devel-announce November 2010

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libsigsegv-2.9 update, abi bump
by Rex Dieter 27 Nov '10

27 Nov '10

I'm planning a libsigsegv-2.9 (rawhide) update relatively soon which includes an abi change. According to repquery, only the following packages should be affected: clisp gnu-smalltalk (I'll help take care of these requisite rebuilds) -- Rex

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[HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide
by Lennart Poettering 23 Nov '10

23 Nov '10

Heya! I hereby want to let everybody know that in the next days I will turn on /var/run and /var/lock on tmpfs on Rawhide/F15. This is in accordance with the following accepted F15 feature: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/var-run-tmpfs My current tests indicate that we will not run into too much trouble with this and most things should continue to work just fine. However, of course I run only a small subset of packages of the fedora archive on my machine. So here's what might happen and which might need fixing over the next weeks in various packages: - Not all packages might be able to create their directory in /var/run on start-up. Since SUSE and Ubuntu have already been shipping systems with tmpfs on /var/run and /var/lock for quite a while I expect the number of packages that are incapable of doing this to be very small. If your software nonetheless fails witht this issue, then there are two options to fix this: a) patch the program in question, so that it is able to recreate the directories in /var/run, or b) ship a simple drop-in file for /etc/tmpfiles.d/ which recreates these directories on boot. (see below) - There might be permission problems, since the rpms might have set different perms on the subdirs of /var/run than the software itself might apply when starting up. In this case, a drop-in file in /etc/tmpfiles.d/ might help. (see below) - The SELinux policy might trigger AVCs and disallow creation of the dirs in question. In this case Dan will be of help of course, so make sure to file a bug. And I guess I don't need to mention this but temporarily falling back to permissive mode is a short-term workaround for this. - In some cases daemons might want to create more than one file/dir below /var/run which are supposed to be labelled differently. In this case the daemon can either be modified to fix its labels up itself, or a drop-in file in /etc/tmpfiles.d/ might help (see below). - Many .spec files currently own subdirs of /var/run. These need to be updated to %ghost those dirs only, so that the automatic removal of these files/dirs on boot doesnt cause rpm to complain. The list of packages which own such files/subdir you find on the aforementioned feature page. I will mass-file bugs against these packages later tonight, requesting the %ghosting of these entries. For more information on the %ghost directive in .spec files see this page: http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm-snapshot/s1-rpm-inside-files-list-directives.htm… Action items: a) Lennart will mass-file bugs regarding %ghost usage tonight b) Lennart will switch on /var/run and /var/lock on tmpfs either tomorrow or the day after tomorrow c) YOU need to edit your .spec file and place a %ghost where appropriate. c) YOU need to test if you package still works, and if necessary file AVC bugs, add an /etc/tmpfiles.d drop-in file to your program, or patch it so that it is able to recreate these directories beneath /var/run on its own. On /etc/tmpfiles.d: This is a new feature of systemd, but which is apparently very much liked by people outside of systemd, so this might actually find adoption even on systems which will not adopt systemd any time soon, since it actually is not specific at all to systemd. By dropping a simple configuration file in /etc/tmpfiles.d you can ensure that volatile files and directories are: a) created, deleted or emptied at boot b) their permissions/ownership fixed c) its directory contents cleaned up in regular intervals (a la tmpwatch) and d) it is properly relabeled at boot. As an example, here's how such a file might look like for the screen package (name it /etc/tmpfiles.d/screen.conf): <snip> d /var/run/screens 1777 root root 10d d /var/run/uscreens 0755 root root 10d12h </snip> This encodes that two directories are created under the listed names, with automatic clean up after 10 days resp. 10 days and 12h. For more details consult the man page: http://0pointer.de/public/systemd-man/tmpfiles.d.html Thank you for your attention! Lennart -- Lennart Poettering - Red Hat, Inc.

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Fedora Board, FESCo & FAmSCo Elections - Voting Information
by Robyn Bergeron 22 Nov '10

22 Nov '10

Greetings, The elections for the Fedora Board, Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo), and the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee (FAmSCo) began at 0000 UTC on 20th November 2010, and are scheduled to run until 23:59 UTC on 28th November 2010. (Please refer to a UTC time zone converter, such as http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html if you are unsure of your time zone's relation to UTC.) All groups have chosen to use the Range Voting method (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_voting) Ballots may be cast on the Fedora Elections System at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting. If this is the first time you've used the voting system, please refer to the Fedora Elections Guide, currently located at http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/documents/elections-guide. To read more about the candidates, please refer to each group's nomination pages: * FAmSCo: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_2010_nominations * Fedora Project Board: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Elections/Nominations * FESCo: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Development/SteeringCommittee/Nominations For more general information about the election, as well as finding links for reading candidate answers to questionnaires and IRC town hall transcripts, please refer to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections. Please remember to cast your vote! Thanks, Robyn

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Fedora Board Election IRC Town Hall transcript
by Toshio Kuratomi 19 Nov '10

19 Nov '10

The Fedora Board Town Hall happened today at 15:00 UTC. The transcript of the townhall is at the following URL: Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2010-11-19/board-townhall.… Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2010-11-19/board-townhall.… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2010-11-19/board-townhall.… Thanks to the candidates for answering questions and thanks to all the audience members for the insightful questions. -Toshio

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FESCo Election IRC Town Hall (2010-11-18 1500UTC)
by Kyle McMartin 18 Nov '10

18 Nov '10

Hi folks, Just announcing that there'll be an IRC town hall with the FESCo election candidates on Thursday, October 18th, at 1500UTC (1000 US/Eastern.) You can join #fedora-townhall-public to ask questions of the moderators, which will be posed and answered by the candidates in #fedora-townhall. More information is available here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections#How_to_Join A summary and the irc log will be posted and linked from the wiki after the discussion, if you're unable to watch it live. Thanks in advance for your interest, Kyle PS: I'd like a volunteer to help me moderate the questions, or at least, help pick out the really good ones for our limited time (1 hr.) If you'd like to help out, please let me know.

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[Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines
by Tom Callaway 17 Nov '10

17 Nov '10

Here are the list of this week's changes to the Fedora Packaging Guidelines: The FPC has taken over evaluating exceptions to the Bundled Library Guidelines. A list of standard questions to be answered to give the FPC information on whether to grant exceptions has been added to the Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:No_Bundled_Libraries#Standard_ques… --- An exception was added to the Guidelines concerning use of %{_sourcedir}, specifically, when there is an available list of supplementary source files, it is permissible to use this list in conjunction with %{sourcedir} to simplify operations on those supplementary source files. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:RPM_Source_Dir --- rpm %post and %postun scripts have been added for the following important pieces of GNOME3 technology: GSettings, gdk-pixbuf loaders, GTK3 modules, and GIO modules: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:ScriptletSnippets#GSettings_Schema https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:ScriptletSnippets#gdk- pixbuf_loaders https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:ScriptletSnippets#GTK.2B_modules https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:ScriptletSnippets#GIO_modules --- These guidelines (and changes) were approved by the Fedora Packaging Committee (FPC). Many thanks to Kevin Kofler, Matthias Clasen, FESCo and all of the members of the FPC, for assisting in drafting, refining, and passing these guidelines. As a reminder: The Fedora Packaging Guidelines are living documents! If you find something missing, incorrect, or in need of revision, you can suggest a draft change. The procedure for this is documented here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Committee#GuidelineChangeProcedure Thanks, ~spot

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[Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines
by Tom Callaway 17 Nov '10

17 Nov '10

Here are the list of recent changes to the Fedora Packaging Guidelines: D Packaging Guidelines have been added: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:D --- The Java Packaging Guidelines have been revised: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Java Diff: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Packaging%3AJava&diff=206526&ol… --- The Guideline that explains how and when to require base packages has been substantially revised. The old language focused on -devel packages and left other subpackages to the imagination of the reader. The update has more generic advice and uses -devel and -libs packages as examples. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#RequiringBasePackage --- The perl guidelines have been updated with additional examples and clarifications. Specifically, the Directory ownership, requires and provides, and testing sections have seen wording changes: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Perl --- A guideline was added explaining the %pretrans scriptlet and requiring that if used it must be written in Lua. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#The_.25pretrans_scriptl… --- A note was added about additional checks obtained by running rpmlint on installed packages. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#Use_rpmlint --- These guidelines (and changes) were approved by the Fedora Packaging Committee (FPC). Many thanks to Alexander Kurtakov, Jonathan Mercier, Stanislav Ochotnicky and all of the members of the FPC, for assisting in drafting, refining, and passing these guidelines. As a reminder: The Fedora Packaging Guidelines are living documents! If you find something missing, incorrect, or in need of revision, you can suggest a draft change. The procedure for this is documented here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Committee#GuidelineChangeProcedure Thanks, ~spot

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Welcoming New Fedora Program Manager Robyn Bergeron
by John Poelstra 15 Nov '10

15 Nov '10

Jared Smith made an announcement in his blog [1] about some upcoming personnel changes in Fedora. I wanted to make a specific announcement to the Fedora lists as well. Through the end of 2010 and a little bit beyond, I will be working along side Robyn Bergeron to transition my official Fedora responsibilities to her. This will include getting the Fedora 15 team schedules into shape, feature wrangling, bugzilla maintenance, and any number of other things. Robyn and I are committed to making this transition as smooth, complete and timely as we can, and expect the transition to be completed before the Fedora 15 feature submission deadline. Said a different way, if you've already been working with me on something, I'll continue to help you with it. For all new topics, please contact Robyn directly and we will work together as necessary to get them done. One of the luxuries of my position was keeping tabs on most of the teams in Fedora via their mailing lists. I won't have as much time for this going forward so I'll be scaling back the number of mailing lists I watch and contribute to. If I posted to a list in the past, please don't assume I'll automatically see your message there in the future. Also please don't hesitate to contact me directly if you feel the need to do so. Fedora, it's been a great ride. We've made great progress in the past three years and I'm thankful you let me be a part of it. Here's to wishing only the best to Robyn in her new role serving the Fedora community! John p.s. I'm still looking forward to and rooting for an on time Fedora 15 release. :) [1] http://www.jaredsmith.net/2010/11/10/changing-of-the-seasons/

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Reminder: Fedora 12 end of life on 2010-12-02
by Kevin Fenzi 10 Nov '10

10 Nov '10

Greetings. This is a reminder email about the end of life process for Fedora 12. Fedora 12 will reach end of life on 2010-12-02, and no further updates will be pushed out after that time. Additionally, with the recent release of Fedora 14, no new packages will be added to the Fedora 12 collection. Please see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DistributionUpgrades for more information on upgrading from Fedora 12 to a newer release. kevin

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