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Upcoming scheduled tasks
by John Poelstra 22 Aug '09

22 Aug '09

Name Start End Create Alpha Announcement Wed 2009-08-19 Fri 2009-08-21 Comb Beats and Feature Pages for Alpha Wed 2009-08-19 Mon 2009-08-24 Prepare Alpha Release Notes (1 page) Mon 2009-08-24 Mon 2009-08-24 Write Unclaimed Wiki Beats Mon 2009-08-24 Thu 2009-08-27 Post Alpha Release Notes One-Page Tue 2009-08-25 Tue 2009-08-25 Alpha Public Availability Tue 2009-08-25 Tue 2009-08-25 Port Wiki to Publican Fri 2009-08-28 Thu 2009-09-03 Remind Translation: Beta Rel Notes POT Coming Tue 2009-09-01 Tue 2009-09-01

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Mallard review meeting
by Shaun McCance 21 Aug '09

21 Aug '09

Hi folks, The GNOME documentation team is going to have a Mallard review session this sunday at 17:00 UTC. I don't know how much members of the Fedora documentation team have worked with Mallard, but since our work upstream affects you, I'd like to invite anybody who's interested to stop by. Here's the wiki page for the meeting: http://live.gnome.org/DocumentationProject/Meeting20090823 And here's the latest build of the Mallard specification: http://www.gnome.org/~shaunm/mallard/spec.html The text of the specification is not complete in many places, but we want to focus on the content model for this meeting. Basically, we're looking for things that might cause problems that we can't fix in a backwards-compatible way after we've started shipping Mallard documents. If you can't attend the meeting but still have input, please send it to the gnome-doc-list(a)gnome.org mailing list. Feel free to contact me with any questions. -- Shaun

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Fedora 12 Alpha release notes: TODO
by Rahul Sundaram 20 Aug '09

20 Aug '09

Hi, I see a lot of discussions/meetings etc but not not enough people editing the release notes to generate actual content. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Alpha_release_notes If you want to help, the following things would be good to add: * Screenshot of NM broadband wizard * Replace the GNOME Volume screenshot with one taken with the default Fedora GNOME theme * Attach the Ogg Video of Plymouth bootup to the relevant section * Expand the PackageKit section with more details. Take a Ogg Theora Video of PackageKit command line plugin in action. * Add details on Empathy - protocols, feature esp in comparison to Pidgin and missing features that are planned to be filled in before the general release. Would help set expectations. Rahul

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License change in all Guides
by Eric Christensen 20 Aug '09

20 Aug '09

As we have been discussing for the past month or so, we are working to change our documentation license from OPL to CC-BY-SA 3.0. Please let me know, no later than 25 August 2009, if there is any problem with changing your guide over to the new CC license. -- Thanks, Eric Christensen Fedora Docs Project Lead Fedora Talk: 5102043 Phone: 919-424-0063 x 5102043 E-Mail: sparks(a)fedoraproject.org SIP: sparks(a)talk.fedoraproject.org IRC: Sparks on freenode.net GPG Fingerprint: CA02 4ACA EB6C 1A76 F0D6 1127 7D04 D240 BD0C 14C1

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Docs Meeting 2009-08-20 Summary
by Eric Christensen 20 Aug '09

20 Aug '09

=================================================================================================== #fedora-meeting: Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings =================================================================================================== Meeting started by Sparks at 00:02:48 UTC. The `full logs`_ are available. .. _`full logs`: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html Meeting log ----------- * **Roll Call** (Sparks-00:02:53_) * **Last week's action items** (Sparks-00:07:05_) * *ACTION*: Sparks to send an email to the list to pass this task on. (Sparks-00:12:25_) * *ACTION*: Sparks to put a note on the list about Shared Open-Source Style Guide (Sparks-00:12:40_) * *ACTION*: Sparks to create BZ component Deployment Guide --Third alarm (Sparks-00:19:46_) * *ACTION*: Sparks to write up CVE checking/validation procedures in the wiki --third alarm (Sparks-00:20:06_) * **Status on CMS (Zikula) <-- ke4qqq** (Sparks-00:21:52_) * *LINK*: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status (Sparks-00:22:04_) * *ACTION*: quaid to follow up with Mizmo on the Zikula theme (Sparks-00:34:03_) * **Status on CC license rollout.\** (Sparks-00:35:08_) * *LINK*: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/License_changeover_schedule (Sparks-00:35:19_) * *ACTION*: rudi to follow up with Jeff about changing the license information in Publican 0.44 and 1.0 (Sparks-00:37:43_) * *LINK*: http://i.creativecommons.org/l/by-sa/3.0/88x31.png (ianweller-00:38:27_) * *LINK*: http://fedoraproject.org/sponsors (quaid-00:40:34_) * *ACTION*: quaid to follow up with Richard about the use of the CC logo on the wiki. (Sparks-00:43:19_) * **Draft Documentation on the wiki** (Sparks-00:48:20_) * *LINK*: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Draft_Documentation (Sparks-00:48:29_) * **Guide needs?** (Sparks-00:55:27_) * **New Guides** (Sparks-00:56:09_) * **All other business** (Sparks-00:58:48_) .. _Sparks-00:02:53: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html#l-2 .. _Sparks-00:07:05: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html#l-9 .. _Sparks-00:12:25: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html#l-25 .. _Sparks-00:12:40: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html#l-26 .. _Sparks-00:19:46: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html#l-55 .. _Sparks-00:20:06: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html#l-56 .. _Sparks-00:21:52: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html#l-66 .. _Sparks-00:22:04: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html#l-67 .. _Sparks-00:34:03: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html#l-114 .. _Sparks-00:35:08: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html#l-116 .. _Sparks-00:35:19: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html#l-117 .. _Sparks-00:37:43: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html#l-131 .. _ianweller-00:38:27: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html#l-137 .. _quaid-00:40:34: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html#l-164 .. _Sparks-00:43:19: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html#l-172 .. _Sparks-00:48:20: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html#l-192 .. _Sparks-00:48:29: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html#l-193 .. _Sparks-00:55:27: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html#l-223 .. _Sparks-00:56:09: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html#l-225 .. _Sparks-00:58:48: fedora-meeting.2009-08-20-00.02.log.html#l-231 Meeting ended at 01:00:33 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Sparks to send an email to the list to pass this task on. * Sparks to put a note on the list about Shared Open-Source Style Guide * Sparks to create BZ component Deployment Guide --Third alarm * Sparks to write up CVE checking/validation procedures in the wiki --third alarm * quaid to follow up with Mizmo on the Zikula theme * rudi to follow up with Jeff about changing the license information in Publican 0.44 and 1.0 * quaid to follow up with Richard about the use of the CC logo on the wiki. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * quaid * quaid to follow up with Mizmo on the Zikula theme * quaid to follow up with Richard about the use of the CC logo on the wiki. * rudi * rudi to follow up with Jeff about changing the license information in Publican 0.44 and 1.0 * Sparks * Sparks to send an email to the list to pass this task on. * Sparks to put a note on the list about Shared Open-Source Style Guide * Sparks to create BZ component Deployment Guide --Third alarm * Sparks to write up CVE checking/validation procedures in the wiki --third alarm * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * Sparks (112) * quaid (44) * ianweller (29) * itbegins (26) * rudi (23) * ricky (4) Generated by `MeetBot`_ .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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[Fwd: Fw: License Change... Publican]
by Pam Chestek 19 Aug '09

19 Aug '09

Sorry I didn't respond to this sooner. As Richard suggests, we should make sure that the copyright license doesn't inadvertently extend to permit the use of the trademarks. My suggestion would be something like: The text and illustrations of this document are licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported license. FEDORA and the Fedora Infinity Design logo are trademarks of Red Hat, Inc., registered in the U.S. and other countries. For guidelines on the permitted uses of the Fedora trademarks go to [link]. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. I also point out that the current notice on the Fedora documentation says "All other trademarks /and copyrights/ referred to are the property of their respective owners." To me, mentioning that there might be other copyright owners in the notice only creates questions, because it might cause a downstream user to wonder whether the CC license applies to the entire work. Assuming we don't have anything that can't be licensed CC-BY-SA, then we should eliminate the confusion (and if we do have stuff that can't be licensed that way, then we have bigger problems). Pamela S. Chestek Senior IP Attorney Red Hat, Inc. 1801 Varsity Drive Raleigh, NC 27606 919-754-4473 pchestek(a)redhat.com Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:55:55 -0400 From: Richard Fontana <rfontana(a)redhat.com> To: For participants of the Documentation Project <fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com> Subject: Re: License Change... Publican On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:28:13 -0400 Eric Christensen <eric(a)christensenplace.us> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:24, Paul W. Frields<stickster(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 12:15:57PM -0400, Eric Christensen wrote: > >> So we need to be able to display the information found on the CC > >> Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 United States page[1]. Does anyone > >> have any recommendations on how this is displayed? > >> > >> [1] http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/ > > > > Display where? You mean in documents that have been built? > > Wouldn't that just be a change in the publican-fedora package to > > the /usr/share/publican/Common_Content/fedora/*/Legal_Notice.xml > > files? > > Yes, which is what I'm talking about. We need to change that text. > Do we want to include the CC graphic there as well? > > >From an existing doc: > This material may only be distributed subject to the terms and > conditions set forth in the Open Publication License, V1.0 > > to: > This material may only be distributed subject to the terms and > conditions set forth in the Creative Commons BY-SA, v3.0, license. I would recommend changing the text further than that. That language is taken directly from the OPL: Proper form for an incorporation by reference is as follows: Copyright (c) <year> by <author's name or designee>. This material may be distributed only subject to the terms and conditions set forth in the Open Publication License, vX.Y or later (the latest version is presently available at http://www.opencontent.org/openpub/) My recommendation: This document is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported license. That can probably be improved on. Also, you may wish to specify how you want attribution to be given. As a separate note, but raised in my mind because of this license change, perhaps the subsequent reference to Fedora trademarks in this Publican legal boilerplate should be accompanied by a pointer to the Fedora trademark guidelines (to clarify that the stylized Fedora mark and the Fedora infinity logo aren't themselves being licensed under CC-BY-SA). - RF -- fedora-docs-list mailing list fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-docs-list

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Re: Alpha announcement checked
by Paul W. Frields 19 Aug '09

19 Aug '09

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 02:15:24AM -0400, Mel Chua wrote: > I checked and updated version numbers (for instance, GNOME 2.27.90 beta > is the latest GNOME because GNOME 2.28 isn't yet out) and tried to make > the wording flow a little nicer. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Alpha_Announcement > > Steven, it's all yours. https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/16 I did just a smidge more fine tuning this morning. I'm going to cc the Docs team so they know this has been worked on. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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[Bug 515190] New: Segmentation fault while executing smbclient command in Fedora 9 32 Bit
by Red Hat Bugzilla 17 Aug '09

17 Aug '09

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: Segmentation fault while executing smbclient command in Fedora 9 32 Bit https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=515190 Summary: Segmentation fault while executing smbclient command in Fedora 9 32 Bit Product: Fedora Hosted Projects Version: unspecified Platform: i386 OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: high Priority: low Component: Deployment_Guide AssignedTo: mhideo(a)redhat.com ReportedBy: basavaraja_nr(a)spanservices.com QAContact: rlerch(a)redhat.com CC: fedora-docs-list(a)redhat.com Classification: Fedora Description of problem: Getting "Segmentation", when we try to get a file from windows using smbclient command. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): [root@fedora32b9 ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release Fedora release 9 (Sulphur) [root@fedora32b9 ~]# How reproducible: Steps to Reproduce: 1. Execute the smb-client command to get a file from Windows. smbclient \\\\10.10.60.5\\share -U administrator 2. Enter the Password, note that you will get a smb prompt. [root@fedora32b9 ~]# smbclient \\\\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\\share -U administrator Enter administrator's password: Domain=[LIKEWISEADS] OS=[Windows Server 2003 R2 3790 Service Pack 2] Server=[Windows Server 2003 R2 5.2] smb: \> Here, xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (Intentionally IP is changed to xxx...)- is a windows IP address. share - is a folder from which the files will be copied. 3. Execute the command mget to copy the files. NOTE: While executing the mget command, do not mention "*" or a file name, just enter "mget" and hit Enter. Actual results: Getting the Segmentation fault, no files are listed. Expected results: 1. Should not get the "Segmentation fault" on entering "mget" command without mentioning the files. 2. Should list all the contents of the folder as like other distros Eg: OpenSuSE 10.1 32 Bit. Additional info: [root@fedora32b9 ~]# smbclient \\\\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\\share -U administrator Enter administrator's password: Domain=[LIKEWISEADS] OS=[Windows Server 2003 R2 3790 Service Pack 2] Server=[Windows Server 2003 R2 5.2] smb: \> mget Segmentation fault [root@fedora32b9 ~]# smbclient \\\\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx\\share -U administrator Enter administrator's password: Domain=[LIKEWISEADS] OS=[Windows Server 2003 R2 3790 Service Pack 2] Server=[Windows Server 2003 R2 5.2] smb: \> mget * Get file imagetool.zip? ^C [root@fedora32b9 ~]# -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

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DocBook Editor Update
by satya komaragiri 17 Aug '09

17 Aug '09

Hello, I have uploaded a standalone version at http://publictest1.fedoraproject.org/beacon/php/ It would be very nice if you could test it out and give some feedback. I have not completed the testing yet and there are definitely bugs present. In this light I was hoping for a small issue management system that would allow users to post bugs related to this demo in one place. I would not start using it for important docs just yet. Until 17th I hope we can get a proper beta release out with feedback, etc. Some buttons may not work as am plugging in the functionality on the go. Login requires you to enter your FAS account details. Regards, Satya

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Fedora 12 release announcement
by Steven Moix 15 Aug '09

15 Aug '09

Hello all, Sorry not to continue the old thread about the F12 alpha announcement [1], but I'm new to this list, so I couldn't reply ;) As Paul suggested, I made a complete release announcement based on a template we used in the marketing group for F11. The release announcement is located on [2]. If you don't mind, I'd like you to use this "flat" URL instead of [3]...an inclusion in the F12 Alpha release notes also needs to be corrected. The content of the page should be pretty final, but I'd like you to have a look at it to add/remove features...I simply chose the ones I found interesting for *me*. Also please correct my English if you don't mind. 1: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2009-August/msg00100.html 2: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_12_Alpha_Announcement 3: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Announcement_for_F12_Alpha_Release Have a nice day Steven (Fedora Marketing)

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