12:07 a.m.
Hi Gang,
In considering a new computer, one of those under consideration is an
AMD chip with Windoze; the salesman suggested that other customers
have said that Linux has issues with AMD. Do we have issues with this
chip? Since I haven't read anything at least in a long time I have the
opinion that it has been solved. Am I wrong? I ended up saving my
money because of his concern.
Thanks.
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Richard
2:24 p.m.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Fred Smith
<fredex(a)fcshome.stoneham.ma.us> wrote:
AMD video chips, OTOH, are not (IMHO) as well supported.
Today with AMD APUs (CPU+GPU in a single chip) the support can only improve
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_a10_6800k&...
..and according to Larabel things look great wrt GPUs too going forward
AMD Radeon GPUs Run Great With Linux 3.11 Kernel, Mesa 9.3-devel
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_dpm_mix&num=1
..and he founds surprisingly good 3D/OpenGL performance with AMD/ATI
proprietary drivers, even matching the Windows8 ones..
AMD Gallium3D & Catalyst Drivers Compete Against Windows
Published on August 02, 2013
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_win8_ubuntu13&...
"The modern Linux Catalyst driver shares mostly common code with the
Windows Catalyst driver aside from the platform-specific bits and
other obvious differences. Our past testing of the AMD drivers between
Windows and Linux has been mixed with the performance some years being
closer than in other years where the AMD Linux driver has fallen
behind" (...)
" It wasn't a surprise that the open-source Radeon Gallium3D was much
slower than Catalyst, but took us off guard a bit was that the Linux
Catalyst driver does take some noticeable performance hits over the
Microsoft Windows driver in some OpenGL workloads."
FC
Note:Phoronix uses Ubuntu, not Fedora, for the tests quoted above...
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2:04 p.m.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:07 AM, Richard Vickery
<richard.vickeryrv(a)gmail.com> wrote:
the salesman suggested that other customers
have said that Linux has issues with AMD
If you trust what any salesman says you have problems... ;)
Using an AMD Fusion APU based tablet from MSI here.
And AMD developers are regular contributors to the Linux kernel
http://goo.gl/Tz2Ipb
Plus, it feels great to support true innovators, those that gave us
the 64-bit x86 architecture aka AMD64 that Intel later copied as
EM64T...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64#History_of_AMD64
Not to mention the peace of mind of not supporting repeated abusers of
their dominant position...
98
FTC: Intel Abuses its Monopoly Power in Violation of Federal Law
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1998/06/intelc.shtm
2009
FTC Charges Intel's Anticompetitive Tactics Have Stifled Innovation
and Harmed Consumers
http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2009/12/intel.shtm
So there... :) It's always AMD for me...
FC
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1:57 p.m.
On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 22:07:46 -0700
Richard Vickery <richard.vickeryrv(a)gmail.com> wrote:
In considering a new computer, one of those under consideration is an
AMD chip with Windoze; the salesman suggested that other customers
have said that Linux has issues with AMD. Do we have issues with this
chip? Since I haven't read anything at least in a long time I have the
opinion that it has been solved. Am I wrong? I ended up saving my
money because of his concern.
The usual advice always applies --- download and burn a LiveCD image
of your favorite version of Fedora, boot the computer from that, and
test if everything works as you expect it to. After that you can decide
if you want to buy it or not.
HTH, :-)
Marko
1:51 p.m.
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:07:46PM -0700, Richard Vickery wrote:
Hi Gang,
In considering a new computer, one of those under consideration is an
AMD chip with Windoze; the salesman suggested that other customers
have said that Linux has issues with AMD. Do we have issues with this
chip? Since I haven't read anything at least in a long time I have the
opinion that it has been solved. Am I wrong? I ended up saving my
money because of his concern.
Thanks.
--
Richard
it's not clear whether you're referring to an AMD CPU, or an AMD
(nee ATI) video chip.
AMD cpus work fine, I've hardly ever owned a system with an Intel
CPU and never had any compatibility issues.
AMD video chips, OTOH, are not (IMHO) as well supported.
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1:27 p.m.
Gentle People:
I have several AMD systems with various Fedora versions without
problems.
A way bigger issue as stated previously is that of drivers.
Thomas Dineen
On 8/19/2013 10:57 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
On 08/19/2013 12:07 AM, Richard Vickery wrote:
> In considering a new computer, one of those under consideration is an
> AMD chip with Windoze; the salesman suggested that other customers
> have said that Linux has issues with AMD. Do we have issues with this
> chip? Since I haven't read anything at least in a long time I have the
> opinion that it has been solved. Am I wrong? I ended up saving my
> money because of his concern.
The problem won't be with the CPU. Your motherboard and peripherals may or may
not have issues (missing, broken drivers).
Can you post the model number of the motherboard? Perhaps another user is using
it or you can use Google.
12:55 p.m.
On Sun, 2013-08-18 at 22:07 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote:
Hi Gang,
In considering a new computer, one of those under consideration is an
AMD chip with Windoze; the salesman suggested that other customers
have said that Linux has issues with AMD. Do we have issues with this
chip? Since I haven't read anything at least in a long time I have the
opinion that it has been solved. Am I wrong? I ended up saving my
money because of his concern.
Thanks.
--
Richard
I have always preferred AMD processors and in fact the one I am using
now has the following configuration:
7.8 GiB
AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1035T Processor x 6
64 bit
Gallium 0.4 on AMD JUNIPER
GNOME Version 3.8.2
Running F19, FEL package with several add-ons such as MPLABX. Works
great!!
12:31 p.m.
On 19.08.2013, Richard Vickery wrote:
In considering a new computer, one of those under consideration is
an
AMD chip with Windoze; the salesman suggested that other customers
have said that Linux has issues with AMD. Do we have issues with this
chip?
There are some issues with all chips, Windows or Linux. That said, AMD CPUs
have been working for me a very long time, without anything serious. I'm
not aware of one single issue why you shouldn't buy an AMD CPU. Just go
ahead and jump :-)
12:57 p.m.
On 08/19/2013 12:07 AM, Richard Vickery wrote:
In considering a new computer, one of those under consideration is
an
AMD chip with Windoze; the salesman suggested that other customers
have said that Linux has issues with AMD. Do we have issues with this
chip? Since I haven't read anything at least in a long time I have the
opinion that it has been solved. Am I wrong? I ended up saving my
money because of his concern.
The problem won't be with the CPU. Your motherboard and peripherals may or may
not have issues (missing, broken drivers).
Can you post the model number of the motherboard? Perhaps another user is using
it or you can use Google.
12:56 p.m.
On 19.08.2013 19:31, Heinz Diehl wrote:
There are some issues with all chips, Windows or Linux. That said,
AMD CPUs
have been working for me a very long time, without anything serious. I'm
not aware of one single issue why you shouldn't buy an AMD CPU. Just go
ahead and jump :-)
Please tell me how did you translate what the OP says, in the first
place. :)
poma
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