Re: Release counter for F9

[Nicu Buculei]

Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 13:26 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > Nicu Buculei wrote:
> > > Jon Stanley wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:22 AM, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> > > > > A first thing would be, IMO, to define when we start counting. I see 
> > > > > two
> > > > >  possible scenarios: either from a certain number of days in advance (30
> > > > >  days sounds plausible) or from the Release Candidate.
> > > >
> > > > The problem with starting this far out is that we're still not
> > > > entirely sure if we're going to slip the release date or not, based
> > > > upon the slips that we've had so far in the schedule (we've lost about
> > > > 2 weeks to slips thus far).  We're trying like hell to release on 4/29
> > > > as planned, but there's a (not so) small chance that won't happen.  It
> > > > would look fairly bad to "turn back the clock" when/if we slip.
> > >
> > > This is why we probably should escalate this to the right level and get 
> > > an advice (as good as it could be made, we all know delays may happen 
> > > even in the last week) about the date.
> > >
> > > I believe ReleaseEngineering is the proper entity to ask about this, do 
> > > we have anyone here connected to it?
> >
> > CC'ing rel-eng.
>
> At this time we're not slipping.  However even if we did, we can just
> reset the counter back a little bit.  It's not really worse than having
> our release date change on the schedule page.  It certainly wouldn't be
> the first case of a computer progress timer going backwards...

So we can start the counter whenever we want. Just say a number and 
counter images will be produced starting from that day.

So far this is the only proposal for a counter image: 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners#head-ab3c9d92ea25a8b18ae3...

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[Rahul Sundaram]

Nicu Buculei wrote:
> So we can start the counter whenever we want. Just say a number and 
> counter images will be produced starting from that day.
>
> So far this is the only proposal for a counter image: 
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners#head-ab3c9d92ea25a8b18ae3...

Run with it then. 30 days starting today if you count release time in US.

Rahul

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[Nicu Buculei]

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Nicu Buculei wrote:
> > So we can start the counter whenever we want. Just say a number and 
> > counter images will be produced starting from that day.
> >
> > So far this is the only proposal for a counter image: 
> > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners#head-ab3c9d92ea25a8b18ae3...
>
> Run with it then. 30 days starting today if you count release time in US.

Here is a tarball with 30 images and the SVG source: 
http://nicubunu.fedorapeople.org/f9counter.tar.gz

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[Rahul Sundaram]

Nicu Buculei wrote:
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > Nicu Buculei wrote:
> > > So we can start the counter whenever we want. Just say a number and 
> > > counter images will be produced starting from that day.
> > >
> > > So far this is the only proposal for a counter image: 
> > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/PromoBanners#head-ab3c9d92ea25a8b18ae3...
> >
> > Run with it then. 30 days starting today if you count release time in US.
>
> Here is a tarball with 30 images and the SVG source: 
> http://nicubunu.fedorapeople.org/f9counter.tar.gz

Can somone please get this up and running? Possibly replace one of the 
existing banners like the RHM video introducing Paul.

Rahul

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[Nicu Buculei]

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Nicu Buculei wrote:
> > Here is a tarball with 30 images and the SVG source: 
> > http://nicubunu.fedorapeople.org/f9counter.tar.gz
>
> Can somone please get this up and running? Possibly replace one of the 
> existing banners like the RHM video introducing Paul.

I see people running their own, I got so far feed-back from translations 
in Portuguese, Romanian and French.
I think is not that good to have people running their own:
- if the release will be delayed, many of the counters will get out of sync;
- those are usually run in each site's timezone, so it will not be accurate;
- the banners may/may not link to the proper location (probably get-fedora);
- they are not easily embeddable (see the link below for an example) for 
everyone's website (usually server-side php).

PS: it seems other distros "stole" the idea and have a better run with 
it: http://jimmac.musichall.cz/log/?p=423

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[Nicu Buculei]

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Nicu Buculei wrote:
> > Here is a tarball with 30 images and the SVG source: 
> > http://nicubunu.fedorapeople.org/f9counter.tar.gz
>
> Can somone please get this up and running? Possibly replace one of the 
> existing banners like the RHM video introducing Paul.

If is is of any help, I got someone contributing, along with an Italian 
translation of the graphics, his JavaScript:

<script type="text/javascript">
document.write('<a href="http://fedoraproject.org/"><img 
src="path_to/fedora9-countdown-'+days+'.png" border="0" /></a>');
if (days < 0) {
document.write('<a href="http://fedoraproject.org/"><img 
src="path_to/fedora9-countdown-0.png" border="0" /></a>');
}
</script><a href="http://fedoraproject.org/"><img 
src="path_to/fedora9-countdown-25.png" border="0"></a>

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[Ricky Zhou]

On 2008-04-01 02:24:48 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> Here is a tarball with 30 images and the SVG source: 
> http://nicubunu.fedorapeople.org/f9counter.tar.gz

Nice!  Here's the test that I have so far:
http://fedora.riczho.dyndns.org/.  This is updated by python in the
templates, as well as a piece of javascript that people can embed in
their own websites (example on http://ricky.fedorapeople.org/ once the
updated script goes live).  Also, (we ran into this last year too) the
last image should be "1 day" as opposed to "1 days."

It'd also be nice to have a banner ready for after the counter runs out.
I mentioned this in #fedora-art, but if you/anybody has a moment, it
would probably just be very similar to the other counter images.

I'm working on getting translations for this.  The gettext + SVG idea is
out, because things like placement pretty much have to be done manually.  
I think we have transifex setup to accept SVG files, so I'll be emailing
fedora-trans-list to see how translating in inkscape works out :)

Thanks,
Ricky

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[Rahul Sundaram]

Ricky Zhou wrote:
> Nice!  Here's the test that I have so far:
> http://fedora.riczho.dyndns.org/.  This is updated by python in the
> templates, as well as a piece of javascript that people can embed in
> their own websites

You should probably add a small link under the image that leads people 
to instructions on how to add a counter to their own website or instead 
of linking to the wiki schedule, link to a page containing the 
instructions on a static page which also mentions the release date and 
then references the wiki schedule. Thanks for working on this.

Rahul

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[Ricky Zhou]

On 2008-04-07 01:04:16 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> You should probably add a small link under the image that leads people to 
> instructions on how to add a counter to their own website or instead of 
> linking to the wiki schedule, link to a page containing the instructions on 
> a static page which also mentions the release date and then references the 
> wiki schedule. Thanks for working on this.

How's this: http://fedoraproject.org/en/counter

Once translations start rolling in, I'll have to modify it to allow
choosing a language (I already have a pretty good idea of how we can do
it).

Thanks,
Ricky

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[Rahul Sundaram]

Ricky Zhou wrote:
> On 2008-04-07 01:04:16 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > You should probably add a small link under the image that leads people to 
> > instructions on how to add a counter to their own website or instead of 
> > linking to the wiki schedule, link to a page containing the instructions on 
> > a static page which also mentions the release date and then references the 
> > wiki schedule. Thanks for working on this.
>
> How's this: http://fedoraproject.org/en/counter
>
> Once translations start rolling in, I'll have to modify it to allow
> choosing a language (I already have a pretty good idea of how we can do
> it).

This is good. I have a few minor suggestions

* Make the text bold or something. The text is not highlighted well 
beneath the image and it is not clear that it is a link

* Reduce the font size or line wrap the java script code. It runs off 
the screen atleast in my system.

* You probably can skip the example image since there is already one 
visible in the top left.

Rahul

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[Nicu Buculei]

Ricky Zhou wrote:
> How's this: http://fedoraproject.org/en/counter
>
> Once translations start rolling in, I'll have to modify it to allow
> choosing a language (I already have a pretty good idea of how we can do
> it).

A first round of rendered translations (all that was available in git):
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/de.tar.gz
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/fi.tar.gz
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/he.tar.gz
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/is.tar.gz
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/pt_BR.tar.gz
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/sk.tar.gz
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/sr.tar.gz

And my own:
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/ro.tar.gz

A French translation I received on my blog:
http://www.parois.net/ng/f9counter.tar.bz2

I also received a link to an Italian version, but that was removed in 
the meantime by its author and a Portuguese one which i believe is 
identical with pt_BR.

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[Diego Búrigo Zacarão]

Hello, Nicu.

2008/4/7, Nicu Buculei :
> http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/pt_BR.tar.gz
>  http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/sk.tar.gz

Just a note:
For pt_BR version on 0 and 1 days, the banner should be:
"Será lançado em 0 dia."
"Será lançado em 1 dia."

Instead "dias".

Another suggestion for the zero-day should be: "released in some hours"
In pt_BR: "Será lançado em algumas horas"

Thanks

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[Nicu Buculei]

Nicu Buculei wrote:
> Ricky Zhou wrote:
> > How's this: http://fedoraproject.org/en/counter
> >
> > Once translations start rolling in, I'll have to modify it to allow
> > choosing a language (I already have a pretty good idea of how we can do
> > it).

Another translation rendered:
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/ja.tar.gz

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[Nicu Buculei]

Nicu Buculei wrote:
> Ricky Zhou wrote:
> > How's this: http://fedoraproject.org/en/counter
> >
> > Once translations start rolling in, I'll have to modify it to allow
> > choosing a language (I already have a pretty good idea of how we can do
> > it).

Yet another translation rendered:
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/bal.tar.gz

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[Nicu Buculei]

Nicu Buculei wrote:
> Ricky Zhou wrote:
> > How's this: http://fedoraproject.org/en/counter
> >
> > Once translations start rolling in, I'll have to modify it to allow
> > choosing a language (I already have a pretty good idea of how we can do
> > it).

One more translation rendered:
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/hu.tar.gz

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[Nicu Buculei]

Nicu Buculei wrote:
> Ricky Zhou wrote:
> > How's this: http://fedoraproject.org/en/counter
> >
> > Once translations start rolling in, I'll have to modify it to allow
> > choosing a language (I already have a pretty good idea of how we can do
> > it).

Here is the Polish translation for the counter: 
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/pl.tar.gz

And due to the counter reset, some languages were uncovered (from day 26 
to 23), here are the missing images:
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/reset.tar.gz

Release counter for F9

[Nicu Buculei]

Nicu Buculei wrote:
> Ricky Zhou wrote:
> > How's this: http://fedoraproject.org/en/counter
> >
> > Once translations start rolling in, I'll have to modify it to allow
> > choosing a language (I already have a pretty good idea of how we can do
> > it).

Here is the Polish translation for the counter:
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/pl.tar.gz

And due to the counter reset, some languages were uncovered (from day 26
to 23), here are the missing images:
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/reset.tar.gz

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[Ricky Zhou]

On 2008-04-18 04:46:32 PM, Nicu Buculei wrote:
> Here is the Polish translation for the counter:
> http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/pl.tar.gz
>
> And due to the counter reset, some languages were uncovered (from day 26
> to 23), here are the missing images:
> http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/reset.tar.gz

Wow, you're fast :)  I was just about to start researching how to
manually generate some of them :)  They're  both added now and should
show up soon.

Thanks!
Ricky

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[Toshio Kuratomi]

Nicu Buculei wrote:
> And due to the counter reset, some languages were uncovered (from day 26
> to 23), here are the missing images:
> http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/reset.tar.gz

Thanks Nicu!

-Toshio

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[Mostafa Daneshvar]

On Jumee 30 Farvardin 1387 19:50:11 Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> Nicu Buculei wrote:
> > And due to the counter reset, some languages were uncovered (from day 26
> > to 23), here are the missing images:
> > http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/reset.tar.gz
>
> Thanks Nicu!
>
> -Toshio

Thank you very much Nicu

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[Nicu Buculei]

Nicu Buculei wrote:
> Ricky Zhou wrote:
> > How's this: http://fedoraproject.org/en/counter
> >
> > Once translations start rolling in, I'll have to modify it to allow
> > choosing a language (I already have a pretty good idea of how we can do
> > it).

The Spanish translation for the counter:
http://fedora.nicubunu.ro/f9countdown/es.tar.gz

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[Karsten Wade]

On Sun, 2008-04-06 at 16:55 -0400, Ricky Zhou wrote:
> On 2008-04-07 01:04:16 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > You should probably add a small link under the image that leads people to 
> > instructions on how to add a counter to their own website or instead of 
> > linking to the wiki schedule, link to a page containing the instructions on 
> > a static page which also mentions the release date and then references the 
> > wiki schedule. Thanks for working on this.
>
> How's this: http://fedoraproject.org/en/counter

Looks great here:

http://iquaid.org/

Couldn't resist. :)

+1 about linking to a static schedule page, fwiw.

- Karsten

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[Ricky Zhou]

On 2008-04-06 03:07:34 PM, Ricky Zhou wrote:
> I'm working on getting translations for this.  The gettext + SVG idea is
> out, because things like placement pretty much have to be done manually.  
> I think we have transifex setup to accept SVG files, so I'll be emailing
> fedora-trans-list to see how translating in inkscape works out :)

Update: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-April/msg00063.html

Nicu, if you're going to be generating all of the PNGs, then the SVG
files should be at
http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=fedora-web.git;a=tree;f=fedoraproject.org....
I'm still not 100% sure how to handle different translation for "1 day"
vs. "1 days", but we might end up just handling those manually.  I
should have the javascript ready to display these translations ready
very soon.

Thanks,
Ricky