I have no idea what is going on, but since my last batch of updates (about 2 days ago now), F16 has been crashing repeatedly. Often, this will happen when moving windows between workspaces, other times it will just happen randomly. Sometimes I am kicked out to the login screen, but most of the time I will just get a hard freeze forcing a physical reboot.
Anyone else had similar issues? Any workarounds?
// Chris
Clarification: the subject is of course not implying that Fedora is usually unstable, it is one of the most robust OS:s to date.
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Christopher Svanefalk < christopher.svanefalk@gmail.com> wrote:
I have no idea what is going on, but since my last batch of updates (about 2 days ago now), F16 has been crashing repeatedly. Often, this will happen when moving windows between workspaces, other times it will just happen randomly. Sometimes I am kicked out to the login screen, but most of the time I will just get a hard freeze forcing a physical reboot.
Anyone else had similar issues? Any workarounds?
// Chris
On Fri, 2012-02-17 at 20:34 +0100, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
Clarification: the subject is of course not implying that Fedora is usually unstable, it is one of the most robust OS:s to date.
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Christopher Svanefalk christopher.svanefalk@gmail.com wrote: I have no idea what is going on, but since my last batch of updates (about 2 days ago now), F16 has been crashing repeatedly. Often, this will happen when moving windows between workspaces, other times it will just happen randomly. Sometimes I am kicked out to the login screen, but most of the time I will just get a hard freeze forcing a physical reboot.
Anyone else had similar issues? Any workarounds? // Chris
XFCE has been rock solid on my two machines.
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 20:34:36 +0100 Christopher Svanefalk christopher.svanefalk@gmail.com wrote:
Clarification: the subject is of course not implying that Fedora is usually unstable, it is one of the most robust OS:s to date.
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Christopher Svanefalk < christopher.svanefalk@gmail.com> wrote:
I have no idea what is going on, but since my last batch of updates (about 2 days ago now), F16 has been crashing repeatedly. Often, this will happen when moving windows between workspaces, other times it will just happen randomly. Sometimes I am kicked out to the login screen, but most of the time I will just get a hard freeze forcing a physical reboot.
Anyone else had similar issues? Any workarounds?
Same here: earlier today, someone (can't recall who, and I did not save the message) mentioned on the ML that gtk3 is the culprit. Perhaps an update pushed recently may fix the problem. I hope so.
HTH, Ranjan
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:08:44 -0500 Terry Polzin foxec208@wowway.com wrote:
On Fri, 2012-02-17 at 20:34 +0100, Christopher Svanefalk wrote:
Clarification: the subject is of course not implying that Fedora is usually unstable, it is one of the most robust OS:s to date.
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Christopher Svanefalk christopher.svanefalk@gmail.com wrote: I have no idea what is going on, but since my last batch of updates (about 2 days ago now), F16 has been crashing repeatedly. Often, this will happen when moving windows between workspaces, other times it will just happen randomly. Sometimes I am kicked out to the login screen, but most of the time I will just get a hard freeze forcing a physical reboot.
Anyone else had similar issues? Any workarounds? // ChrisXFCE has been rock solid on my two machines.
Do you have gtk3 installed? If so, then that is not the culprit.
I do not use gnome, relying on LXDE. The trouble is that lots of rpms (conky, NetworkManager-gtk, etc) are made dependent on gtk3 or gnome-toolkits, so I have no choice but to pull this in.
Ranjan
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 21:23, Ranjan Maitra maitra@iastate.edu wrote:
The trouble is that lots of rpms (conky, NetworkManager-gtk, etc) are made dependent on gtk3 or gnome-toolkits, so I have no choice but to pull this in.
Are you sure about conky? I don't think conky requires gtk3.
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:22:44 +0100 suvayu ali <fatkasuvayu +linux@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 21:23, Ranjan Maitra maitra@iastate.edu wrote:
The trouble is that lots of rpms (conky, NetworkManager-gtk, etc) are made dependent on gtk3 or gnome-toolkits, so I have no choice but to pull this in.
Are you sure about conky? I don't think conky requires gtk3.
sudo yum erase gtk3 pulls out a lot of stuff, including eventually conky.....
sudo yum erase gtk3
Removing: gtk3 x86_64 3.2.3-1.fc16 Removing for dependencies: NetworkManager-gnome x86_64 1:0.9.2-1.fc16 NetworkManager-gtk x86_64 1:0.9.2-1.fc16 adwaita-gtk3-theme x86_64 3.2.1-2.fc16 audacious-libs x86_64 3.0.4-1.fc16 batti noarch 0.3.8-2.fc15 bluez x86_64 4.96-3.fc16 bluez-compat x86_64 4.96-3.fc16 bluez-hid2hci x86_64 4.96-3.fc16 cheese-libs x86_64 1:3.2.2-1.fc16 clutter-gtk x86_64 1.0.4-1.fc16 conky x86_64 1.8.1-2.fc15 control-center x86_64 1:3.2.2-1.fc16 eekboard x86_64 1.0.5-1.fc16 eekboard-libs x86_64 1.0.5-1.fc16 eekboard-python x86_64 1.0.5-1.fc16 firefox x86_64 10.0.1-1.fc16 gnome-bluetooth x86_64 1:3.2.2-1.fc16 gnome-bluetooth-libs x86_64 1:3.2.2-1.fc16 gnome-color-manager x86_64 3.2.2-1.fc16 gnome-desktop3 x86_64 3.2.1-2.fc16 gnome-keyring x86_64 3.2.1-3.fc16 gnome-keyring-pam x86_64 3.2.1-3.fc16 gnome-online-accounts x86_64 3.2.1-2.fc16 gnome-python2-gnomekeyring x86_64 2.32.0-5.fc16 gnome-settings-daemon x86_64 3.2.2-1.fc16 gnome-themes-standard x86_64 3.2.1-2.fc16 gtk3-devel x86_64 3.2.3-1.fc16 gtk3-immodule-xim x86_64 3.2.3-1.fc16 ibus x86_64 1.4.0-17.fc16
.....
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 01:46, Ranjan Maitra maitra@iastate.edu wrote:
Are you sure about conky? I don't think conky requires gtk3.
sudo yum erase gtk3 pulls out a lot of stuff, including eventually conky.....
sudo yum erase gtk3
Very weird, on second thought maybe its because you can run conky in windowed mode too.
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:13:38 +0100 suvayu ali <fatkasuvayu +linux@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 01:46, Ranjan Maitra maitra@iastate.edu wrote:
Are you sure about conky? I don't think conky requires gtk3.
sudo yum erase gtk3 pulls out a lot of stuff, including eventually conky.....
sudo yum erase gtk3
Very weird, on second thought maybe its because you can run conky in windowed mode too.
Or it could be that it is dependent on something else that depends on gtk3 by accident?
Ranjan
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 22:42, Ranjan Maitra maitra@iastate.edu wrote:
On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 21:13:38 +0100 suvayu ali <fatkasuvayu +linux@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 01:46, Ranjan Maitra maitra@iastate.edu wrote:
Are you sure about conky? I don't think conky requires gtk3.
sudo yum erase gtk3 pulls out a lot of stuff, including eventually conky.....
sudo yum erase gtk3
Very weird, on second thought maybe its because you can run conky in windowed mode too.
Or it could be that it is dependent on something else that depends on gtk3 by accident?
Doesn't look like it.
$ rpm -qR conky | grep -i gtk libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0()(64bit) $ rpm -q --whatprovides "libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0()(64bit)" gtk2-2.24.8-3.fc16.x86_64
From the other dependencies I couldn't see any obvious ones that could
pull in gtk3.
The weird world of dependencies! :D
Ranjan
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