Update on the KDE KF5 build boondoggle

[Mark Haney]

I was all prepared to upgrade my F22 KDE laptop to F23 when I got the
kf5-filesystem warning when trying to download the upgrade files.  I did
some digging and found a couple of previous posts (and the bug report)
about the issue, but wasn't able to get a complete, current status of this.

Can someone bring me up to speed on where we are with this?  I've got a
dozen or so similar systems I would like to upgrade but am hesitant to do
so until I get some idea of state of this issue.

[Rex Dieter]

Mark Haney wrote:
> I was all prepared to upgrade my F22 KDE laptop to F23 when I got the
> kf5-filesystem warning when trying to download the upgrade files.  I did
> some digging and found a couple of previous posts (and the bug report)
> about the issue, but wasn't able to get a complete, current status of
> this.
>
> Can someone bring me up to speed on where we are with this?  I've got a
> dozen or so similar systems I would like to upgrade but am hesitant to do
> so until I get some idea of state of this issue.

Sorry about that. :(

tracked here:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1277850

Issue is that
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-084749eee7
that was supposed to be pushed stable a few days ago, didn't actually make 
it (for whatever reason).  It's being repushed now.

-- Rex

[Mark Haney]

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Rex Dieter  wrote:
> > Can someone bring me up to speed on where we are with this?  I've got a
> > dozen or so similar systems I would like to upgrade but am hesitant to do
> > so until I get some idea of state of this issue.
>
> Sorry about that. :(

No apologies necessary.  It happens.  I did not mean to sound upset or
angry, I just want to make sure everything is copacetic before upgrading
these systems.
> tracked here:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1277850
>
> Issue is that
> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-084749eee7
> that was supposed to be pushed stable a few days ago, didn't actually make
> it (for whatever reason).  It's being repushed now.
>
> -- Rex

So, I should be able to upgrade in the next few hours or so?

[Rick Stevens]

On 11/04/2015 10:10 AM, Mark Haney wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Rex Dieter <[e-mail]
> > wrote:
> > Can someone bring me up to speed on where we are with this?  I've got a
> > dozen or so similar systems I would like to upgrade but am hesitant to do
> > so until I get some idea of state of this issue.
>
> Sorry about that. :(
>
>
> No apologies necessary.  It happens.  I did not mean to sound upset or
> angry, I just want to make sure everything is copacetic before upgrading
> these systems.
> tracked here:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1277850
>
> Issue is that
> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2015-084749eee7
> that was supposed to be pushed stable a few days ago, didn't
> actually make
> it (for whatever reason).  It's being repushed now.
>
> -- Rex
>
> So, I should be able to upgrade in the next few hours or so?

I'm going to chime in here...I wouldn't upgrade for a week or so at
least if you have that many systems to do. While many folk have
upgraded with no issues, some have had some awful issues. The F23 repos
are still in a state of flux (they're not fully synced yet), there have
been problems with nVidia driver incompatibility with the F23 version
of X, some issues with KDE desktop items not being pushed into release,
etc., etc.

We always seem to have these issues when a new release comes out. The
devel folk do a very good job of testing, but they only have access to
a limited assortment of hardware platforms. Some of the bug-a-boos don't
appear until it gets "into the wild."

Personally, I almost always wait at least two weeks. Sorry gang, but I
don't have the time to catch the spears on new releases and I kind of
rely on some of the others here to winnow out some of the really nasty
gotchas. For those that walk the minefield before me, I am eternally
grateful!

"I don't have to be faster than the bear--I only have to be faster than
YOU!"
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[Mark Haney]

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Rick Stevens  wrote:
> On 11/04/2015 10:10 AM, Mark Haney wrote:
> > So, I should be able to upgrade in the next few hours or so?
>
> I'm going to chime in here...I wouldn't upgrade for a week or so at
> least if you have that many systems to do. While many folk have
> upgraded with no issues, some have had some awful issues. The F23 repos
> are still in a state of flux (they're not fully synced yet), there have
> been problems with nVidia driver incompatibility with the F23 version
> of X, some issues with KDE desktop items not being pushed into release,
> etc., etc.

I completely understand where you're coming from on this, at work it's
always the 'wait for Service Pack 1' mindset.
> We always seem to have these issues when a new release comes out. The
> devel folk do a very good job of testing, but they only have access to
> a limited assortment of hardware platforms. Some of the bug-a-boos don't
> appear until it gets "into the wild."
> Personally, I almost always wait at least two weeks. Sorry gang, but I
> don't have the time to catch the spears on new releases and I kind of
> rely on some of the others here to winnow out some of the really nasty
> gotchas. For those that walk the minefield before me, I am eternally
> grateful!

I do understand the sentiment here as well, but maybe I unintentionally
misled everyone with my mention of the number of systems I want to
upgrade.  None of these are production level systems, in fact only one is
work related (that being my laptop). The rest are my daughters' laptops, my
home servers and my parents systems. My work has a couple dozen Ubuntu
systems (not my first choice, btw), so I rebel and run Fedora on my laptop.
> "I don't have to be faster than the bear--I only have to be faster than
> YOU!"

And after undergoing 6 surgeries on my feet and looking at having one to
repair a damaged knee, I do believe most corpses could outrun me, I think
you're safe.  :)