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> 1. Re: a paper I can't find... (Vivek J. Patankar)
> 2. RE: Installing DVD iso (Duncan Berriman)
> 3. Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT (Mikkel L. Ellertson)
> 4. Re: OT: are usb flash drives suitable archival media?
> (Bill Davidsen)
> 5. Re: Installing DVD iso (Mikkel L. Ellertson)
> 6. Re: Installing DVD iso (Mikkel L. Ellertson)
> 7. Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT (Les Mikesell)
> 8. Re: b43: Driver keeps upping CPU % until system freezes for a
> few seconds? (Kelly Miller)
> 9. Re: Excessive network traffic - (Les Mikesell)
> 10. Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT (Karl Larsen)
> 11. Re: how to share internet connection in fedora (Karl Larsen)
> 12. Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT (Dave Ihnat)
> 13. Re: Installing DVD iso (Todd Zullinger)
> 14. Re: Wanna give me a hand debunking this? (Jeff Spaleta)
> 15. Re: Fonts (Firefox/Windows & Firefox/Linux) (Todd Zullinger)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:09:44 +0530
> From: "Vivek J. Patankar" <vivek.patankar(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: a paper I can't find...
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
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> Mike Chalmers wrote:
> > Years ago there was this paper written by a man who lost his job
> > because he wrote the paper. The paper was an uproar in the Linux
> > community. I cannot remember but I think that the paper was about why
> > Microsoft is wrong, among other things concerning Microsoft.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me where I can find this paper please, it is pretty
> > important that I find it? I know this is the Fedora list, but I don't
> > know where else to post on it where I can get a good response.
>
> What you are referring to are probably the famous "Halloween Documents"
> written by Vinod Valloppillil & Josh Cohen that were leaked from
> Microsoft and ultimately wound up with Eric S Raymond who published
> them. Link below
>
>
http://www.catb.org/~esr/halloween
>
> AFAIR, Vinod didn't lose his job because he wrote them. It was an
> assignment of his. He quit MS sometime after they were leaked.
>
> --
> Regards,
> विवà¥à¤ à¤. पाà¤à¤£à¤à¤° (Vivek J. Patankar)
>
> Registered Linux User #374218
> Fedora release 7 (Moonshine)
> Linux 2.6.22.4-65.fc7 x86_64
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:43:14 -0000
> From: "Duncan Berriman" <duncan(a)dcl.co.uk>
> Subject: RE: Installing DVD iso
> To: "'For users of Fedora'" <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
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> I installed FC8 using http as I did not have a dvd on the system.
>
> Here is how I did it (may be other ways as this was my first attempt).
>
> Download the full dvd iso.
>
> Then either burn it to a dvd and configure your web server/ftp server to
> allow access to the dvd or copy the files off the dvd to your web
> server/dvd server. Alternatively extract the files directly from the iso to
> a directory on to your web server/ftp server.
>
> Download the Fedora Core 8 Rescue Disk iso image from
> (/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/Fedora/i386/iso) and burn this on to a CD.
>
> Boot and Install
>
> Boot the server where you want to install FC8 from the Rescue Disk.
>
> When it boots choose Install or upgrade an existing system from the menu.
>
> Select the language and keyboard type from the menu.
>
> You can then choose to install from Local CD/DVD, Hard drive, NFS
> directory, FTP or HTTP
>
> Choose HTTP or FTP as appropriate and fill in the details.
>
> In my case I used Http so I then input just the ip address of my web server
> and the directory containing the unpacked iso image. If you are using a
> service over the internet then you need to target the 'os' directory
> (/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/Fedora/i386/os for instance). I have not
> tried this yet!
>
> You can also use boot.iso (minimal boot) or diskboot.img (usb stick) to
> boot and start the install (These can be found in
> fedora/linux/releases/8/Fedora/i386/os/images on any mirror.)
>
> Duncan
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fedora-list-bounces(a)redhat.com
> > [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Bill Davidsen
> > Sent: 26 November 2007 18:51
> > To: For users of Fedora
> > Subject: Re: Installing DVD iso
> >
> > Robert L Cochran wrote:
> > > Right, and you can install over NFS: put the iso image in a
> >
> > directory on
> >
> > > a different Linux machine, export that directory over NFS,
> >
> > and then use
> >
> > > the rescue CD to start the installation with. Specify "NFS
> >
> > image" as the
> >
> > > installation type when you come to that screen.
> >
> > Have you actually /done that/ with anything newser than FC6?
> > Because I
> > posted a while ago here that I couldn't make it work, had
> > verified that
> > both the http and nfs access worked, and a number of people
> > agreed that
> > it hasn't worked recently because it's still trying to find
> > stuff on CD
> > subdirectories of some such.
> >
> > I took the download URLs right from the http server log, ran them on
> > another system, and verified that they worked and gave
> > correct. I tried
> > both the live CD install and the "boot.iso" versions to be sure I had
> > valid boots.
> >
> > > You can do it over ftp too. I haven't done an ftp install
> >
> > in a while
> >
> > > though.
> > >
> > > You can also do it over VNC. I've only done that once and
> >
> > with an early
> >
> > > version of Fedora Core, probably 2 or 3. VNC-based installs seems
> > > unnecssarily complicated to me.
> > >
> > > Why bother burning DVD media, if you can do it over the
> >
> > network or on a
> >
> > > hard drive they way Jeff suggests?
> >
> > Because recently the network install only seems to work if
> > you rsync the
> > whole tree and create a repository.
> >
> > --
> > Bill Davidsen <davidsen(a)tmr.com>
> > "We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent
> > than from
> > the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:54:04 -0600
> From: "Mikkel L. Ellertson" <mikkel(a)infinity-ltd.com>
> Subject: Re: PROJECT BLACKHAT
> To: For users of Fedora <fedora-list(a)redhat.com>
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> Craig White wrote:
> > great
> >
> > we now have Gene, Frank and Dave as list moms.
> >
> > knock yourselves out guys, you will really be performing a valuable
> > service to the fedora-list by making sure that those who misspell,
> > grammatically fracture the language, etc. are summarily dismissed - even
> > banished from the list if necessary.
> >
> > Craig
>
> Well, I guess you can add me to that list. You seem to be missing
> the point - if you don't communicate clearly, then you are going to
> have a problem getting help, or persuading people to support your
> project. There are a lot of people on this list that will just
> ignore your message if they have to struggle to understand it. By
> this, I don't mean people struggling to write in English
> when it is not their native language.
>
> But sense you feel that clear posting is not necessary, then you
> handle these types of posts. After all, there is no reason they
> should try to reach the largest possible audience, is there?
>
> Mikkel
> --
>
> Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons,
> for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup!
>
>