Re: Fedora-india Digest, Vol 9, Issue 14

[nehal dattani]

i have added my name in the page.........
anybody from ahmedabad/gujarat can contact me on the mentioned mail id

regards,
NehalDattani

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:30 PM, <fedora-india-request(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:

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>    1. Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
>       (susmit shannigrahi)
>    2. Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... (Debarshi Ray)
>    3. Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
>       (susmit shannigrahi)
>    4. Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
>       (Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay)
>    5. Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help... (Mani A)
>    6. Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
>       (susmit shannigrahi)
>    7. Re: F9, FreeMedia and questions around it (susmit shannigrahi)
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>  Message: 1
>  Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 08:22:18 +0530
>  From: "susmit shannigrahi" <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  Subject: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
>  To: fedora-india(a)redhat.com, fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com,
>   "For
>         discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base"
>         <fedora-marketing-list(a)redhat.com&gt;
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>  Hi all,
>
>  * This is for increasing Fedora Media's availability in India.
>
>  * Please note, you need not spend _any_ money.
>
>  * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your
>  busy schedule, please list your name here.[1]
>
>  * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as
>  and when your time permits.
>  All you need is to burn the CD/DVD.
>
>
>  [1]
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts
>
>  Thanks.
>
>
>  --
>  Regards,
>  Susmit.
>
>  =============================================
>  ssh
>  0x86DD170A
>  http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi
>  =============================================
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
>  Message: 2
>  Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 10:10:31 +0530
>  From: "Debarshi Ray" <debarshi.ray(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  Subject: Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
>  To: "susmit shannigrahi" <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  Cc: fedora-india(a)redhat.com
>  Message-ID:
>         <3170f42f0805212140j585a7b69s5f30d919f70d9ea2(a)mail.gmail.com&gt;
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>  > * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your
>  > busy schedule, please list your name here.[1]
>  >
>  > * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as
>  > and when your time permits.
>  > All you need is to burn the CD/DVD.
>
>  If I enlist myself, then how do I get the seed content? In my case, I
>  can easily get it from the WBUT mirror, but is there a procedure that
>  everyone can follow? Maybe the ambassadors could arrange for the seed
>  content to reach the "media burners" from the mirror managers.
>
>  Cheers,
>  Debarshi
>  --
>  "From what we get, we can make a living; what we give, however, makes a
>  life."
>   -- Arthur Ashe
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
>  Message: 3
>  Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 10:32:28 +0530
>  From: "susmit shannigrahi" <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  Subject: Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
>  To: debarshi.ray(a)gmail.com
>  Cc: fedora-india(a)redhat.com
>  Message-ID:
>         <ffadd1240805212202m951f7edi981b1bc8f524a2c(a)mail.gmail.com&gt;
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>  On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:10 AM, Debarshi Ray <debarshi.ray(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  wrote:
>  >> * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your
>  >> busy schedule, please list your name here.[1]
>  >>
>  >> * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as
>  >> and when your time permits.
>  >> All you need is to burn the CD/DVD.
>  >
>  > If I enlist myself, then how do I get the seed content? In my case, I
>  > can easily get it from the WBUT mirror, but is there a procedure that
>  > everyone can follow?
>
>  No.
>
>  > Maybe the ambassadors could arrange for the seed
>  > content to reach the "media burners" from the mirror managers.
>
>  Sure. Why not?
>
>
>  --
>  Regards,
>  Susmit.
>
>  =============================================
>  ssh
>  0x86DD170A
>  http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi
>  =============================================
>
>
>
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>  Message: 4
>  Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 15:08:08 +0530
>  From: Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay <foss.mailinglists(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  Subject: Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
>  To: fedora-india(a)redhat.com
>  Message-ID: <48353F00.5030606(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
>  Debarshi Ray wrote:
>
>  > If I enlist myself, then how do I get the seed content? In my case, I
>  > can easily get it from the WBUT mirror, but is there a procedure that
>  > everyone can follow? Maybe the ambassadors could arrange for the seed
>  > content to reach the "media burners" from the mirror managers.
>
>  There isn't. But this was part of the question set that I had asked in a
>  separate mail :
>  https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-india/2008-May/msg00025.html
>
>
>
>
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>  Message: 5
>  Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 19:39:44 +0530
>  From: "Mani A" <a.mani.cms(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  Subject: Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
>  To: fedora-india(a)redhat.com
>  Message-ID:
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>  On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:22 AM, susmit shannigrahi
>  <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  > Hi all,
>  >
>  > * This is for increasing Fedora Media's availability in India.
>  >
>  > * Please note, you need not spend _any_ money.
>  >
>  > * If you have a DVD writer and can donate a few minutes from your
>  > busy schedule, please list your name here.[1]
>  >
>  > * When users contact you, ask them to meet you with a blank CD/DVD as
>  > and when your time permits.
>  > All you need is to burn the CD/DVD.
>  >
>  >
>  > [1]
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/India/LocalContacts
>  >
>
>  Could not edit that immutable page!
>  My user name is ManiA
>
>  Add  "A. Mani (24644102) : Only 64-bit DVD" in Kolkata
>
>
>  Best
>
>  A. Mani
>
>
>  --
>  A. Mani
>  Member, Cal. Math. Soc
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
>  Message: 6
>  Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:04:13 +0530
>  From: "susmit shannigrahi" <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  Subject: Re: Only a DVD writer is required!!! Please help...
>  To: "Mani A" <a.mani.cms(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  Cc: fedora-india(a)redhat.com
>  Message-ID:
>         <ffadd1240805220734y591e241cwde8d28647c2a773d(a)mail.gmail.com&gt;
>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>  > Could not edit that immutable page!
>  > My user name is ManiA
>  >
>  > Add  "A. Mani (24644102) : Only 64-bit DVD" in Kolkata
>
>  Thanks for volunteering.
>  Are not you a member of fedora community?
>  I mean don't you have an account with fedora accounts system?
>  If yes, please log in and edit the page. If not, how about being a member?
>  I can send you the invitation and the required links.
>
>  Thanks.
>
>  --
>  Regards,
>  Susmit.
>
>  =============================================
>  ssh
>  0x86DD170A
>  http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi
>  =============================================
>
>
>
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>
>  Message: 7
>  Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 20:33:00 +0530
>  From: "susmit shannigrahi" <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  Subject: Re: F9, FreeMedia and questions around it
>  To: "Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay" <foss.mailinglists(a)gmail.com&gt;
>  Cc: fedora-india(a)redhat.com
>  Message-ID:
>         <ffadd1240805220803l13036f99kf886d5fac04c07a8(a)mail.gmail.com&gt;
>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>  > I had a single question around F9 and FreeMedia and the latter
>  specifically.
>  > What is a more pressing problem -
>  >
>
>  Both are doable easily.
>
>  > [1] ensuring that every request gets a media
>
>  This can be done with a much reasonable cost by creating hierarchical
>  point of contacts.
>  Say we produce 5000 DVD for a release.
>  Say Pune gets 500 for the whole release, so may be that shipped to you,
>  and there are 10 Ambassadors. So may you ask them to pick up required
>  amount based on demand and other parameters.
>
>
>
>  > [2] getting the initial media set to those who are participating in the
>  > FreeMedia program so as to enable them to reach out to the requests
>
>  Easy, the media is available at least 4-5 days before release. So
>  produce them in small quantity and ship them to the contributors,
>  using speed post or couriour. So they will receive before release and
>  can use them as a master copy. That would require max 50 INR for each
>  shipment (both i386 and x86_64 included).
>
>
>
>  >
>  > If, [1] is the need of the day, we would try to get a substantial number
>  of
>  > LiveMedia created and shipped to a select few folks based on the trends
>  of
>  > FreeMedia requests. Besides getting them to MirrorManagers in India.
>
>  Let both [1] & [2] continue.
>  We accept a fixed number of free requests, say 50 each month for if
>  someone really need them.
>
>  Given the option to choose from [1] & [2] I shall choose [2], because,
>  when someone afford a computer, he/she can afford one or two DVD
>  without any problem.
>
>  But keeping [1] alive is recommended because if someone is new to
>  fedora and  _suspicious_ about how good is it, but wants to try it
>  out, he/she generally would be more interested in a FreeMedia rather
>  than spending for it.
>
>
>  > If, [2] is seem to be the bottleneck, then it would be an easier task to
>  >  generate a Everything (x86 and x86_64) and a LiveMedia set created and
>  sent
>  > to folks who would agree to be contact points across regions.
>
>  It is _not_ a bottleneck. As my professors say , a distributed system
>  can not be bottlenecked. :)
>
>  > The constraints in the scenario are:
>  >
>  > i] there is only a finite number of LiveMedia that can be created
>  > ii] postage and courier charges are the ones where most money is spent
>
>  This can be reduced by bulk posting, as I said for example, sending
>  all the quota of Pune to you, and get that distributed among local
>  cantacts/Ambassadors.
>
>  > iii] the quantity of LiveMedia done as per [1] has to be consumed before
>  F10
>  > is out
>  >
>  > So, what do I push to get done ?
>
>  According to me, a reasonable number, (fixed after discussion, may be
>  anything between 2000-5000) of media produced for each release.
>
>
>
>
>  --
>  Regards,
>  Susmit.
>
>  =============================================
>  ssh
>  0x86DD170A
>  http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SusmitShannigrahi
>  =============================================
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