devel-announce February 2010

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Feodra 13 Alpha slip by one week
by Jesse Keating 25 Feb '10

25 Feb '10

Today at the go / no-go meeting[1] we decided to slip the Alpha by one week. This slip is needed to verify blocker bug fixes and validate new builds of software necessary to fix those bugs. We are confident that the fixes we have are valid, however we do not have enough time to prove them valid. We will spend the next few days doing that validation. In the mean time builds will continue to be pushed to updates-testing for 13, and even to 13 stable, however critical path packages might not be pushed unless they are fixing a release blocking issue. Once we've validated all the fixes we will do more frequent pushes to 13 stable. At this time we are not adjusting later milestone dates, as with no frozen rawhide we are not taking away any developer time. [1]: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-02-25/fedora-meeting.2… -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating

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Fedora 13 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting RESCHEDULED: 2010-02-25 @ 19:00 UTC (14:00 EST)
by Adam Williamson 24 Feb '10

24 Feb '10

IMPORTANT NOTE: we are rescheduling the Go/No-Go meeting for Fedora 13 Alpha. Previously scheduled for 2010-02-25 01:00 UTC, it is now scheduled for 2010-02-25 19:00 UTC (14:00 EST, 11:00 PST). This delay is to give sufficient time for the QA team to test the expected RC3 build. The original announcement, with the new time, is reproduced below for reference. Join us on irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting for this important meeting. Thursday, February 25, 2010 @ 19:00 UTC (14:00 EST). "Before each public release Development, QA, and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting." "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team." For more details about this important meeting see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Engineering_Readiness_Meetings -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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Call for F13 release slogan suggestions
by Robyn Bergeron 23 Feb '10

23 Feb '10

Greetings Friends, We need a slogan for the F13 release. It will be chosen one week from now, on 3/2. A release slogan is a short call-to-action that fits the artwork theme from Design, found at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_slogan#Themes. (F12's slogan was "Unite.") If you are interested in suggesting ideas for the release slogan, please take a look at the Release Slogan SOP, and the criteria for selection, at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_slogan_SOP. The slogan must be: * short (1-3 words) * a call to action * positive It should reinforce that Fedora helps the user achieve something great. It should also reflect some of ideas and themes found in the release artwork, and, if possible, also touch upon the Four Foundations (http://https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Foundations) Please put your slogan ideas here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_slogan#New_slogan_ideas The deadline for submissions is Tuesday 3/2 at 20:00 UTC, which is our next Marketing meeting (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings) We'll be discussing submissions there, and then the FPL, Mo Duffy, and the Marketing team lead will take that input and select the final slogan on 3/2, following the marketing meeting. Let me know if you have any questions, comments, or concerns -- and let the wiki table know if you have any ideas! Cheers, Robyn

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Outage: NFS Crash - 2010-02-23 18:30 UTC
by Mike McGrath 23 Feb '10

23 Feb '10

There was an outage starting at 2010-02-23 18:30 UTC, which will lasted about 15 minutes. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2010-02-23 18:30 UTC' Reason for outage: The nfs server rebooted. Still looking at why. Unfortunately LOTS of stuff was going on, a compose, two mashes and possible other things were hitting the server at that time (might have contributed to the crash) If you had builds and things fail during that time, please resubmit. Affected Services: Buildsystem - http://koji.fedoraproject.org/ Unaffected Services: BFO - http://boot.fedoraproject.org/ Bodhi - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ CVS / Source Control DNS - ns1.fedoraproject.org, ns2.fedoraproject.org Docs - http://docs.fedoraproject.org/ Email system Fedora Account System - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/ Fedora Community - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/ Fedora Hosted - https://fedorahosted.org/ Fedora People - http://fedorapeople.org/ Fedora Talk - http://talk.fedoraproject.org/ Main Website - http://fedoraproject.org/ Mirror List - https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/ Mirror Manager - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mirrormanager/ Package Database - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/ Smolt - http://smolts.org/ Spins - http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ Start - http://start.fedoraproject.org/ Torrent - http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ Translation Services - http://translate.fedoraproject.org/ Wiki - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ Ticket Link: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1999 Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage.

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Fedora 13 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting :: 2010-02-25 @ 1 AM UTC (2010-02-24 @ 20:00 EST)
by John Poelstra 22 Feb '10

22 Feb '10

Join us on irc.freenode.net #fedora-meeting for this important meeting. Thursday, February 25, 2010 @ 1 AM UTC (20:00 EST, Wednesday, February 24, 2010) "Before each public release Development, QA, and Release Engineering meet to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release. This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting." "Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the QA Team." For more details about this important meeting see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Engineering_Readiness_Meetings

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Read this if your package BuildRequires qt(4)-devel!!!
by Kevin Kofler 21 Feb '10

21 Feb '10

Hi, for all maintainers of packages which BuildRequire qt4-devel (or qt-devel, but the versioned virtual Provides is preferred): please, when you plan to push updates for your packages, ALWAYS CHECK what version of Qt your package got built against and DO NOT PUSH your update to stable before that version of Qt goes stable! A package built against Qt 4.6 WILL NOT WORK AT ALL with Qt 4.5!!! (This is always the case, Qt is backwards- but not forwards- compatible.) Currently, buildroot overrides for Qt 4.6 are in effect (intermittently, as Qt 4.6 can and will be untagged from the buildroot on request to build updates which need to go out soon, but we need it in the buildroot to build anything related to KDE 4.4), so a package built now CANNOT go to stable before the big Qt 4.6 / KDE 4.4 / SIP 4.10 update does. If you need to push an urgent update, please ask Rex Dieter (rdieter on Freenode IRC) or another rel-eng member to get the stuff out of the buildroot for a moment, and follow the instructions given on IRC. If your update is not urgent, I recommend just not pushing it out to stable before the big Qt/KDE/SIP update. NOT FOLLOWING THOSE INSTRUCTIONS WILL LEAD TO YOUR PACKAGE BEING BROKEN IN THE STABLE UPDATES!!! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! I am sorry if I sound abrasive, but we already had at least 2 packages which were broken due to this issue (just for 4.6, there were more such issues with previous upgrades) and it looks like our previous devel-announce message was not clear enough. Please double-check before you hit that "push to stable" button! Thanks in advance. We will look into using some less dangerous process (special build tags?) for future Qt updates as this is just not working, but for now please be careful. Kevin Kofler

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Call for Participation - Fedora 13 Talking Points
by Robyn Bergeron 19 Feb '10

19 Feb '10

Talking points are key highlights of the new release. They should be compelling, but they will not necessarily be comprehensive. There are different types of talking points for different types of people: general desktop users/everyone, developers, and sysadmins. For the Fedora 13 cycle, we will also have talking points to address some of the Spins. They are meant to provide a short, effective answer to the question, "What cool stuff is in the latest release of Fedora?" Each cycle, the Marketing team compiles a short list of approximately three talking points for each of these audiences for the upcoming release. For Fedora 13, they're found here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Talking_Points If you have a talking point that you feel meets the criteria found on the talking points SOP page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talking_points_SOP, add it to the the table on the F13 page with supporting information. Please make your contributions and changes on the wiki page, so that the Marketing team can efficiently capture and consider your input. The Marketing team will make final adjustments to the list of talking points at their meeting on February 23, which will be announced on the marketing list and is open to everyone. If you are interested in attending the meeting, the agenda, location, and time details can be found at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings. Following the meeting, the finalized list of talking points will be announced, and posted to https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Talking_Points. We welcome you to participate in the process! Cheers, -Robyn

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Fedora 13 has been branched!!
by Jesse Keating 16 Feb '10

16 Feb '10

That's right folks, we are now branched for Fedora 13. What does this mean to you? Well that depends on who "you" are, here are some "you"s that we wrote about: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_frozen_rawhide_announce_plan#Use_Cases The real take away here is explained at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Branch_Freeze_Policy The upshot is that if you want to get a build into Fedora 13, you gotta build from F-13/ and you gotta put it in bodhi. The good news is that if your package isn't critical path, it's just like any other update in bodhi, you decide when it goes stable. If it's critical path, releng or QA will have to give it karma, but that means somebody will look at it! (We're working on ways to make it more visible to the user that your package is critical path). There are new paths on the mirrors too: pub/fedora/linux/development/rawhide <-- this is the new home of rawhide. Builds from devel/ go here. This is now the F-14 development ground. pub/fedora/linux/development/13 <-- this is the branched Fedora 13. Builds from F-13/ that make it through bodhi as stable show up here. This is what we'll use to make the Alpha, Beta, Final release and all the snapshots in between and the nightly attempt at instllable images. pub/fedora/linux/updates/testing/13 <-- this is where the testing updates go for the branched 13. Test 'em here before they go to stable. For a better picture, see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_frozen_rawhide_announce_plan#Tree.2FRepo_… I have disabled the rsync part of the rawhide compose process so that I can do things by hand tomorrow and ensure we don't screw up the mirrors, so you'll see a delay in things. We'll also do the branched tree compose by hand as well and then sync the output at the same time to preserve hardlinks. It'll be a fun day! Hop by #fedora-devel if you've got questions and somebody will try to help you. Welcome to the world of No Frozen Rawhide!!! -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating

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CVS Outage Notification - 2010-02-17 00:00 UTC
by Jesse Keating 16 Feb '10

16 Feb '10

There will be a CVS outage starting at 2010-02-17 00:00 UTC, which will last approximately 3 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2010-02-17 00:00 UTC' Affected Services: CVS / Source Control Unaffected Services: Everything else. Reason for Outage: The CVS server will not accept connections so that we can mass-branch for Fedora 13. Contact Information: Please join #fedora-admin in irc.freenode.net or respond to this email to track the status of this outage. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating

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New packaging policy: privilege escalation policy
by Adam Williamson 16 Feb '10

16 Feb '10

This is to announce that the privilege escalation policy which has been under discussion and revision in the QA and development groups, and in FESCo, for the last few weeks has been approved at today's FESCo meeting[1]. The policy can be found here for now: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Privilege_escalation_policy Please take it into account in future packaging work. I believe the policy should be referenced in the packaging guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines and should be renamed to: Packaging:Privilege_escalation_policy However, I do not have the privileges to perform either of these actions. If someone with the appropriate privileges could do these for me, it would be appreciated. [1] http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-02-16/fesco.2010-02-16… -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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