $ gconftool-2 --config-source=$GCONFSYS --set /apps/gdm/simple-greeter/disable_user_list
> \
>    --type bool true 
It worked for me too on f10.

Have you any other tips like this to change the language: I would like
the chooser in French, or the image which is quite nice when you use one
screen but become ugly when spread on two screens...

I am wondering why there is not a more friendly way to configure all this..

Thanks.

- --
François Patte
UFR de mathématiques et informatique
Université Paris Descartes
45, rue des Saints Pères
F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tél. [phone]
http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
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