Fedora India : Meet on 20th Sunday? 1130 AM IST?

[Ankur Sinha]

hi,

We are trying to hold regular meetings every fortnight. The last was on
the 6th of Dec and didn't see much participation. 

Please be there on the 20th at 1130AM for another fedora-india meeting
on #fedora at Freenode.

Agenda:

- New folks on the team can introduce themselves
- Questions/queries to be discussed.
- If there are people interested in learning RPM packaging, I could take
a quick hands on session for font packages to get them started (like
mether had done a year or so ago to get me started ;) )
We can post the logs to our blogs etc. to help other people as well.
- Any more people interested in taking fedora-india specific sessions, (even marketing
etc)?
- If there are people who'd like guidance on how to contribute, they
should use this opportunity.


I request folks who are already contributors (and pats of various teams)to be present to
help the
newbies (hiemanshu, mbuf, etc). (Please also put your hand up if you'd
like to take a mini session)

I'd request newbies to *please* be present and not to let this chance go
waste. 

I'd also like to know what you rates you folks pay for getting media
mass pressed. I enquired at a site and have been given 27/dvd for 500
copies and 32/dvd for 300 copies[1]. Comments?

Please add more to the agenda.

REMINDER : folks whose blogs are not yet on the planet, please add them
asap[2]

regards,
Ankur

PS - I've already discussed the hands on with Shakti briefly. I'm
sticking to fedora-india because a session on classrooms will require a
lot of depth. This hands on is just intended as a quick starter. 

[1] http://ankursinha.fedorapeople.org/Ankur%20Sinha%2016.12.09.doc
[2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_Fedora_Planet

[sankarshan]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Ankur Sinha <sanjay.ankur(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:

>  We are trying to hold regular meetings every fortnight. The last was
> on
>  the 6th of Dec and didn't see much participation.
>
>  Please be there on the 20th at 1130AM for another fedora-india meeting
>  on #fedora at Freenode. 
Ankur, thanks for leading this.

>  Agenda:
>
>  - New folks on the team can introduce themselves 
With respect to the above, is it possible to include an item which
would allow the first time packagers or, those who have packages under
review (but pending for long) to allow others to help them out ?

>  - Questions/queries to be discussed.
>  - If there are people interested in learning RPM packaging, I could take
>  a quick hands on session for font packages to get them started (like
>  mether had done a year or so ago to get me started ;) ) 
I'd request that this be undertaken separately.

[snip]

>  I'd also like to know what you rates you folks pay for getting
> media
>  mass pressed. I enquired at a site and have been given 27/dvd for 500
>  copies and 32/dvd for 300 copies[1]. Comments? 
Would you like to elaborate on the above please ? What is the need to
mass produce media ?


-- 
sankarshan mukhopadhyay
<http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog>

[Ankur Sinha]

On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 10:46 +0530, sankarshan wrote:
>  On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Ankur Sinha
> <sanjay.ankur(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  
>  > We are trying to hold regular meetings every fortnight. The last was on
>  > the 6th of Dec and didn't see much participation.
>  >
>  > Please be there on the 20th at 1130AM for another fedora-india meeting
>  > on #fedora at Freenode.
>  
>  Ankur, thanks for leading this.
>  
>  > Agenda:
>  >
>  > - New folks on the team can introduce themselves
>  
>  With respect to the above, is it possible to include an item which
>  would allow the first time packagers or, those who have packages under
>  review (but pending for long) to allow others to help them out ? 
Yeah, sounds good. Folks, please propose ideas for this?

>  
>  > - Questions/queries to be discussed.
>  > - If there are people interested in learning RPM packaging, I could take
>  > a quick hands on session for font packages to get them started (like
>  > mether had done a year or so ago to get me started ;) )
>  
>  I'd request that this be undertaken separately. 
<snip>
Okay, We'll take this off the agenda and schedule it at another time at
a dedicated session.

>  
>  [snip]
>  
>  > I'd also like to know what you rates you folks pay for getting media
>  > mass pressed. I enquired at a site and have been given 27/dvd for 500
>  > copies and 32/dvd for 300 copies[1]. Comments?
>  
>  Would you like to elaborate on the above please ? What is the need to
>  mass produce media ?
>  
>   
I had just expected it to be cheaper. My experiences with burning DVDs
on my laptop result in a lot of wastage while also taking a lot of my
time. The DVDs I burn and send do not have the fedora DVD label on them
(the labels etc give a more "official" look to the mailed media).
Instead they have a sick looking moserbaer or sony top with a "fedora
$release $arch dvd" written using a marker. I was just looking around. I
had thought that ambassadors in neighbouring regions could get media
mass burnt collectively, reducing costs (since cost/dvd is inversly
proportional to number of dvds ordered). I want to have some copies of
Fedora media and the release notes at each hostel's "checkin/reception".
There are 17hostels at college, with about 15-20 copies at each, plus
the freemedia requests and (install fests) I could service, comes to
about 400 DVDs. It is a thought stream which doesn't look viable
currently. The idea is to make fedora media available more freely at
college, to such an extent that folks don't need to request media, just
pick and install. I'll stick to copies of the release notes or something
similiar for the time being.

If someone has better media producing rates, please let the list know.

further reading ;) [1]

regards,
Ankur

[1]
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/private/fedora-freemedia-list/2009-Decembe...

[Shakthi Kannan]

Hi,

--- On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Ankur Sinha
<sanjay.ankur(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
| The last was on the 6th of Dec and didn't see much participation.
\--

There are good days and bad days. It will take time for things to
change. So, be patient.

---
| Please be there on the 20th at 1130AM for another fedora-india meeting
| on #fedora at Freenode.
\--

Yes, good.

For Fedora packaging, you can also look into my presentation that
briefly addresses the .spec file and the tools and options used:
http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/packaging-red-hot-pane...

An old IRC log for the presentation is available at:
http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/irclogs/2009/2009-07-02_mbuf_packagi...

The sources are available at:
http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/packaging-red-hot-pane...

Simple workflow steps are available at:
http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/howtos/packaging-rpm-workflow.html

---
| Agenda:
|
\--

Add these to the agenda:

- We will need to hear the experiences of our most recent Fedora
packager, Arun SAG, a.k.a "zer0c00l".
- Share experiences from people running F12.

SK

-- 
Shakthi Kannan
http://www.shakthimaan.com

[Arun SAG]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Shakthi Kannan <shakthimaan(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote:

>  > - We will need to hear the experiences of our most recent Fedora
>  > packager, Arun SAG, a.k.a "zer0c00l".
>
>  
I am happy to share my experiences :-) , if it is  added to the agenda . I
will be there by 12 (10 -12 power cut here :( )

Thanks
-- 
Arun S.A.G

[Ankur Sinha]

On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 12:33 +0530, Arun SAG wrote:
>  
>  
>  On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Shakthi Kannan
>  <shakthimaan(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>          
>          > - We will need to hear the experiences of our most recent
>          Fedora
>          > packager, Arun SAG, a.k.a "zer0c00l".
>          
>  
>  I am happy to share my experiences :-) , if it is  added to the
>  agenda . I will be there by 12 (10 -12 power cut here :( )
>  
>  Thanks
>  -- 
>  Arun S.A.G 
Please add it to the agenda yourself ;)
We can have the meeting at 12. I dont think shifting it by an hour is a
problem. 

regards,
Ankur

[Rahul Sundaram]

On 12/17/2009 10:58 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote:

>  Yes, good.
>  
>  For Fedora packaging, you can also look into my presentation that
>  briefly addresses the .spec file and the tools and options used:
>
> http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/packaging-red-hot-pane...
FYI, You might want to track RPM 4.8 changes in

http://www.rpm.org/wiki/Releases/4.8.0

There are particular changes that has a impact on the presentation,
definition of build root, cleaning up in %install and in %clean happens
automatically now for example.

RPM 4.8 beta1 is in Rawhide already.

Rahul

[Aanjhan R]

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Ankur Sinha <sanjay.ankur(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Please add more to the agenda. 
I would like to hear / discuss more on this from other folks. I assume
folks who turn up on IRC for the meeting are active contributors/ new
contributors etc and hence it will be easier to get opinion / action
points.

11 AM is way too early in my time zone. So I wont be there, but my
ghost shall lurk around.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sankarshan/fossin09_feedback

Regards,
Aanjhan

[Hiemanshu Sharma]

I will try my best to be there. I should be here unless sleep takes over
time (Seeing that I usually sleep at 5 AM)
Do ping me just in case.

Regards,

Hiemanshu Sharma.

[Debarshi Ray]

>  I will try my best to be there. I should be here unless sleep takes
> over
>  time (Seeing that I usually sleep at 5 AM)
>  Do ping me just in case. 
What sort of pinging will wake you up from your lumber? Phone calls?
Just curious. :-)

Cheers,
Debarshi
-- 
One reason that life is complex is that it has a real part and an
imaginary part.
    -- Andrew Koenig

[Hiemanshu Sharma]

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On 12/18/2009 01:51 AM, Debarshi Ray wrote:
> > I will try my best to be there. I should be here unless sleep
> takes over
> > time (Seeing that I usually sleep at 5 AM)
> > Do ping me just in case.
>  
>  What sort of pinging will wake you up from your lumber? Phone calls?
>  Just curious. :-)
>  
>  Cheers,
>  Debarshi 
The ping will help me know the meeting is starting, If I am up, I ll
have a flashing windows at my face. I am usually up by 10AM so thats not
a problem.

Regards,

Hiemanshu Sharma.
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