3:59 p.m.
Hi,
I've upgraded my Fedora from F9 to F14 with preupgrade and am now
planning a new hard drive install and a fresh Fedora install to
whatever's current when I get to it. I've wanted for a long time to
have a non-google desktop search that would index browser history and
emails at a minimum. Beagle would fill the fill. The last time I tried
it was about three years ago and it was such a cpu hog that I had to
take it out.
Reading some recent articles and reviews makes Beagle seem still to be
the tool of choice but it doesn't seem to have had much activity
recently from the developer side. Of cours, this may just be because
the feature set is complete and working, which might make it useful
and stable, a nice pair of attributes. Does anyone have better info on
this? or even better, some recent experience?
TIA
Dave
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6:34 p.m.
Am 24.02.2013 01:09, schrieb Frantisek Hanzlik:
Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 23.02.2013 22:59, schrieb Dave Stevens:
>> I've upgraded my Fedora from F9 to F14 with preupgrade and am now
>> planning a new hard drive install and a fresh Fedora install
>
> and why in the world are you upragding only to F14? nobody here cares
> about F14 because F17 is the latest supported release
You must speak for oneself, Reindl
no - having unsupported operating systems in production
and connected to the internet is plain stupid, you
can put your head in the sand and ignore it, but thats
the fact
I myself still run several F14
big mistake
so far I do not want upgrade them, simply for several reasons
there is no one
they are quite stable, much more than F16+ ones (F15 was rather
unusable, I almost avoid it).
you must do something wrong
had F15, F16 and now F17 in production
they are stable
- they works as I want, not as wind blows (yes, have you someone
tried
e.g. switch to runlevel 1 and then back to runlevel 5 (oops,
rescue.target/graphical.target ;)
what are you doing taht you nedd runlevel 1?
- they use stable pretty Gnome2 WM
who needs GNOME?
- they act as LTSP (Linux Terminal Server Project) servers (which
seems dead with F15+)
well and why the hell do you use fedora
if you need RHEL/CentOS?
Of course, some drawback is that F14 isn't supported yet and I
have
package some important packages itself, but this isn't too big
problem.
ah and you package all of the security updates too?
And yes, if I had know 2 years back how will be next Fedora
development take, then I should have at these boxes Centos or some
*buntu distro (where is LTSP supported well).
you have only two options
* upgrade
* pull the network cable
As rather optimist, I hope F19 will be at least so good as F14 was
F17/F18 are stable and working fine
F18 only if you upgrade from F17 because anaconda
2:23 p.m.
Quoting Frantisek Hanzlik <franta(a)hanzlici.cz>:
Suvayu Ali wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 06:35:52PM -0800, Dave Stevens wrote:
>> Quoting poma <pomidorabelisima(a)gmail.com>:
>>
>>> On 02/23/13 22:59, Dave Stevens wrote:
>>> […]
>>>> stable, a nice pair of attributes. Does anyone have better info on this?
>>>> or even better, some recent experience?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Recoll/Xapian!
>>> yum info recoll
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> poma
>>
>> Thanks, it does look good. Do you use it?
>
> I would recommend this too. I use it from time to time, however since
> I'm on the terminal most of the time, I just use find + grep usually.
I can only agree with You - and maybe locate (from mlocate rpm) yet,
along with find and grep, are very powerfull and flexible tools.
Thanks for the info, everyone, I'm trying out recoll and its firefox
plugin now, it does seem to work well. And I do use locate and grep,
wasn't aware of locate or find will check them out.
D
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1:17 a.m.
On 02/24/13 07:31, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote:
Suvayu Ali wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 06:35:52PM -0800, Dave Stevens wrote:
>> Quoting poma <pomidorabelisima(a)gmail.com>:
>>
>>> On 02/23/13 22:59, Dave Stevens wrote:
>>> […]
>>>> stable, a nice pair of attributes. Does anyone have better info on this?
>>>> or even better, some recent experience?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Recoll/Xapian!
>>> yum info recoll
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> poma
>>
>> Thanks, it does look good. Do you use it?
>
> I would recommend this too. I use it from time to time, however since
> I'm on the terminal most of the time, I just use find + grep usually.
I can only agree with You - and maybe locate (from mlocate rpm) yet,
along with find and grep, are very powerfull and flexible tools.
And above them Catfish au pair with the Thunar.
France cuisine. :)
Cheers,
poma
1:05 a.m.
On 02/24/13 03:35, Dave Stevens wrote:
Quoting poma <pomidorabelisima(a)gmail.com>:
> On 02/23/13 22:59, Dave Stevens wrote:
> […]
>> stable, a nice pair of attributes. Does anyone have better info on this?
>> or even better, some recent experience?
>>
>
> Recoll/Xapian!
> yum info recoll
>
>
> Cheers,
> poma
Thanks, it does look good. Do you use it?
No, but I teach others how to use. :)
Cheers,
poma
12:31 a.m.
Suvayu Ali wrote:
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 06:35:52PM -0800, Dave Stevens wrote:
> Quoting poma <pomidorabelisima(a)gmail.com>:
>
>> On 02/23/13 22:59, Dave Stevens wrote:
>> […]
>>> stable, a nice pair of attributes. Does anyone have better info on this?
>>> or even better, some recent experience?
>>>
>>
>> Recoll/Xapian!
>> yum info recoll
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> poma
>
> Thanks, it does look good. Do you use it?
I would recommend this too. I use it from time to time, however since
I'm on the terminal most of the time, I just use find + grep usually.
I can only agree with You - and maybe locate (from mlocate rpm) yet,
along with find and grep, are very powerfull and flexible tools.
9:38 p.m.
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 06:35:52PM -0800, Dave Stevens wrote:
Quoting poma <pomidorabelisima(a)gmail.com>:
>On 02/23/13 22:59, Dave Stevens wrote:
>[…]
>>stable, a nice pair of attributes. Does anyone have better info on this?
>>or even better, some recent experience?
>>
>
>Recoll/Xapian!
>yum info recoll
>
>
>Cheers,
>poma
Thanks, it does look good. Do you use it?
I would recommend this too. I use it from time to time, however since
I'm on the terminal most of the time, I just use find + grep usually.
--
Suvayu
Open source is the future. It sets us free.
8:35 p.m.
Quoting poma <pomidorabelisima(a)gmail.com>:
--
The problem with being cynical is you can't keep up!
-- anon. philosopher
On 02/23/13 22:59, Dave Stevens wrote:
[…]
> stable, a nice pair of attributes. Does anyone have better info on this?
> or even better, some recent experience?
>
Recoll/Xapian!
yum info recoll
Cheers,
poma
Thanks, it does look good. Do you use it?
d
7:42 p.m.
Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 24.02.2013 02:07, schrieb Frantisek Hanzlik:
> - these boxes aren't directly on internet
good so
> Even if they would be, they will not offers many services
> to internet and there isn't problem secure them
laughable
how do you secure a machine with so security-updates?
YOU patch tke kernel?
YOU patch the network stack?
even without a service offered it would be naive
to feel secuer with such a machine - maybe you should
read how intrusions in the last few years happened
even for machines behind a NAt router with no public
service to get a picture
Of course, there may be some danger of intrusion, as always, but
- internet browsers and mail clients are regularly updated, luckily
Mozilla offers RPM packages, flash-plugin are actualizad too.
- some other SW (OpenOffice and so forth) is downloadabe in actual
versions and as RPM packages too.
- as I wrote before, I packaged some RPMs itself
- some RPMs from RHEL/Centos 6 are Fedora14-well-compatible
- DoS attack I outlive, compromitation at user level too (unusual
traffic is blocked and monitored at firewall], thus only real danger
is gaining full controll over the box - but some regular tests and
precautions are done.
thus I'm sleeping smoothly.
(as now, 2:39 AM my time ;)
7:17 p.m.
Am 24.02.2013 02:07, schrieb Frantisek Hanzlik:
- these boxes aren't directly on internet
good so
Even if they would be, they will not offers many services
to internet and there isn't problem secure them
laughable
how do you secure a machine with so security-updates?
YOU patch tke kernel?
YOU patch the network stack?
even without a service offered it would be naive
to feel secuer with such a machine - maybe you should
read how intrusions in the last few years happened
even for machines behind a NAt router with no public
service to get a picture
7:07 p.m.
Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 24.02.2013 01:09, schrieb Frantisek Hanzlik:
> Reindl Harald wrote:
>>
>>
>> Am 23.02.2013 22:59, schrieb Dave Stevens:
>>> I've upgraded my Fedora from F9 to F14 with preupgrade and am now
>>> planning a new hard drive install and a fresh Fedora install
>>
>> and why in the world are you upragding only to F14? nobody here cares
>> about F14 because F17 is the latest supported release
>
> You must speak for oneself, Reindl
no - having unsupported operating systems in production
and connected to the internet is plain stupid, you
can put your head in the sand and ignore it, but thats
the fact
> I myself still run several F14
big mistake
> so far I do not want upgrade them, simply for several reasons
there is no one
> they are quite stable, much more than F16+ ones (F15 was rather
> unusable, I almost avoid it).
you must do something wrong
had F15, F16 and now F17 in production
they are stable
> - they works as I want, not as wind blows (yes, have you someone tried
> e.g. switch to runlevel 1 and then back to runlevel 5 (oops,
> rescue.target/graphical.target ;)
what are you doing taht you nedd runlevel 1?
> - they use stable pretty Gnome2 WM
who needs GNOME?
> - they act as LTSP (Linux Terminal Server Project) servers (which
> seems dead with F15+)
well and why the hell do you use fedora
if you need RHEL/CentOS?
> Of course, some drawback is that F14 isn't supported yet and I have
> package some important packages itself, but this isn't too big
> problem.
ah and you package all of the security updates too?
> And yes, if I had know 2 years back how will be next Fedora
> development take, then I should have at these boxes Centos or some
> *buntu distro (where is LTSP supported well).
you have only two options
* upgrade
* pull the network cable
> As rather optimist, I hope F19 will be at least so good as F14 was
F17/F18 are stable and working fine
F18 only if you upgrade from F17 because anaconda
- these boxes aren't directly on internet. Even if they would be,
they will not offers many services to internet and there isn't problem
secure them.
- it seems as my experience is different than Your, perhaps You are
using other software than I.
Anyway, You must address Your hints in this area to someone another's.
Your extreme words aren't well-founded for me, sorry.
6:09 p.m.
Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 23.02.2013 22:59, schrieb Dave Stevens:
> I've upgraded my Fedora from F9 to F14 with preupgrade and am now
> planning a new hard drive install and a fresh Fedora install
and why in the world are you upragding only to F14? nobody here cares
about F14 because F17 is the latest supported release
You must speak for oneself, Reindl. I myself still run several F14
boxes and so far I do not want upgrade them, simply for several
reasons:
- they are quite stable, much more than F16+ ones (F15 was rather
unusable, I almost avoid it).
- they works as I want, not as wind blows (yes, have you someone tried
e.g. switch to runlevel 1 and then back to runlevel 5 (oops,
rescue.target/graphical.target ;)
- they use stable pretty Gnome2 WM
- they act as LTSP (Linux Terminal Server Project) servers (which
seems dead with F15+)
Of course, some drawback is that F14 isn't supported yet and I have
package some important packages itself, but this isn't too big
problem. And yes, if I had know 2 years back how will be next Fedora
development take, then I should have at these boxes Centos or some
*buntu distro (where is LTSP supported well).
As rather optimist, I hope F19 will be at least so good as F14 was.
Franta Hanzlik
4:04 p.m.
Quoting Reindl Harald <h.reindl(a)thelounge.net>:
Am 23.02.2013 22:59, schrieb Dave Stevens:
> I've upgraded my Fedora from F9 to F14 with preupgrade and am now
> planning a new hard drive
> install and a fresh Fedora install
and why in the world are you upragding only to F14?
nobody here cares about F14 because F17 is the latest supported release
no no I upgraded as far as 14 quite a while ago and now will move to a
current version.
d
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The problem with being cynical is you can't keep up!
-- anon. philosopher
4:01 p.m.
Am 23.02.2013 22:59, schrieb Dave Stevens:
I've upgraded my Fedora from F9 to F14 with preupgrade and am now
planning a new hard drive
install and a fresh Fedora install
and why in the world are you upragding only to F14?
nobody here cares about F14 because F17 is the latest supported release
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