Yamaha Motif XS, the remote control feature and Rosegarden

[David Sommerseth]

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Hi!

Have anyone of you tried make the remote control feature found in the
Yamaha Motif XS synths work in Rosegarden?  It works pretty nicely in
Cubase, but I'm trying to avoid booting up Windows as much as possible
when I want to play and have fun :)

I'm also interested in trying out different ideas on how to make this
work.  My google searches have not led me closer to some clues yet.

I would be willing to help getting Rosegarden to understand one of the
remote control profiles the Motif XS provides.  It supports Cubase,
Sonar, Digital Performer and Logic according to the Owners Manual [1]
(page 52)


kind regards,

David Sommerseth


[1]
<http://www.yamahasynth.com/downloads/manuals/synthesizers/motif_xs/englis...
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[Niels Mayer]

On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 2:33 AM, David Sommerseth <davids(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
>  Have anyone of you tried make the remote control feature found in the
>  Yamaha Motif XS synths work in Rosegarden? 

Do XG editors work on Motif XS synths?? I thought Motif XS was a superset of
XG.

If so, see
http://old.nabble.com/qxgedit-0.1.0-2.rncbc.suse112.x86_64.rpm-on-Fedora1...

<http://old.nabble.com/qxgedit-0.1.0-2.rncbc.suse112.x86_64.rpm-on-Fedora1...,
here's some notes I took on the subject last night... I'm still trying to
figure out what synths qxgedit can control. Can it control Motif's? the
MU-100? MU-90XG? How about the QY series? MU-15?

Yamaha XG


>  re: qxgedit-0.1.0-2.rncbc.suse112.x86_64 
which seems to be a linux version of

http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Multimedia_and_Graphics/MIDI_Players_a...


>  XG300 2.0 
Analogue-style editor for Yamaha DB50XG, SW60XG and MU10. Uses the 'hidden'
>  Yamaha QS300 mode to give youtwice the power of the basic XG voice.
>  2xOscillators,2xLFO's, 6xEnvelope Generators per voice. Saves andloads QS300
>  presets, effects banks and sequences. Lookslike a Prophet V synth. Includes
>  Arpeggiators andAnalogue Step Sequencers. Saves and loads MIDI and SYXfiles.
>  Real wood finish and custom knobs 

>  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_XG 
The DB50XG and SW60XG are discontinued, but the SW1000XG (also discontinued)
>  has been popular in the professional music industry, and many of
> Yamaha's
>  amateur and professional keyboards implement either XG or a subset, known as
>  "XGlite". 
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may98/articles/audiotrix.html

• Mediatrix cleverly integrates a DB60XG card (effectively a DB50XG with
>  added analogue input), with its own full-duplex recording circuitry,
> into
>  the Audiotrix card. Users of the 3DXG can thus have those Yamaha sounds from
>  day one 
• I doubt if I need to make any comment on the XG MIDI sounds -- I've been
>  using these on my DB50XG for two years now, and have yet to hear a
> soundcard
>  chipset that sounds better. 
• It's a clever idea to incorporate the Yamaha DB60XG into the design of the
>  3DXG, and this gives very good on-board synth sounds, as well as an
>  excellent three-tier effects system. The overall sound quality is good, and
>  in line with the deluxe consumer description that I used at the start of
>  this review. If you want a soundcard with great synth sounds and excellent
>  effects, and want to use it for occasional games, this would be a good but
>  slightly expensive choice. If you want a card primarily for music, you may
>  find yourself disabling many of the same features that endear it to games
>  players -- the FM synth, joystick port, and so on, which leaves you with an
>  XG synth and stereo WAV recording and playback through the XG effects. This,
>  in essence, is what the forthcoming Yamaha SW1000XG will do (albeit with
>  more effects and WAV channels, plus higher sound quality, but at a
>  significantly higher price). 
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/257013-28-sw1000xg-windows-compatibility

• Get your SW1000XG out of the dust pile or out of the loft becuase the darn
>  thing works under windows 7. 

Niels
http://nielsmayer.com

[David Sommerseth]

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On 23/04/10 17:53, Niels Mayer wrote:
>  On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 2:33 AM, David Sommerseth
> <davids(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote:
> >
> > Have anyone of you tried make the remote control feature found in the
> > Yamaha Motif XS synths work in Rosegarden?
>  
>  
>  Do XG editors work on Motif XS synths?? I thought Motif XS was a superset of
>  XG. 
I'll sure give this a shot ... even though, this seems to be the
"opposite" direction of what I was hoping for :)  I'm not sure how Motif
XS and XG are related.  I thought XG was related to the newer and
improved GM standard (which the XS should support somehow, as far as I
remember)

The Motif series are hardware synth/workstations, and the versions with
physical keys also got an included sampler, so it's not a pure "sound
card", in that regards.  Motif ES came after the old Motif, and the
Motif XS came after Motif ES again.  And the corresponding S90ES is
based on the Motif ES tone generator, while the newer S90XS is based
upon Motif XS ... but the "cool" thing, the Motif XS is running some
kind of a Linux (MontaVista based, AFAIK) - but I've not been able to
jail it :-P

I've looked through some of your links about the different XG related
products, and most of them seem to be "computer boards" and not so much
standalone devices, like the Motif XS.

>  If so, see
>
> http://old.nabble.com/qxgedit-0.1.0-2.rncbc.suse112.x86_64.rpm-on-Fedora1...
>  
>
> <http://old.nabble.com/qxgedit-0.1.0-2.rncbc.suse112.x86_64.rpm-on-Fedora1...,
>  here's some notes I took on the subject last night... I'm still trying to
>  figure out what synths qxgedit can control. Can it control Motif's? the
>  MU-100? MU-90XG? How about the QY series? MU-15?
>  
>  Yamaha XG
>  
>  
> > re: qxgedit-0.1.0-2.rncbc.suse112.x86_64
>  
>  which seems to be a linux version of
>  
>
> http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Multimedia_and_Graphics/MIDI_Players_a...
I'll give qxgedit i whirl, and I'll let you know how it goes.


David S.
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