Hi All,
I just got a notification that bugzilla.gnome.org is being replaced by gitlab.gnome.org and that they are starting over.
-T
On 2020-11-13 12:17, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 11/13/20 12:32 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
I just got a notification that bugzilla.gnome.org is being replaced by gitlab.gnome.org and that they are starting over.
Well, that's one way of getting rid of all the bugs they don't want to work on.
They could always just ignore them as does Libre Office
On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 01:17:23PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 11/13/20 12:32 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
I just got a notification that bugzilla.gnome.org is being replaced by gitlab.gnome.org and that they are starting over.
Well, that's one way of getting rid of all the bugs they don't want to work on.
They said that they're migrating the bugs into gitlab issues.
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2018-May/msg00026.html
On 2020-11-13 12:41, Jonathan Billings wrote:
On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 01:17:23PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 11/13/20 12:32 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
I just got a notification that bugzilla.gnome.org is being replaced by gitlab.gnome.org and that they are starting over.
Well, that's one way of getting rid of all the bugs they don't want to work on.
They said that they're migrating the bugs into gitlab issues.
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2018-May/msg00026.html
Interesting double speak on their part. This is what they said in my notification:
If you still use gparted and if you still see this bug / want this feature in a recent and currently supported version, then please feel free to report it at https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gparted/-/issues/
That means they are starting over. Lets hope they are migrating!
Gnome bugzilla is absolutely useless, as nobody is doing any bugfixes. I don't think that a single one of my bugs has been resolved ever since Fedora started using Gnome. Its a very strong indication of a broken system, and probably a very broken development organization.
So, maybe moving to a different tracking system will be a good thing. At least GitLab will nag them about their backlog until its corrected. However, more critically, Gnome needs more people fixing bugs instead of writing new features, and much better communications.
If that doesn't work, maybe its time in (say) a year, for Fedora to move the default GUI install away from Gnome.
On 2020-11-13 2:32 p.m., ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
I just got a notification that bugzilla.gnome.org is being replaced by gitlab.gnome.org and that they are starting over.
I think you have more chance of seeing the sun go nova.
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 at 15:54, John Mellor john.mellor@gmail.com wrote:
Gnome bugzilla is absolutely useless, as nobody is doing any bugfixes. I don't think that a single one of my bugs has been resolved ever since Fedora started using Gnome. Its a very strong indication of a broken system, and probably a very broken development organization.
So, maybe moving to a different tracking system will be a good thing. At least GitLab will nag them about their backlog until its corrected. However, more critically, Gnome needs more people fixing bugs instead of writing new features, and much better communications.
If that doesn't work, maybe its time in (say) a year, for Fedora to move the default GUI install away from Gnome.
On 2020-11-13 2:32 p.m., ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
I just got a notification that bugzilla.gnome.org is being replaced by gitlab.gnome.org and that they are starting over.
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 at 09:54, John Mellor john.mellor@gmail.com wrote:
Gnome bugzilla is absolutely useless, as nobody is doing any bugfixes. I don't think that a single one of my bugs has been resolved ever since Fedora started using Gnome. Its a very strong indication of a broken system, and probably a very broken development organization.
I suspect the majority of developers who are actually paid to work on linux are working on things useful for HPC: deep learning, numerical modelling, etc. X.org has also suffered.
Linux has the advantage and disadvantage that there are many desktop environments/experiences. Variety is good as it promotes exploration and innovation, but it results in developer resources being spread across many projects.
So, maybe moving to a different tracking system will be a good thing. At least GitLab will nag them about their backlog until its corrected. However, more critically, Gnome needs more people fixing bugs instead of writing new features, and much better communications.
If that doesn't work, maybe its time in (say) a year, for Fedora to move the default GUI install away from Gnome.
I use Gnome because the majority of the minority of my colleagues that use linux (most use macOS if IT allows it, otherwise are stuck with "enterprise standard Windows") on laptops are using Gnome on Ubuntu or Debian (while doing heavy computations on RHEL/CENTOS). With Fedora getting some vendor support, more users may start using Fedora to avoid dealing with different package systems.
In my experience, MATE is the second most popular desktop (thanks to Mint). There have been efforts to support Wayland via MIR:
https://ubuntu-mate.org/faq/roadmap/#modern-display-server-support. https://github.com/wmww/mate-wayland-snap,