Everyone! Please read
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-July/451692.html
I am not kidding.
This morning, there are a dozen new messages all recycling around points that have already been made hundreds of posts ago in this thread. Regardless of the merit of these points, this is a vortex of echos. And, really, the merit is dubious even when the points are good -- systemd was selected for Fedora 15, and of course we're building 21 now. There's nothing here which wasn't weighed *years ago*. Overwhelming threads make our mailing lists useless to existing users and intimidating to new ones.
It's time to stop spinning in place and work on something constructive.