I was thinking about this a couple of days before.
Somewhere, I heard someone saying, you need to compile code to get the musics playing. Now, I corrected them and pointed out that what they need to do in order to get it playing.
Then this idea came to my mind, what if we generate the service packs of say gstreamer-plugins*, vlc and the other necessary but restricted software and host it outside fedora's infrastructure? We can give these people a single link and say for playing all the audio/video stuff, go to this link, download this servicepack, come home and install it.
A few will say, we have to create service packs for each updates pushed. But really we can do with the servicepack made with base release only. This is because, he who does not have enough bw at home, in all probability, will not update his system. So chances are high that he will still run the base installation.
Should we talk with rpmfusion people?
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 5:12 PM, susmit shannigrahi thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com wrote:
Then this idea came to my mind, what if we generate the service packs of say gstreamer-plugins*, vlc and the other necessary but restricted software and host it outside fedora's infrastructure? We can give these people a single link and say for playing all the audio/video stuff, go to this link, download this servicepack, come home and install it.
Isn't http://omega.dgplug.org/ supposed to be exactly for that?
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On 02/28/2010 10:16 PM, Aanjhan R wrote:
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 5:12 PM, susmit shannigrahi thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com wrote:
Then this idea came to my mind, what if we generate the service packs of say gstreamer-plugins*, vlc and the other necessary but restricted software and host it outside fedora's infrastructure? We can give these people a single link and say for playing all the audio/video stuff, go to this link, download this servicepack, come home and install it.
Isn't http://omega.dgplug.org/ supposed to be exactly for that?
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@Aanjhan Most people dont know about it. Omega is a spin, and most people only get the Fedora LiveCD or DVD for install (Freemedia, Friends or Vendors)
@Susmit Seems like a good idea to me, so a +1 from my side.
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On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Hiemanshu Sharma hiemanshu@gmail.com wrote:
@Aanjhan Most people dont know about it. Omega is a spin, and most people only get the Fedora LiveCD or DVD for install (Freemedia, Friends or Vendors)
@Susmit Seems like a good idea to me, so a +1 from my side.
So how do you think most people will know about this gstreamer-plugins* that is going to be OUTSIDE the fedora infrastructure which still will not come alongside the Fedora LiveCD or DVD. Its the same problem we are tackling here a.k.a "Lack of awareness".
Regards, Aanjhan
So how do you think most people will know about this gstreamer-plugins* that is going to be OUTSIDE the fedora infrastructure which still will not come alongside the Fedora LiveCD or DVD. Its the same problem we are tackling here a.k.a "Lack of awareness".
How do they know about rpmfusion stuff now? The same way.
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 5:55 PM, susmit shannigrahi thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com wrote:
How do they know about rpmfusion stuff now? The same way.
May be I got your idea all wrong. But doesn't
"yum install gstreamer-plugins-bad gstreamer-plugins-ugly" work with rpmfusion repository enabled?
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May be I got your idea all wrong. But doesn't
"yum install gstreamer-plugins-bad gstreamer-plugins-ugly" work with rpmfusion repository enabled?
Not with the ones who have Broadband with 250MB quota or does not have a proper connection. :)
On 28-Feb-10 10:33 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote:
May be I got your idea all wrong. But doesn't
"yum install gstreamer-plugins-bad gstreamer-plugins-ugly" work with rpmfusion repository enabled?
Not with the ones who have Broadband with 250MB quota or does not have a proper connection. :)
The problem is not if some one can download at home / elsewhere.
People ridicule the very thought that MP3 support has to be enabled with an effort and is not available by default.
The ways to enable it very well available on http://fedorasolved.org/Members/jpmahowald/non-free-plugins-for-gstreamer and works cleanly.
A better approach should be to provide a format conversion software as part of the default install DVD/CD or LiveCD which pops up on its own and asks for format conversion to OGG...etc. and converts the format and plays the music etc.
What do you say ?
with Regards, ASHWIN
On 01-Mar-2010, at 8:08, Ashwin ashwin.lists@gmail.com wrote:
On 28-Feb-10 10:33 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote:
May be I got your idea all wrong. But doesn't
"yum install gstreamer-plugins-bad gstreamer-plugins-ugly" work with rpmfusion repository enabled?
Not with the ones who have Broadband with 250MB quota or does not have a proper connection. :)
The problem is not if some one can download at home / elsewhere.
People ridicule the very thought that MP3 support has to be enabled with an effort and is not available by default.
The ways to enable it very well available on http://fedorasolved.org/Members/jpmahowald/non-free-plugins-for-gstreamer and works cleanly.
A better approach should be to provide a format conversion software as part of the default install DVD/CD or LiveCD which pops up on its own and asks for format conversion to OGG...etc. and converts the format and plays the music etc.
Why do u assume that someone would want to convert their 'mp3' collection to ogg ?
What do you say ?
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On 03/01/2010 08:08 AM, Ashwin wrote:
A better approach should be to provide a format conversion software as part of the default install DVD/CD or LiveCD which pops up on its own and asks for format conversion to OGG...etc. and converts the format and plays the music etc.
What do you say ?
Already answered at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Software_Patents#Can.27t_you_convert_a_patent_...
Rahul
On 02/28/2010 09:42 PM, susmit shannigrahi wrote:
A few will say, we have to create service packs for each updates pushed. But really we can do with the servicepack made with base release only. This is because, he who does not have enough bw at home, in all probability, will not update his system. So chances are high that he will still run the base installation.
Should we talk with rpmfusion people
If you are volunteering to do it go ahead and discuss with them about it and it might be scriptable
Rahul
On 28 February 2010 21:42, susmit shannigrahi thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com wrote:
I was thinking about this a couple of days before.
Then this idea came to my mind, what if we generate the service packs of say gstreamer-plugins*, vlc and the other necessary but restricted software and host it outside fedora's infrastructure?
I think its a good idea. I have felt the same requirement often when I have been involved in training people on FOSS. This infrastructure should exist so people can avail of it. It will not take much space on the rpmfusion side. It involves little effort to set this up I think, and hence it should exist. I am not a Fedora user. I use Ubuntu, but for this purpose I do not think that matters.
On 02/28/2010 10:19 PM, Hiemanshu Sharma wrote:
@Aanjhan Most people dont know about it. Omega is a spin
Omega is a Fedora Remix
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Remix#Are_Remixes_and_Spins_different.3F
Rahul
My bad. Just wanted to make a point here though.
On 1 March 2010 10:33, Rahul Sundaram metherid@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/28/2010 10:19 PM, Hiemanshu Sharma wrote:
@Aanjhan Most people dont know about it. Omega is a spin
Omega is a Fedora Remix
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Remix#Are_Remixes_and_Spins_different.3F
Rahul
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On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 9:42 PM, susmit shannigrahi thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com wrote:
Then this idea came to my mind, what if we generate the service packs of say gstreamer-plugins*, vlc and the other necessary but restricted software and host it outside fedora's infrastructure? We can give these people a single link and say for playing all the audio/video stuff, go to this link, download this servicepack, come home and install it.
Can you write up a couple of servicepacks that need to be created ? That is, the description of them and the content. And, once they are created we could check the size and, then ask around for volunteers to host it.
Then this idea came to my mind, what if we generate the service packs of say gstreamer-plugins*, vlc and the other necessary but restricted software and host it outside fedora's infrastructure? We can give these people a single link and say for playing all the audio/video stuff, go to this link, download this servicepack, come home and install it.
Can you write up a couple of servicepacks that need to be created ?
gstreamer-plugins-bad gstreamer-plugins-bad-extras gstreamer-plugins-ugly vlc
There are others, but we can continue with these for a start. The only problem that I can see is gstreamer-plugins-good conflicts with gstreamer-plugins-bad. Though bugzilla shows it has been fixed, I saw this problem in F11 & F12.
And, once they are created we could check the size and, then ask around for volunteers to host it.
They will be small. I am not sure about the exact size though.
Still no taker? Can we take it fudcon agenda?
I can take a look over the weekend. No gurantee though. Still in bed recovering from illness.
- Hiemanshu
On 26 March 2010 16:51, susmit shannigrahi thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com wrote:
Still no taker? Can we take it fudcon agenda?
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On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 18:42 +0530, Hiemanshu Sharma wrote:
I can take a look over the weekend. No gurantee though. Still in bed recovering from illness.
- Hiemanshu
On 26 March 2010 16:51, susmit shannigrahi thinklinux.ssh@gmail.com wrote: Still no taker? Can we take it fudcon agenda?
it can be added to the FUDCon agenda too.
- Make service packs of commonly needed packages
Does that sound good enough ?
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